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[GSTL] Foreigners United

Text byHeyoka
Graphics byHawaiianPig
August 11th, 2011 05:20 GMT

WEEK 6

Another Week for Foreigners

First of Many?

What We Do
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Week 6

F.United

Fantasy Report

Week 7
There are things in life we can be sure will march on, regardless of personal circumstances. Death and taxes are popular choices, but we have a different bend here at TL. Notably we think of Starcraft 2's premier team league. After a week break for MLG we returned for another set of matches - only two this time thanks to the Blizzard EU Invitational messing up NaNiwa and Thorzain's schedule.

This coming week is a time of rotation, a week of new beginnings. Last time we talked it was the end of FXO as we knew them, and the beginning of fOu's transformation into FXO Korea. This time we have a brand new team, F.United. Those following current events know Tuesday's Code A games had as many Swedes as Koreans, and two of them, TSL3 finalists NaNiwa and Thorzain, are joining us for the GSTL. The GSTL is on the move, and a new challenger has emerged. Six new members have entered the league, aiming to prove they have what it takes and take on the big boys mano-a-mano. Or at least mouse to mouse.

Their trial begins now.

Oh also, StarTale changed their logo. This is a big deal, or something. I don't know.

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You can find more info on Liquipedia!


Shaping up nicely.


We are here to discuss the details of those games, and talk about what may happen in the future. Excited? We hope so.

We are.

Week 6

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Prime vs SlayerS
by bobq
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(T)MarineKing < Dual Sight > (T)Taeja [image loading] 2.5/5 (but only if you turn it off 10 minutes in)
(P)HongUn < Tal’Darim Altar LE > (T)Taeja [image loading] 1.5/5
(P)HongUn < Xel’Naga Fortress > (T)BoxeR [image loading] 1.5/5
(P)HongUn < Metalopolis 1.1 > (T)GanZi [image loading] 4/5
(P)HongUn < Crevasse > (T)Ryung [image loading] 2/5
(Z)Terious < Bel’Shir Beach 1.1 > (T)Ryung [image loading] 3.5/5

Prime 4 > 2 SlayerS


In desperate search of their first team league win, Prime led off with the mighty MarineKing against Slayers’ relatively unknown Taeja. While such apparent mismatches often lead to cheese, this game quickly turned into a battle of ideologies, with Taeja trotting out the new Slayers hellion-heavy mech build against MarineKing’s tried-and-true bio. Unfortunately for MarineKing, the nouveau style won out, with tank-hellion-raven winning a decisive battle over marine-marauder-medivac in the middle of the map around the 10 minute mark. It took Taeja another 15 minutes, 10 or so OCs, and a few dozen manner mules to win, though, which was amusing for about 3 minutes and boring for about 12.

Time for a writer's pop quiz! TvP on Tal’Darim; you’re the P. You see your opponent going for early marauders. Do you: A) take an expansion or B) go for a quick stargate?
Neither! You C) throw down a 4-gate, hope they don’t scout it, get lucky, and win! And that’s the story of how HongUn beat Taeja.

Figuring HongUn couldn't stand up to the might of the emperor, Slayers sent out Boxer, who went with an aggressive early expansion. HongUn didn’t punish him for it immediately, instead expanding himself and skipping straight past 4 gates into a standard 6-gate. Then he just went over and crushed Boxer. This wasn't just a "he pushed and won" kind of thing, this was a timing push complete with brilliant forcefields, impenetrable walls separating his forces from the terran's. It was more in the vein of "he pushed and annihilated all in his path; his stalkers drank the blood of the marines while his sentries reveled in the lamentations of the SCVs".

When Slayers responded to domination by sending out yet another terran in the form of Ganzi, HongUn must have seriously considered an 8-gate so he could keep with his trend. Realizing that was just silly, he went with a voidray rush instead. HongUn’s first void ray hit Ganzi’s base just as Ganzi’s first banshee was headed out, with Ganzi confident in the ability of his marines to hold off the rush. Unfortunately for him, the combination of three void rays, warped-in zealots, and botched repair micro left Ganzi with too few marines to hold his own base, and it turns out three void rays tear down buildings a lot faster than two banshees.

