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Text byMilkis
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April 8th, 2011 20:40 GMT
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SKT T1 vs Hwaseung Oz Recap

Beat of the Revolution

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Winner's League Finals Preview
- Previews and Prediction
- Fan Interviews


Return of Odds and Ends


By Milkis, mustaju, Mystlord, Spica, and tree.hugger

Perhaps, it was destiny.

Or maybe it's something even simpler. We all remember what iloveoov had implied before -- it was only natural for SKT to make it to the finals, to meet KT there. They are, after all, the two biggest sponsors in Brood War, investing more money into their precious teams than entire Starcraft 2 leagues combined. The sponsors were just seeing the effect of their money.

But money isn't everything. This is e-Sports, after all -- there must be something more fundamental at work. They are, after all, rivals -- and we always get fired up by seeing our rival at the grander stages. It was the underlying motivation, perhaps, as they looped through hoops and hurdles to get all the way here.

At the grandest stage, the rivals meet again. For SKT T1, they reached their final destination. For KT, they have awaited their rivals with a smirk in their faces. SKT swore that they will meet KT at the top, and they kept their promise. KT greeted them, as if they expected them all along.

All the formalities are now over. It is now time.

SKT T1 versus Hwaseung Oz Recap
by Mystlord

Killer vs Ssak


It has been a good 2.5 years since Mech finally became a good strategy to use in TvZ, and it's evolved a lot over the time period. Even still, it's almost kind of scary just how many Zergs just don't seem to understand how to properly defeat Mech. So what should you not do when fighting Mech?


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Don't attack a massive Tank ball with only Lurkers and misfire the Dark Swarm.

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Don't ever let this happen.

Don't ever let Terran's Science Vessel count build up if he's going Mech. And when you snipe 4 of his Vessels, and he has no Goliaths, go Mutas.

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Don't think that Ultras can let a 5.5 base Zerg beat a 4 base Mech. Ever. As a subnote, don't make about 12 Ultras, and essentially suicide about 6-8 of them in a failed drop attack with no Swarm.

Don't ever let Terran take 4 bases uncontested while you feel content to mill about your side of the map with Lurkers and Defilers.


And how do you know if you're failing something in TvZ Mech? Well if the Terran is attacking you more than you are attacking him... You have a problem. So how did Killer lose? By never gaining an economic advantage, by letting Mech get too strong, by never being aggressive, etc... Killer, I know it hurts, being in Jaedong's shadow and all, but you can't reject literally everything he does. I expect better from you.

Ssak vs Dear


Hm? What? There was a game? Oh I'm sorry...


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I was too busy watching Bunkie molest girls.


So uhh, whose decision was it to have Dear go 1 Base Reaver on a map with no ramp and a damn big choke? Well I doubt it really mattered anyway, since you certainly can't defend a Terran push of 6 Marines, 2 Vultures, and 4 Tanks with only 2 Dragoons. Oz Protosses... Sigh.

Ssak vs Perfectman


In a rare flash of intelligent decision making, Perfectman played extremely aggressively against Ssak's forward Rax. It was a great decision, partly because of exactly where Ssak decided to place his Barracks, and it was so far removed from his natural that it would have been hard for Ssak to defend, even with a Bunker at the front. At the very least, Ssak would have had to pull so many SCVs to just stay by the Bunker at the front to both repair and stop run-bys that he'd be pretty behind economically. If he put the Bunker in his main, he risked being contained until he could amass a decent Tank force because the reverse ramp would have given Perfectman such a poweful advantage.

Even still, a Bunker would have been better than no bunker, but Ssak thought that somehow Marines + a Vulture can hold off Zealots and Dragoons. So what happened?


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White man.

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Into GG.


s2 vs Perfectman


PvZ has changed recently. The pendulum always moves back and forth in terms of whether Protoss favors a ground army or Corsairs, and it's a careful balancing act. Bisu lately has been favoring a mass Corsair play, and it's amusing to watch lesser Protoss players try to emulate his success with his style of play.

So let's see how Perfectman does with regards to some of the hallmarks of Bisu's play.

