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VTArlock
United States1763 Posts
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IMRandom
Korea (South)34 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:19 Art_of_Kill wrote: and the joke is, that both mvp and nestea got beaten by dimaga its funny so many people live in their fantasy broodwar world, this is sc2 and here the absolut top none koreans can beat the top koreans, even if their chances are small to win they still can Doesn't mean Dimaga > MVP/Nestea.  SC2 and bw aren't games u can win 100% just because ur good. One victory isn't enough to judge foreign/korean scene. Give it some time and we'll see how things pan out. | ||
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Spitmode
Germany1510 Posts
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weaknurse
Australia320 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:25 Spitmode wrote: why are neitiher mlg or iem listed in the upcoming events tab on the front page of teamliquid?! It is weird how the major events are usually only listed until a few hours before but all the weekly cups or whatever are up there days in advance. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:19 Art_of_Kill wrote: and the joke is, that both mvp and nestea got beaten by dimaga its funny so many people live in their fantasy broodwar world, this is sc2 and here the absolut top none koreans can beat the top koreans, even if their chances are small to win they still can They can win, at any given Sunday yes, but will they be able to do it consistently in a tournament environment? Right now, the statistics say no; that was the point the article was making. Don't turn it into a BW bashing thing, that has no place in an SC2 news article. Also, Pokebunny so QT :3 but if you want to be a total baller you gotta pull a Rekrul once you're deciding between gaming and college. | ||
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Spitmode
Germany1510 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:27 weaknurse wrote: It is weird how the major events are usually only listed until a few hours before but all the weekly cups or whatever are up there days in advance. IPL3 day4 wasnt even listed at all until it started. TL really needs to step it up... when does IEM start? in how many hours? | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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t1mid
United States143 Posts
While it's nice to win 75% of the local LANs including the ones I couldn't go to, the money is just an added benefit - it's a great community here. What?? | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:21 FireS wrote: isnt it Carnac not Carmac ? rofl Carnac and Carmac are different persons. On October 13 2011 17:30 Spitmode wrote: IPL3 day4 wasnt even listed at all until it started. TL really needs to step it up... when does IEM start? in how many hours? You know guys, even _YOU_ can keep the calendar updated and add tournaments. It's not just TL crew's job. | ||
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Vansetsu
United States1454 Posts
Seriously, I cry when I watch that guy play knowing he can't put time into it. | ||
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weaknurse
Australia320 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:36 Grettin wrote: Carnac and Carmac are different persons. You know guys, even _YOU_ can keep the calendar updated and add tournaments. It's not just TL crew's job. I have no affiliation with IEM. | ||
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BigKahunaBurger
Australia334 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:35 m0ck wrote: But two players on the top ten list were at IPL: Ryung and MMA. Which makes this article just plain wrong. The sense of inferiority, and the need for it to stay that way, is strong in the ex-bw followers.. No, it doesn't make it plain wrong at all. Both Ryung and MMA were at IPL3 yes. And they were beaten by another Korean. This is the problem that many people had with Stephano's win, that people claim he crushed a tournament with Top 10 Koreans. That may be, but he certainly wasn't on their side of the bracket. | ||
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tOTOM
3 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:14 Grettin wrote: "Foreigners* still haven't won a tournament against top class Korean professionals." I suppose MC, MMA, Alive, Ryung are not top class Korean professional but I am wondering what is code S, the top Korean professional no ? Probably a 2 times champion MC and a 2 times finalist MMA (and probably 3 times with the gsl october) are just garbage... This is the first win of a "foreigners" against good korean players, be proud of it ! Top class korean player play at IPL, MLG and GSL only, top european players don't play at this kind of event (or in the open bracket and with a long way to see the light...). Apart for MVP and Nestea, I don't think top european players as Stephano, Nerchio, Dimaga or Mana, are not as good as the korean. But I hope a tournament will show it | ||
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Spitmode
Germany1510 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:53 BigKahunaBurger wrote: No, it doesn't make it plain wrong at all. Both Ryung and MMA were at IPL3 yes. And they were beaten by another Korean. This is the problem that many people had with Stephano's win, that people claim he crushed a tournament with Top 10 Koreans. That may be, but he certainly wasn't on their side of the bracket. It seems what you want is a league, not a bracket system.. MMA lost to White-Ra, he dropped a map against Sheth, he lost 3-0 to the guy Stephano destroyed 4-0. There's a reason MMA didn't meet Stephano: it's that he wasn't good enough. | ||
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Nunger
Australia76 Posts
I assume he means that the ones he couldn't attend were part of the 25% he lost in that statistic, giving him a greater than 75% win rate at the LANs that he attended. | ||
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Syth
36 Posts
On October 13 2011 17:54 Spitmode wrote: so when will it start? in european time I'd like to know this too | ||
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BigLighthouse
United Kingdom424 Posts
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MoooN1
Germany128 Posts
if i remember correctly stephanio did beat mma in the qualifier | ||
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
Foreigners* still haven't won a tournament against top class Korean professionals. The best foreigners have been able to beat Koreans for quite a while; it's just that the very best Koreans form a nigh impenetrable wall in front of the medal podium. The guys at Guangzhou and Atlantic City were pretty good, but they weren't exactly top ten players. (Though if Stephano had run into MMA on his path, then that would have been quite interesting...) So MMA was defeated by a Korean player that later got defeated by Stephano... For me that makes him the winner of an tournament with one of the best Korean player around. Also Alive, Ryung, Puma... Even if he didn't face all of this players, there is a reason for this. Other players were simply better on that given day and he won vs all those better players. Other than that great article. | ||
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