Evidently the Slayers' motto is “all terran, all the time”, so they sent out Ryung to try to stop HongUn’s reign of terror. His ghost opening proved pretty solid against HongUn’s mass phoenix play; all it took was one key EMP to to render the protoss harass totally toothless. With his large phoenix investment almost totally nullified, HongUn moved into a kind of weird all-chargelot-into-templar build, stockpiling a cool 1600 gas while waiting for his archives to finish. Ryung somehow let that happen without launching any kind of meaningful attack, letting HongUn creep back into the game before finally charging into battle with his bio. That climactic final battle should have been a lot closer than it was, but HongUn dropped a devastating storm onto his own zealots and eliminated any chance he had of a comeback.

Still ahead 3-2, Prime took the opportunity to show off the contrast between their multi-racial approach and the terran hegemony of Slayers by sending out Terius. In a game that was surprisingly boring for how interesting Terius’ build was, there was essentially no combat at all until the fifteen minute mark, when Terius’ first nydus poured lings, infestors and ultras straight into Ryung’s main. This gave Terius a supply lead that he hung on to all game, leveraging his superior economy to choke Ryung out of the game in spite of letting a 2-marine drop take out his greater spire. Terius’ lack of brood lords and sometimes questionable ultralisk decision making made the game appear closer than it was, but all you had to do was look at the top right to check his constant 50 supply lead to remember he had already basically won.


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Incredible Miracle vs StarTale
by confusedcrib
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(T)MVP < Crevasse > (T)Bomber
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4/5
(T)IMHappy < Xel'Naga Caverns > (T)Bomber
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4/5
(Z)LosirA < Crossfire SE > (T)Bomber
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2/5
(P)Younghwa < Tal'Darim Altar LE > (T)Bomber
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1/5
(P)Younghwa < Terminus SE > (Z)Curious
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1.5/5

Incredible Miracle 1 < 4 StarTale


In a team league match between two of the best teams in the business of Starcraft 2, the night starts off with a TvT between the two beasts of the matchup: MVP and Bomber. Bomber hit an early game marine timing that nearly took out MVP out of the game, but MVP used some great positioning play with his tanks to even things out. MVP eventually left an opening in his positioning that Bomber exploited to take the game while MVP was stuck in a useless area of the map.

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Put Your Ice Cream up for a GG!

Interestingly, IM sent out Happy, another (less accomplished) terran to try and take out Bomber. Bomber put himself in a great position early on with huge harassment damage and Happy managed to nearly come back with some great tank positioning. Despite Happy's turtled position, Bomber pulled a bunch of SCVs with his marauder tank composition and was able to bust Happy's tanks to take the game.

IM decided that Losira was the answer to Bomber and sent him out next. Losira played quite well despite losing his hatchery to a hidden two barracks opening from Bomber. Bomber followed up with a hidden third that Losira scouted far too late, which allowed Bomber to slow push for the win. And there's a hunter seeker missile involved.

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Hunter Seeker Missile's are Cool

IM continued their reluctance of sending out Nestea in the team league by instead sending out YoungHwa. After YoungHwa and Bomber execute their openings, neither player engages until twenty minutes later. Bomber has too many vikings and doesn't micro well enough to survive YoungHwa's deadly colossus composition.

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Let's See Whose Ball is Bigger?

Startale sends out Curious to try and take out YoungHwa. YoungHwa disastrously loses his probe, critically delaying his void ray + warp gate rush. Once Curious holds the rush, YoungHwa has no economy to recover and Curious takes the game.

With all said and done, the match started off on a high note but once Losira lost to a two barracks opening, the games went downhill.


There you have it. A match that began slow and became good, and one that started well and tapered off. Now for the most depressing part of this league: the fantasy system. Where HawaiianPig is back to destroying me.

And it's only going to get worse as my anti kicks in.

Fantasy Report
by bobq


Welcome class, we’re back after a week with no GSTL. That means everyone had plenty of time to review the remaining schedule and make all the right trades, right? We made our brilliant moves and set ourselves up for some serious fantasy domination. We certainly didn’t do stupid things like trade StarTale for IM. That would have been stupid, especially for someone who writes about this stuff every week. *grumble grumble*

In case you can’t guess, StarTale thoroughly clobbered IM, with Bomber pumping out a quick three wins and 7 points before being sniped by Younghwa. Thanks to the his streak-break-bonus, Younghwa owners come away with 4 points, but that’s it as Curious quickly sniped him for 4 points of his own and a 4-1 win for Startale. And those of us who traded Startale for IM bag a 7 point net loss as IM gets -1 and Startale gets 6. In my defense, if I’d known about Startale’s new logo beforehand, there’s no way in hell I would have traded them.