1) Be aggressive with early game units.


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Check, but I think he's doing it wrong.


2) Get lots of Corsairs.

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Check!


3) Do something meaningful with the Corsairs

Erm...

4) Get Storm, and don't lose High Templar to random snipes

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Uh...


Ok I'm oversimplifying, but it's really surprising just how late Perfectman's Storms came. I mean he didn’t have Storm at about 12 minutes into the game. For comparison, your first Corsair should come out at roughly 5-6 minutes on a standard timing. So why, if you know that the Zerg is going mass Hydra, do you forego Storm? Well that's a mystery for another day.

s2 vs Jaedong


Interestingly, Jaedong had been 0-2 against s2 before this game. And just watching this game, it's hard to understand why. Jaedong's strength, ever since the Summer of 2008, has always been this scary knowledge of how many Zerglings to field to just barely overrun his opponent, and either win outright or deal sufficient economic damage to give him a lead. Supplement that with some of the best Mutalisk micro, and you have an absolutely winning combination.

While I would love to give all of the credit to Jaedong, s2 kind of handed the win to him. Sure, Jaedong destroyed s2's Zergling control and delayed gas mining while picking off 2 Drones, but when it came down to it, s2's mistake was...


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2 Drones on gas.


It was a pretty big mistake, especially given that s2 didn't catch it for the rest of the game. Being down on Drones and on gas... So he'd be at a disadvantage in Mutalisk and Scourge count. That won't work out well.


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And it didn't.


fantasy vs Jaedong


fantasy's been on a roll lately, but Jaedong pulled a trick out of his hat from a year ago that crushes fantasy's early Vulture play.


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2 Hatch Mutas.


Terran has a tough time getting any type of solid air defense off of 2 Factories, and it shows in this game as fantasy struggled to defend against Jaedong's early Mutas. Even with all those Drone kills that fantasy got, he was only able to break even with Jaedong on worker count once those Mutalisks finished with his base. From here, Jaedong abused the fact that fantasy never truly got any Valkyries or anti-air like that, and just went straight up mass Mutas.

However, the moment that sealed Jaedong's victory was when he spotted fantasy's hidden expo, took it out, and Sunkened up at his natural so fantasy couldn't attack. fantasy never had a chance after being knocked out economically.

Bisu vs Jaedong


Ah yes, Bisu’s PvZ. One of his strongest matchups, and also one of his most consistent. So it’s nice to see Bisu returning to what earned him his killer PvZ record in the first place. Mass Corsair play.

But this time around, he isn’t complementing his mass Corsair play with Reavers or DTs. Instead, he’s going to power through Zerg’s defenses with Corsair/Zealot. And it’s such a deadly combination. Since this is just a battle report, I won’t bore you with details, but suffice it to say that Mutalisks have a really tough time against this combination. And that’s what Jaedong found out (again).

Though while Bisu’s play was great, Jaedong’s play really wasn’t. Jaedong was able to get an early run-by, but he made a strange decision afterwards to pump around 12 or so additional Zerglings, when there really was no need to do so. It was a mysterious decision because Jaedong knows that Zerg really has no opportunity to Drone up in the mid game, as all of their larva would be tied up in unit production, so early game Drone production is crucial.

Jaedong was slightly down economically, but that wasn’t what clinched the game for Bisu. It was his repeated attacks that completely slammed Jaedong’s 12 o’clock base.


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Over...

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And over...


The power of Mutalisks in ZvP is that they exercise map control. Protoss has to fear for his expansions, has to fear for his HTs, and has to fear for his main. But Jaedong never really had the opportunity to properly utilize his Mutalisks because they were constantly being tied up defending Bisu’s attacks on 12. And Mutalisks really aren’t known for their ability to defend.

As Bisu just continued to attack 12, Jaedong found himself being constantly worn down, and the result was that he lost more Mutalisks than he should have because of mismicro. At one point, Bisu dropped 2 Zealots and an Archon in Jaedong’s 12 main, and the result?

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8 kill Archon. 6 of those kills are Mutalisks, not to mention the splash damage.