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Who is my little happy star?


At least I can rejoice in the fact that almost 600 people got hammered for 7 anti-team points by HongUn’s surprising 3-kill in Slayers-Prime. MarineKing owners also got the shaft, with him falling to Taeja; he cost an awful lot for someone who has only managed 1 point and 0 wins over the course of three matches. Prime took their 4 points and skipped all the way home, while the 3407 people who picked Slayers brought home a goose egg. Which, to be fair, is still better than IM did. Stupid IM.

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Holy crap! The leader board! It’s...changed! Mighty mrbamboo has fallen from his lofty perch, all the way to #2, thanks to another lackluster week. Bomber’s strong week pushed godemperor up to the top spot, which with a name like that he must clearly think he deserves. The Cinderella story of the week comes to us from oPlaiD, whom the winds of fate have brought into fourth place in spite of him not having made a single trade all season. He also didn’t even luck into an all-kill. I’m secretly hoping he manages to win, so we all look really silly for actually trying.


At least we have something new to look forward to.

F.United Taking a Stand
by Heyoka and SirJolt


This summer has been something of a struggle for the so-called “white dudes” of Starcraft 2. For many, there will be little surprise in the fact that the Koreans seem to have it all figured out. With legitimate team houses in place for nearly a year, the hard work and discipline that have come to be associated with Korean progamers are paying dividends.

In an age when MLG is inviting Koreans to be the cats-among-pigeons at major events, and in which sponsors will fly players of Nada and MC’s calibre to Dreamhacks and Home Story Cups, our understanding of “the Circuit” of has been stretched far beyond its once largely Korean-only boundaries.

We no longer live in a world in which “Korean” and “International” are necessarily separate identities.

We no longer live in a world in which MLG is a non-GSL event.

We no longer live in a world in which there will be a Dreamhack without Asian competitors.

While all of this is laudable, it serves to highlight one key fact; non-Koreans are losing ground. It’s no coincidence that the top six players from MLG Anaheim sport Korean flags. It’s no coincidence that they were followed by two players who are drinking the Kool-Aid, or eating the Kimchi, so to speak.

It’s a harsh world out there and it’s only getting tougher to pick up a major win. F.United represents the first step towards amelioration. As with FXOpen before them, United is demonstrating its willingness to fling its foreign progamers boys into the furnace of Korean competitive play. Those players that survive, will emerge tempered by the experience. Harder, better, stronger. Weaponized.

The road will be long and it will be barren, and above all it will be hard. Theirs will be thankless toil. In last night’s Code A matches, only Thorzain was able to steal a game.

David Foster Wallace once noted that, when it comes to sports, the literature is rife with war metaphor. Seldom does anyone take the time to highlight the pure, undiluted beauty of competition, the simple elegance displayed only by those at the highest levels of excellence. F.United aims to give us the chance to do just that.

If we are to step away from the war metaphors for a moment, F.United offers the chance to see something different. For once, foreigners are not a force invading the hostile territory of Korea. Rather, F.United represents a synthesis, a branch of a rare and beautiful plant grafted onto a hardier tree. In watching that tree grow and develop, augmented by the strange beauty of its alien limb, we might have the satisfaction of seeing the first of something new.

We begin from that clipping, with the raw potential to grow into something noble, something great. We have the opportunity to watch it from its infancy, to see the transformation from disparate, particularised identities to teammates. We will bear witness to skilled, dedicated players nurturing that raw talent. Each loss will be a day in the sunshine, every victory a sudden cloudburst, with faces turned skyward to catch the drops.

In an ideal world, it all leads to the gradual blossoming of something unique, something truly beautiful – something that is in Korea, but not necessarily of Korea.

We will see Thorzain and NaNiwa, once bitterest of rivals, forced to rely on one another. One-time-nemeses locked together, a symbiosis that could benefit both.

We will see Moon and Lyn, still playing War3 to qualify for WCG, showing that they can take on two games at once.

And we will see F.United showing us that the impossible is only ever just inches out of reach. The funny thing about being just inches out of reach is that, if you’re willing to take a chance, to really risk it all, sometimes you surprise everyone. FXO did it.

The Artists

(T)Fenix
(T)Lyn
(Z)Moon
(P)NaNiwa
(P)SocceR
(T)ThorZaIN


With that we're almost done, but before we go...

Week 7 Preview
by Heyoka

Jupiter Group, August 11

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F.United vs MVP
Starters: (T)Fenix, NalZa


F.United, I love you, but tonight is probably not your night. Several of you just arrived in Korea this week, you probably haven't even adjusted to the new diet, much less had time to discuss team strategy. You're not even all living in the same house! I know team cohesion is not the most important facet in this format but it certainly can't hurt. Let's use tonight as a learning experience, we use this as our starting point to grow together. Be patient, your time will come. For now, relax and prepare for a harsh dose of reality.

Of course we can always hope that MVP pulls an Incredible-Miracle-vs-Qxc and throws out B-Teamers. MVP handily.

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oGs-TL vs TSL
Starters: (P)Vines, (P)JYP (Smart)


Old Generations has one of the more scary lineups in the team league, but has had considerable trouble generating consistent wins. Meanwhile TSL is sitting nicely at 2-0, unfortunately for them one of those wins was on the back of PuMa (who is no longer within their ranks). This one may be close but oGs gets the edge for a deeper lineup. Also HuK. oGs by a hair.

Venus Group, August 12

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FXO Korea vs ZeNEX
Starters: (T)GuMiho, (T)Hack


After playing 3 matches a piece, these two teams are only one game apart in the standings. Both have decent lineups and guys that can give an outstanding performance under the right conditions. "On paper", as spreadsheet warriors like to say, they are fairly similar. However the ZeNEX core is slightly brighter with Puzzle, CoCa, and Byun all playing towards the top of their ability. It seems clear they have some advantage, though just how much is up for considerable debate.

As Divinek learned anything can happen in a team league so I'm not banking too heavily on that. ZeNEX probably, maybe. Most likely.


Time to see how GSTL develops, so grab a snack and a friend (or IRC) and prepare yourself.

Enjoy.


This GSTL update was brought to you thanks to HawaiianPig, Divinek, confusedcrib, bobq, and Heyoka in no particular order. Special thanks to SirJolt for some editing tips! The GSTL is pretty awesome so we are likely to do this in the future, check back soon to find results or berate your favorite player for losing.
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@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
August 11 2011 05:21 GMT
#2
I can't wait to see WeMade in action.
Jaedong plz
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 11 2011 05:22 GMT
#3
Also today is Divinek's birthday! Wish him happy festivities! He is apparently out celebrating now.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 11 2011 05:24 GMT
#4
Happy birthday.

F.United is going to be a lot of fun to watch.
RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
August 11 2011 05:28 GMT
#5
Yeah I really hope F.United together does better than they all did individually, though Thorzain came very close to staying in Code A....

All-kill pl0x?
Artosis: Yeah I was gonna probe rush but someone did that yesterday
rickybobby
Profile Joined October 2010
United States405 Posts
August 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#6
awesome write up. Too bad thorzain and naniwa got knocked out of code A, but watching f.united should be fun :D
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
August 11 2011 05:37 GMT
#7
oh Happy Birthday mate.
Cant wait to watch Fenix, Naniwa and Thorzain fighting! Yea!
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
Colonial
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
August 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#8
grrrrrr Puma was a mini-Flash. Sad we won't see him in GSTL anymore ((
"All your parties are our pre-parties cause you ain't from IV!"
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 11 2011 05:52 GMT
#9
Happy bday and great write up
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 11 2011 05:52 GMT
#10
Jinro got knocked out, Thorzain got beaten, Sase got rolled, and naniwa looked helpless... What hope do foreigners have in korea? + Show Spoiler +


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The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
August 11 2011 05:53 GMT
#11
Oh geez. Rooting for F.United (foregingers united ). But otherwise nice write up. Really looking to see in a few weeks how F United does once they get all situated.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Chopin
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway55 Posts
August 11 2011 05:57 GMT
#12
Get dimaga... he's The One.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 11 2011 06:42 GMT
#13
Well, hopefull with the three failures well-rested, they can show what they are truly made of! THORZAIN FIGHTING
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
August 11 2011 06:48 GMT
#14
Obligatory brag post, I am number 1! (for this week at least)
Cyberpansy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States24 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#15
Really looking forward to seeing foreigners in the team leagues again! I never realized how powerful a motivation that would be to make me stay up and watch the GSL every night, but it definitely does. Hope to see great games, looking forward to seeing the foreigners improve against their Korean counterparts. Good luck guys!