Multiple times throughout the game, Jaedong failed to split his Mutalisks properly, and so took more damage from Corsairs and Archons. Eventually, when his Mutalisks too battered to do anything, Jaedong transitioned into HydraLurk, but it was far too late. Bisu had already gained an insurmountable economic advantage, matching Zerg base for base. At that point, there was really nothing that Jaedong could do, so all we saw was

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Complete domination.


While Bisu ended up playing a good game, Jaedong’s play was just lackluster. A disappointing end to a disappointing series.


Beat of the Revolution
by Milkis

The revolutionist slumped onto the ground as the last ten beats told him that he was down and out for the count. Tears were shed, accounts were banned, and the final thread of faith SKT fans had in Taek-Shin was lost as Bisu was carried out like a lamb to be slaughtered to the tune of Polaris Rhapsody at the grandest stage.

The beats could be heard no more. It was the end of the score, the revolution movement was all thought to be over. People started to leave. Some were distressed, that something so majestic, so dominant, could fade away without even a whimper. Some just sat there, waiting, hoping.

Then the beats started again. Slowly, but surely. The pulses reverberated all around the hall, sending chills down the spines of everyone. Some broke down on to their knees and wept for their faithlessness. They all returned.

Some were still doubtful. To them it was just an echo, they were being fooled. Some said this wasn't a revolution, but an encore -- it will end soon. But little did they know that the real revolution had only just began.

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Bisu's Proleague Stats by Season

The beat has never been as dominant, the melody never been as shrewd. People revelled in the phantasmagoria -- a grand master plan seamed together through a fluid, masterful control that seemed to occur everywhere at the same time. They remembered why they had call him Taek-Shin once -- this was something no mortals could do. When they watched Bisu play, they saw a chess grandmaster, thinking moves ahead of his opponents, scheming to bring to his game, herding them into positions through his incredible mechanics. His plan is planned out to the most utmost detail -- and a single moment of passivity is all that is needed for Bisu's rhythm to dominate.

Yet in the end, people have a special place for the first time they hear a masterpiece, wrapping it in nostalgia and treasure it, much like their first love. The second movement has yet to sink in to many, but when they do, they will once again realize that why it was Bisu who overthrew the Maestro. But this will take time, of course -- you can never know what era you are in while you are still in it -- it is only when you finally manage to step out that you are able to see that the beat of the revolution has never been stronger.


And now, here is tree.hugger with a gruesome documentary of what has went on in the SKT dormitories last night.

Beast Mode
by tree.hugger

      The lights have long since gone out at the SKT T1 house, but (Z)Sea.Hak is lying awake, unable to sleep, tracing the cracks in the ceiling. A thousand thoughts run through his head and he fights against them, but the currents in his mind are too strong and they come spilling out.
      “I wonder if it was the right decision to come here,” he thinks, “Maybe I should’ve just switched to starcaft two or went to school. Will I ever make it as a progamer? am I wasting my life?”
      A tear winds its way down Hak’s cheek, and he turns over in his bed, happy that nobody can see him crying. The only person on SKT1 who is allowed to cry is Bisu. This happens quite frequently.
      In the gloom of the dorm, Hak stares across at his zerg teammates. In his mind he replays a favorite dream of his. There’s a large striped tent and spotlights cutting through the sky. Hung from tall poles is a banner that reads “Hak and Hyuk: The Amazing SKT Zergs!” People queue for miles, eagerly waiting for a ticket to see the show. Inside, Hak sits next to his idol and the two play starcraft all day long, destroying Flash, picking apart Jaedong, clipping Stork. Then Hyuk performs a piece of stand-up comedy, Hak sings a farewell song, and the show ends to rapturous applause.
      As he pictures the scene, Hak tries to stop his tears, but they flow freely like waterfalls and he whispers softly to himself. “Why can’t life be like my dreams?”

      “It’ll all turn out as we planned.” says a harsh voice from nearby. Hak sits bolt upright and looks around. The players around him are all sleeping. Hak shivers slightly and is about to dismiss the voice as a product of his imagination when he hears it again, clearer and closer.
      “They will not know what has been prepared. They will not expect it.” says the voice, and Hak immediately knows that it comes from beyond the closed door of the room. Anxious, he listens intently and hears something cumbersome shuffling past the door and down the hall.
      “But Flash, he’s so good.” comes a new voice higher pitched and wavering. In a moment, Hak recognizes it.
      “(T)Fantasy?” he asks aloud.
      The shuffling grows quieter as the speakers move down the hallway. Hardly believing his own actions, Hak rises from his bed and tiptoes to the door, opening it a crack. Disappearing around a corner into the kitchen he sees the doubled-over figure of the team’s ace terran. Hak hesitates for a moment, then nudges open the door and slips after him.
      Fantasy does not notice his follower, instead moving slowly through the kitchen, bent double and muttering. There is nobody with him, and for a moment Hak is horrified that there might be someone else whom might be lurking nearby. But in a moment he hears the same raspy voice coming from Fantasy. Hak hides behind the table, afraid to approach much closer, but he makes out words from what sounds like the ravings of a madman.
      “Vultures!” fantasy says loudly, “Vultures in dropships!”
      Hak looks around again to see if anyone else has been awakened and come out into the hallway. But the SKT dorms sits in brooding silence. When Hak turns around, fantasy is unlocking the front door of the suite, still muttering. Hak follows him out the door and up the apartment building stairs, remaining just out of sight but following the strange sounds he makes. The raspy voice dominates, but occasionally Hak again hears the high, nearly feminine voice of the fantasy he knows from practice.
      “I wonder if I should do something...” Hak thinks to himself, remembering an article he read on the internet about the dangers of sleepwalking. “Perhaps I should tell coach oov!”
      He stops suddenly as the sound of a bolt being released reverberates down the stairwell. When he slips up the next flight and peers through the banister, he sees fantasy opening the door to the roof and stepping out into the night air. Panic overtakes Hak and he rushes to follow. “Is he going to jump—?”

      When he rushes up the stairs and bursts through the door, fantasy is staring directly at him, arm outstretched, palm raised. Hak stops short and something heavy falls from his throat into his stomach.
      “You!” says the deep raspy voice, laced with menace “You followed me here. What do YOU have to offer?”
      Hak fumbles for words, but they refuse to come out. “N-n-n-othing” he eventually offers, “Nothing. I have nothing to offer.”
      “Then why are you here?”
      “I followed you here, uh, I was worried, you need your sleep, I mean we have the playoffs—”
      “What’s that? PLAYOFFS? You kidding me? You’re telling me about the PLAYOFFS?”
      Hak backs against the door that he just came through. “Sorry, it’s just, Coach Oov, he said to get sleep.”
      “WRAITHS!” roars the voice, “MANY WRAITHS. WHAT DO YOU THINK?”
      “I, uh, I hate wraiths,” says Hak, “Your two port wraith play is really difficult to stop!”
      In one motion, fantasy steps forward and grabs Hak by the throat. “WILL IT WORK?” he bellows.
      Hak tries to speak, but swallows a stream of saliva instead.
      “Leave him alone, he’s just a boy!” says the high-pitched fantasy voice.
      “WILL FLASH EXPECT WRAITHS?!”
      “Stop, you’re hurting him, he’s a new player, we should be nice!”
      “SHUT UP. NOW IS HIS TIME TO CONTRIBUTE.”
      “Leave him alone!”
      The hand around Hak’s throat relenquishes its iron grip and Hak collapses onto the roof, gasping for breath. When he looks up, fantasy seems to be dancing, his hand around his own neck, his other hand grasping his wrist. Fantasy bends back and twists, falling to the ground. He writhes and contorts into a number of tense poses, skin taut, muscles straining.
      “Stop! Stop doing this!” Hak yells, throwing himself ontop of fantasy and grabbing at the arm around his neck. In a second they are locked together, pulling and then the hand breaks free. Hak falls back onto the roof, and fantasy is suddenly still, then slowly beginning to relax his muscles.
      “Are you okay?” asks Hak.
      “I’m fine.” says fantasy in a new voice that is deep and assured like bourbon, “Thank you.” He picks himself up from the roof and brushes dust off of his uniform.
      “What happened there—wait why do you wear your uniform to bed?”
      “Do not be troubled by these things.” says fantasy, walking towards the door, “Let’s get some sleep. Winners league finals is tomorrow.”
      “Are you feeling okay?” says Hak one more time, “Are you going to be ready.”
      Fantasy turns in the doorway and looks at the young zerg. “I’m ready.” he says.