P.S: Remember when FXO went to Korea and everyone said it was the worst idea ever? Who'd have predicted that they would be the first in a long line of foreigner/korean integration lately? Kudos to them, and to the keen business savvy of their management.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 07:01:54
August 11 2011 07:01 GMT
#16
On August 11 2011 15:48 godemperor wrote:
Obligatory brag post, I am number 1! (for this week at least)


Congrats!

I'm super excited for MVP vs. F.United, and I completely agree with what was said about that match.

Edit: I hope they can pull out a miracle, plus I really want Naniwa to do well in Korea. He is one of my Protoss heroes!
oPlaiD
Profile Joined March 2011
United States31 Posts
August 11 2011 07:20 GMT
#17
I was actually thinking about making a trade this week, but now I won't just to meet your challenge.
Samuel Lingle - Senior Editor - http://www.esfiworld.com/
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 11 2011 07:30 GMT
#18
Frankly I think we should make a separate noteworthy category for people who don't trade.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
August 11 2011 07:52 GMT
#19
this is a great writeup! ^__^
cant wait for todays matches
Liquipedia@jkursk
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 08:05:40
August 11 2011 08:05 GMT
#20
We need to find more places to use the new ST logo, as much as possible.

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Thank God and gunrun.
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
August 11 2011 08:13 GMT
#21
new STARTALE LOGO IS SICK!!!!
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
August 11 2011 08:48 GMT
#22
com en Fox United you can do!!!!!!!

Id love a good showing 4-2 or even 4-3 lose will do us proud!!!! SOmethign to build on for next week!
Live and Let Die!
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
August 11 2011 08:58 GMT
#23
Ahh yes. The classic write up minuites before the event starts.

I LOVE IT.

Snitches get stiches
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
August 11 2011 09:06 GMT
#24
Hopefuly, F United can win a game or two, foreigner/korean/hybrid fightingg
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 11 2011 09:12 GMT
#25
On August 11 2011 18:06 DisaFear wrote:
Hopefuly, F United can win a game or two, foreigner/korean/hybrid fightingg


Why isn't Sase on the F United team?
Bio-Leera
Profile Joined May 2010
United States65 Posts
August 11 2011 09:18 GMT
#26
shout out for a david foster wallace mention. Our E-Sport journalists are so literate. Great review keep up the work.
TeslaTv
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway31 Posts
August 11 2011 09:20 GMT
#27
So what GOM is airing roght now isn't recap? It's live?
Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
August 11 2011 09:25 GMT
#28
On August 11 2011 18:20 TeslaTv wrote:
So what GOM is airing roght now isn't recap? It's live?


Yes they're live right now.

Anyway I'm really excited for the games!
Gnomie
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark39 Posts
August 11 2011 09:27 GMT
#29
Where is SaSe?!?!?!
"I can beat IdrA in a real game. Without real units." - HuK
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
August 11 2011 09:51 GMT
#30
F.United!!!!!
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
August 11 2011 09:52 GMT
#31
i just dont understand with no disrespect to Fenix

Why the hell does F.United start with its weekest member?
Baerinho
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 10:10:35
August 11 2011 10:09 GMT
#32
gogogo F.United, tho i honestly dont expect much. Hope to get surprised

oh, and go ST

On August 11 2011 17:05 Primadog wrote:
We need to find more places to use the new ST logo, as much as possible.



I did

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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
August 11 2011 10:13 GMT
#33
looks like ill have to buy a gstl pass :D
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
nYaLa
Profile Joined January 2011
Uzbekistan295 Posts
August 11 2011 11:04 GMT
#34
Don't think oGs will win HuK isn't there!
Pretty excited about FUnited ^.^
no
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
August 11 2011 11:25 GMT
#35
heyoka, how's ThorZaIN going, hey? 3-0!!

Oh, man I'm not gonna blame you but it looks like F.United will win so yeah.... atleast you don't have to eat your shirt again! ^^
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Arckan
Profile Joined September 2010
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 12:02:00
August 11 2011 12:01 GMT
#36
Excellent write-up, really hypes me up.

+ Show Spoiler +
There's a typo at the bottom of the "Week 6" section, though.

Let's See Who's Ball is Bigger?