Winner's League Finals Preview
The Maps
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Bloody Ridge
Fortress SE
Icarus
Circuit Breaker
Aztec
La Mancha
Empire of the Sun

Proleague Writing Team Predictions

disciple
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(P)BeSt <Bloody Ridge> (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy <Fortress SE> (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy <Icarus> (Z)Action
(T)Fantasy <Circuit Breaker> (T)Flash
(P)Bisu <Aztec> (T)Flash
(P)Bisu <La Mancha> (Z)Hoejja/Crazy-Hydra

Milkis
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The maps of course, play out oddly. The initial maps seem to favor Zerg, although Fortress SE makes any Zerg starter snipeable. This could be a risk that both teams should be willing to take, it seems, as the first game will definitely dictate the tempo of the game. The later maps are more favorable towards Terran. Protoss is playable on any of these maps, overall.

The best chance SKT has is to try and bring Flash out by Aztec. Of course, Empire of the Sun is also a comfortable sniping venue.

I could honestly see Bisu being brought out early. Stats, after all, isn't an automatic win against Bisu as everyone pouts it to be, and despite the maps Bisu is on a different class when it comes down to it. The goal is to bring Flash out early so he could be sniped as soon as possible -- although I could see Action and Crazy-Hydra with a build designed to take down Bisu, but even that is very risky.

It's not as one sided as people make it out to be, I think. My prediction is that KT will win 4:2 if they win the first game, and SKT will win it 4:3 if they take the first game. It'll be a pretty close series.

Mystlord
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Now this is going to be a sticky situation for SKT. It all comes down to who they will attempt to field against Flash. My guess? Bisu. His PvT has been very shaky in the past, but the driving factor here is the map order. The last four maps, in order, will be Circuit Breaker, Aztec, La Mancha, and finally Empire of the Sun. Bisu has a solid chance of facing down Flash on all four of these maps, and with the first few maps not Flash's favorites, it's likely that Flash will come out later in KT's lineup. Now the key here will be whether KT will save Stats to try to take down Bisu. It definitely is a possibility, especially considering Bisu’s PvP performance as of late. As a result, they might leave Stats for their Ace slot, and place Flash third in their lineup. The only problem with that idea is that then Flash is far more likely to come out and be forced to play on Aztec, which will be a big problem map for him. So KT might have enough faith in Flash to just place him last to have him hopefully dominate Bisu.

Now there is one real problem area for KT. Aztec. Aztec seems to favor Protoss, so should Flash come out on this map, Bisu should knock him down easy. But the thing is that fantasy has a 4-1 record against Protoss on this map, destroying Snow, Jaehoon, Tempest, and Stork. So I'd say that he has a fair chance of taking down Stats on this map, should he meet him. So where to send out Stats? Perhaps the most prudent choice might be to send out Stats early, to reduce the opportunity of a fantasy snipe. So Flash would just practice on the last 3-4 maps, which would reduce the uncertainties that he'd have to face.

But while the maps essentially determine where Flash is getting sent out, they are also the kink in SKT’s plans. The early maps are Bloody Ridge -> Fortress -> Icarus. Both Bloody Ridge and Icarus are Zerg favored, and KT has traditionally fielded Crazy-Hydra or Action on those two maps. Now the question is who to field on these maps? I can't really say that SKT has a good XvZ specialist other than Bisu, so their best chance on these maps might be to counter fire with fire and send out s2 or another one of their Zergs. However, Fortress is a tricky map for Zergs, so if it comes down to ZvZ on Bloody Ridge, the winner might just get taken out immediately afterward.

One problem for SKT is that fantasy’s best maps are spread out among the map pool. fantasy’s style is best suited for Fortress, Circuit Breaker, and Empire of the Sun. Then what to do? My preferred option is to send fantasy out as a snipe as opposed to a mainstay of the team. In fact, if fantasy trains to snipe Stats, I’m confident that he’ll put up a good fight against him on any of the last four maps. Best case scenario is if fantasy can face down Stats on Aztec, and given that SKT will likely throw their Zergs out early in the game, fantasy should have a good chance of facing Stats on Aztec.

SKT will undoubtedly get stronger as the match progresses, but the early maps are a problem for them. I feel that if SKT is able to get one win on the first three games, then they will be able to make the series close, and that it will come down to either a 4:3 SKT or 4:3 KT. However, if SKT is unable to nab a win on the first two/three maps, then KT will come out on top 4:2 or possibly 4:1.

tree.hugger
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Both teams will be reluctant to commit their big guns until they absolutely have to. It's going seven games, and will depend on Flash vs Fantasy. SKT wins 4-3 if fantasy plays after Bisu.


Staff Members favoring KT

KT 4:3
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(P)Bisu Bloody Ridge (Z)Action
(P)Bisu Fortress SE (P)Stats
(Z)s2 Icarus (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy Circuit Breaker (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy Aztec (Z)Crazy-Hydra
(T)Fantasy La Mancha (T)Flash
(T)Ssak Empire of the Sun (T)Flash

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KT 4-3, bisu and fantasy only have 1 win combined

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(P)By.Sun < (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy < (P)Stats
(Z)s2 > (P)Stats
(Z)s2 > (Z)Action
(Z)s2 < (Z)Crazy-Hydra
(P)Bisu > (Z)Crazy-Hydra
(P)Bisu < (T)Flash

KT 4:2
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KT 4-0 YellOw all-kill

(KT 4-2, Bisu/Fantasy each 1K)

KT 4:1
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KT 4:0
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Flash 4-0.


Staff Members favoring SKT


SKT 4:3
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I'd like to see SKT 4-3, but I think KT will actually pull it off and win

But put me down as SKT 4-3

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This will be an epic battle between the two telecom companies. Crazy-Hydra and Flash will bring the series to a dead even. However, a hero will emerge from the Best, Bisu and Fantasy trio, and he will bring victory to SKT. SKT 4-3.

SKT 4:2
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s2 will all-kill KTrash. More seriously I'm hoping for a SKT 4-2.

SKT 4:1
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SKT 4:0
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Bisu will all-kill

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Fan Interviews
By mustaju.

1) It’s Winners League finals time! Be honest, did you expect the finals to turn out this way in the beginning of round 3?

Lightwip: Sort of. KT would obviously make it to the top, as WL is their strength. But SKT isn't the best sometimes in WL, though it certainly didn't surprise me how it ended up. It was neither unlikely nor guaranteed to happen.

moopie: I was definitely hoping for it, but I was extremely impressed with (P)Stats, (Z)Action and the rest of KT. To a certain extent everybody figured (T)Flash would carry the team through SWL (again), but in the end he didn't even get to play that much.

2) Both those teams have an extensive history of reaching the finals and the rivalry is very well known. But the mere fact that THESE two teams feature so often means the other teams must be doing something wrong. What is it that separates KT/SKT from the rest?

Lightwip: Quite simply, it's because the other teams just aren't as good. Each of these teams has an ace and a supporting cast that can help them out in WL. In PL, SKT is known for its depth, and KT had a pretty good run last year. It's no surprise that these two teams can meet fairly often. I hope it doesn't turn into the disappointment that (T)Flash vs (Z)Jaedong has become though; that matchup has deteriorated into a series of disappointing games.

moopie: The biggest thing is probably consistency of their star players. Knowing you have a player like (T)Flash/(P)Bisu behind you lets the starting players play more at ease as we saw from KT this SWL. The second point is coaching. KT and SKT have some of the best coaching staffs in the scene which plays a huge role in predicting matchups and preparing the rest of their players accordingly. Lastly, it comes down to nerves. Going up against a team like KT/SKT is a pretty daunting endeavour and we often see rival teams choke in games they really shouldn't.