Should be:

"Let's See Whose Ball is Bigger"
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 11 2011 12:09 GMT
#37
Never been happier to eat my words.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4003 Posts
August 11 2011 12:12 GMT
#38
Never have I been happier to be involved in unashamedly talking something up.
Moderator@SirJolt
Gnomie
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark39 Posts
August 11 2011 12:14 GMT
#39
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA
Foreigners fighting!
"I can beat IdrA in a real game. Without real units." - HuK
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
August 11 2011 12:15 GMT
#40
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH, FOREIGNERS UNITED FTW
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
August 11 2011 12:16 GMT
#41
F. United fighting if they keep playing like this im sure they'll make the playoffs
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
PutziE
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway3 Posts
August 11 2011 12:17 GMT
#42
F.U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REFT RIGHT REFT RIGHT
Night Eyes
Profile Joined January 2011
433 Posts
August 11 2011 12:26 GMT
#43
On August 11 2011 21:09 heyoka wrote:
Never been happier to eat my words.


Good thing its just words and not a shirt ^^
excellent!
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
August 11 2011 12:26 GMT
#44
On August 11 2011 19:09 Baerinho wrote:
gogogo F.United, tho i honestly dont expect much. Hope to get surprised

oh, and go ST

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 17:05 Primadog wrote:
We need to find more places to use the new ST logo, as much as possible.



I did

[image loading]

By god I think you've fixed it.
我的媽和她的瘋狂的外甥都
MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
August 11 2011 12:30 GMT
#45
5 warcraft 3 players in F.United lol
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
August 11 2011 12:34 GMT
#46
Shame NaniZain were out of shape for their code A games, clearly they're on par with good koreans when on form. Dunno if anyone else on F.U. will be getting many kills though... Maybe the FXO effect could kick in, training in Korea caused a big leap for their players.
我的媽和她的瘋狂的外甥都
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
August 11 2011 13:41 GMT
#47
On August 11 2011 21:34 mostevil wrote:
Shame NaniZain were out of shape for their code A games, clearly they're on par with good koreans when on form. Dunno if anyone else on F.U. will be getting many kills though... Maybe the FXO effect could kick in, training in Korea caused a big leap for their players.

I just hope someone on their team is good vZ as that looks like F. United's biggest weakness at the moment considering it being Thorzain's and Naniwa's weakest matchup.

Great start though, revenge for yesterday and pride for the foreigner community, loving it!
Jimx
Profile Joined September 2010
Mexico21 Posts
August 11 2011 13:45 GMT
#48
Of course we can always hope that MVP pulls an Incredible-Miracle-vs-Qxc and throws out B-Teamers. MVP handily.


+ Show Spoiler +
No B-Teamer miracle, just the god of thunder making a stand :D ... (sorry, had to)
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 11 2011 13:57 GMT
#49
On August 11 2011 19:09 Baerinho wrote:
gogogo F.United, tho i honestly dont expect much. Hope to get surprised

oh, and go ST

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 17:05 Primadog wrote:
We need to find more places to use the new ST logo, as much as possible.



I did

[image loading]

hahahaha xD
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
August 11 2011 14:03 GMT
#50
David Foster Wallace being referenced in a TL article? Nice.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
August 11 2011 14:39 GMT
#51
Good writeup, I'm really enjoying these each week!

A harsh dose of reality was indeed given today/tonight/this evening/whatever timezone.....when F.United showed koreans that foreigners indeed can fight BACK and HOW!! :D

Tonight it truly was Foreign dudes own koreans!
Do you really want chat rooms?
Temporarykid
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada362 Posts
August 11 2011 15:45 GMT
#52
Is it possible to get the banner picture for this thread in wallpaper size? (I mean the picture from the homepage.) :s
ㅈㅈ
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
August 11 2011 16:30 GMT
#53
Nice write-up, am glad FUnited can hang w the pro-Koreans, and time will tell if they can fare well against the cream of the crop!
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
August 11 2011 16:42 GMT
#54
On August 12 2011 01:30 ArchDC wrote:
Nice write-up, am glad FUnited can hang w the pro-Koreans, and time will tell if they can fare well against the cream of the crop!


i dont know what ur talking about MVP is the cream of the crop
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
August 11 2011 17:07 GMT
#55
I really don't see F.United getting anywhere in GSTL. It's the sad sad truth for the foreigners!
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
August 11 2011 17:14 GMT
#56
On August 12 2011 02:07 InsidiA wrote:
I really don't see F.United getting anywhere in GSTL. It's the sad sad truth for the foreigners!

Did you see last nights results?
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
August 11 2011 17:16 GMT
#57
I just can't believe the foreigners won! :D
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 11 2011 17:42 GMT
#58
On August 12 2011 02:07 InsidiA wrote:
I really don't see F.United getting anywhere in GSTL. It's the sad sad truth for the foreigners!


they won vs the best unbeaten team in their devision ^^
i see thorzain + nani crush most of the other teams ^^ and if you have someone crazy you will still have moon
sad but soccer and fenix just arent of the level of the other 4
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
August 11 2011 17:57 GMT
#59
On August 11 2011 21:09 heyoka wrote:
Never been happier to eat my words.


Good call on that heyoka.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
qqw
Profile Joined June 2011
107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 18:02:03
August 11 2011 18:00 GMT
#60
On August 12 2011 02:42 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 02:07 InsidiA wrote:
I really don't see F.United getting anywhere in GSTL. It's the sad sad truth for the foreigners!


they won vs the best unbeaten team in their devision ^^
i see thorzain + nani crush most of the other teams ^^ and if you have someone crazy you will still have moon
sad but soccer and fenix just arent of the level of the other 4

SocceR, Moon and Lyn are all practising wc3 for wcg so F. United will really be relying on naniwa, thorzain and fenix for a while.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 11 2011 18:16 GMT
#61
On August 12 2011 03:00 qqw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 02:42 CoR wrote:
On August 12 2011 02:07 InsidiA wrote:
I really don't see F.United getting anywhere in GSTL. It's the sad sad truth for the foreigners!


they won vs the best unbeaten team in their devision ^^
i see thorzain + nani crush most of the other teams ^^ and if you have someone crazy you will still have moon
sad but soccer and fenix just arent of the level of the other 4

SocceR, Moon and Lyn are all practising wc3 for wcg so F. United will really be relying on naniwa, thorzain and fenix for a while.

That sucks... But I still believe in them, after today's show. THOR NANI PRACTICE GO GO GO
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 11 2011 18:54 GMT
#62
On August 12 2011 02:42 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 02:07 InsidiA wrote:
I really don't see F.United getting anywhere in GSTL. It's the sad sad truth for the foreigners!


they won vs the best unbeaten team in their devision ^^
i see thorzain + nani crush most of the other teams ^^ and if you have someone crazy you will still have moon
sad but soccer and fenix just arent of the level of the other 4


MVP was down 1-3 vs. the previous two teams they played - then DRG came in to 3-kill twice. MVP without DRG playing is a much weaker team. As far as the strongest team in the divison, I'm pretty sure that's TSL.

Bo1 = anything can happen. FXOpen took two games off Startale in their first week in Korea, then proceeded to get AK'd twice in a row by weaker teams. So, I'd still be wary about being overly optimistic about F. United's prospects.
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
August 11 2011 19:16 GMT
#63
SPOILER



Holy shit Thorzain owned ass vs MVP!




SPOILER!

MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 11 2011 19:18 GMT
#64
Team Warcraft three hwaiting! Seriously though, more than half the F.United team are former/current warcraft 3 players I like it.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Frequencyy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States344 Posts
August 11 2011 19:25 GMT
#65
I really hope F.United can prove something against MVP. I don't think that they will be blown out of the water, naniwa, thorzain, and fenix are all great players. And then they have Moon who is decent and Lyn who has potential.
You will not do incredible things without an incredible dream
vGJunkie
Profile Joined May 2011
United States5 Posts
August 11 2011 19:31 GMT
#66
FU huh? niceee i like it
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
August 11 2011 19:32 GMT
#67
On August 12 2011 03:16 Hemula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 03:00 qqw wrote:
On August 12 2011 02:42 CoR wrote:
On August 12 2011 02:07 InsidiA wrote:
I really don't see F.United getting anywhere in GSTL. It's the sad sad truth for the foreigners!


they won vs the best unbeaten team in their devision ^^
i see thorzain + nani crush most of the other teams ^^ and if you have someone crazy you will still have moon
sad but soccer and fenix just arent of the level of the other 4

SocceR, Moon and Lyn are all practising wc3 for wcg so F. United will really be relying on naniwa, thorzain and fenix for a while.

That sucks... But I still believe in them, after today's show. THOR NANI PRACTICE GO GO GO

They should pick up Sase then, don't know why not team does that.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
August 11 2011 19:36 GMT
#68
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 12 2011 04:16 Lewan72 wrote:
SPOILER



Holy shit Thorzain owned ass vs MVP!




SPOILER!



Spoiler tags! Your friends if you don't want to spoil something
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 20:04:40
August 11 2011 20:04 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler +
I love how GSTL provides positive surprises for us foreigners. First QXC and now Thorzain and Naniwa. Making the previews look silly =)
Xenogears
Profile Joined July 2011
France87 Posts
August 11 2011 20:53 GMT
#70
+ Show Spoiler +

Heyoka, you should have more faith in the might Thorzain and Naniwa.
MVP :)
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 23:00:11
August 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#71
rofl. + Show Spoiler +
did this get posted after thorzain crushed faces.
so funny.

Also, newfound respect for startale. Really showing they can not take themselves seriously. jk, but it is a funny logo
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
August 11 2011 23:01 GMT
#72
On August 12 2011 04:16 Lewan72 wrote:


[spoiler]message hear [(slash)spoiler]
damn nubbins
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#73
F.United, I love you, but tonight is probably not your night. Several of you just arrived in Korea this week, you probably haven't even adjusted to the new diet, much less had time to discuss team strategy. You're not even all living in the same house! I know team cohesion is not the most important facet in this format but it certainly can't hurt. Let's use tonight as a learning experience, we use this as our starting point to grow together. Be patient, your time will come. For now, relax and prepare for a harsh dose of reality.

Of course we can always hope that MVP pulls an Incredible-Miracle-vs-Qxc and throws out B-Teamers. MVP handily.


Eat your shirt! Eat your shirt! Eat your shirt!

Oh wait... damnit.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
August 12 2011 02:04 GMT
#74
Soccer isn't practising for WC3, he made full transition to SC2 i think.

Moon and Lyn are practicing WC3, their skills in WC3 probaly improved so much now from sc2, watch Lyn's new zepplin dropship play, just you niggas wait Stimmed Blademaster
Omegastorm
Profile Joined July 2011
102 Posts
August 12 2011 02:42 GMT
#75
On August 12 2011 11:04 MildSeven wrote:
Soccer isn't practising for WC3, he made full transition to SC2 i think.

Moon and Lyn are practicing WC3, their skills in WC3 probaly improved so much now from sc2, watch Lyn's new zepplin dropship play, just you niggas wait Stimmed Blademaster


Haha! The speed scroll + blademaster and grunts?
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 04:34:04
August 12 2011 04:33 GMT
#76
On August 12 2011 02:42 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 02:07 InsidiA wrote:
I really don't see F.United getting anywhere in GSTL. It's the sad sad truth for the foreigners!


they won vs the best unbeaten team in their devision ^^
i see thorzain + nani crush most of the other teams ^^ and if you have someone crazy you will still have moon
sad but soccer and fenix just arent of the level of the other 4


MVP without DRG would probably be winless, United faced a much weaker version of Mvp. Plus I'm pretty sure TSL is the best team but w/e
MKP||TSL
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
August 12 2011 04:35 GMT
#77
On August 12 2011 11:04 MildSeven wrote:
Soccer isn't practising for WC3, he made full transition to SC2 i think.

Moon and Lyn are practicing WC3, their skills in WC3 probaly improved so much now from sc2, watch Lyn's new zepplin dropship play, just you niggas wait Stimmed Blademaster

Soccer just won Stars War so I doubt it, but could be true I guess
MKP||TSL
irina_liu
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 06:40:38
August 12 2011 06:38 GMT
#78
--- Nuked ---
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 12 2011 10:04 GMT
#79
Anyone got any idea why Sase is not playing as part of F.United?
SpaNkinG
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey89 Posts
August 12 2011 18:39 GMT
#80
thorzain was just so good !!!
it's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
August 13 2011 02:29 GMT
#81
On August 12 2011 19:04 -Archangel- wrote:
Anyone got any idea why Sase is not playing as part of F.United?


i was wondering the same thing, i was looking forward to seeing him play on the team
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
August 13 2011 13:44 GMT
#82
Considering they hardly have enough SC2 players and have two Swedes already it is really odd that they don't pick SaSe up. He seems like the perfect match, one of the top foreigners, lives in Korea, without a team and is deadly dedicated to become better.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 22:50:43
August 13 2011 22:50 GMT
#83
Foreigners fighting!!!
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
Falcon_Power
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada26 Posts
August 14 2011 22:06 GMT
#84
lol @ Startale logo haha crack me up!
No sacrifice, no Victory.
irishB
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2 Posts
August 15 2011 05:35 GMT
#85
--- Nuked ---
PandaGuy
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany14 Posts
August 16 2011 08:24 GMT
#86
Oh my god, the new ST Logo is hillarious epic! :D
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