3) Historically, SK Telecom T1 has had the upper hand. However, lately, KT won their first Proleague title and Winners League title. Do you think we’re witnessing a new trend or an outlier? Or maybe even a third option, where teams are starting to replace KT/SKT?

Lightwip: The answer is quite simple: KT found their means to success while SKT's were deteriorating with the slump of (P)Bisu and the inconsistency of Best and (T)Fantasy. Seeing a legitimate chance for victory probably led the KT players to work harder too. Though in recent times, it's seemed as if KT has had a few troubles with the loss of (Z)Luxury, (P)Violet(get well soon!), and (T)fOrGG, while SKT's (P)Bisu and the zergs have slowly been showing more. It doesn't seem that they are quite as strong as they could be, but they're starting to get better.

moopie: Ever since last SWL KT stepped up and have dethroned SKT. This SWL finals shouldn't be any different. While these two teams are constantly at the top, their lead in both rankings and skills isn't too far ahead of the competition. There are so many teams with solid lineups this season that I wouldn't be surprised if the SPL finals give us something new to see.

4) Will the Kong curse play a role in the outcome of the match? Or is it just silly superstition?

Lightwip:The Kong has been losing followers recently. (P)Stork left with his OSL win against another Kong, and (T)Fantasy eventually won an OSL too. Now, still unwilling to turn to (P)JangBi,(Z)the Kong will have to curse his own team to be forever 2nd place.

moopie: Normally I'd be afraid to tempt the gods by calling it a superstition, but fortunately (T)god is on KT so they should be ok. I would love to see (Z)YellOw come out and help prove he isn't cursed anymore.

5) From the past and the future into the present: in a recent interview, Coach Park of SKT claimed he attempts to outthink KT this time around, and (P)Bisu stated that they have a special strategy in store to snipe (T)Flash. Is this a poker-face or will the SKT-preparation strike again? And if it isn’t mere talk, who will do the sniping attempt?

Lightwip:I think that the games won't really feature any strange plays, just standard games. For SKT to win, they really have to play consistently throughout the whole series; (T)Flash is not an unbeatable opponent. The only preparation that will be needed is preparation for a standard management game. As long as the rest of the team is taken care of in a reasonable fashion, then there won't be much trouble.

moopie: The interviews read to me as pretty standard, so they don't really affect the outcome of the match. While this match could potentially go either way, attempting to out-think the opposing team and sniping their lineup is pretty standard. As for (P)Bisu, he said that every time he loses to (T)Flash he learns from it... well, he ought to be pretty knowledgeable by now then.

I look forward to seeing the two of them face off again.

6) This question has been asked in the former PL finals interview, but let’s ask it anyway, since quite a bit has changed. The least prominent part of both teams lineups are the Zergs. KT Zerg or SKT Zerg?

Lightwip: That would be a hard question to answer. While (Z)Action has better vT, (Z)s2 has better vZ, and both are prone to utter idiotic failure. I'll give it to SKT though because there's more of them, and at least 1 can usually play at a competent level, while KT is often left with no zergs.

moopie: KT Zergs all the way. (Z)Action finished slumping in SWL, (Z)rOo is getting better and with (Z)YellOw helping them out they're only going to go higher. (Z)Crazy-Hydra will hopefully avoid the curse and prove to be a major asset as well.

7)(T)Fantasy is currently almost as hot as (P)Bisu was in Round 3. (P)Bisu has been no slouch either, though, eliminating (Z)Jaedong in a spectacular PvZ. (P)Stats, however, lost his MSL group 0-2, just like (Z)Action. Only (T)Flash remains in the MSL, while SKT has 3 players there. Will this finals herald the return of KTFlash and a murderous spree for SKT in round 5? What will happen after the match in Proleague proper?

Lightwip: SKT isn't as well off as they were a bit earlier, but they should recover in time to have a nice Round 5. KT may very well be KTFlash soon after, just like they did in Round 1 after appearing very strong. I expect both to do equally well for a short time, and then SKT surpassing KT after that.

moopie: I'm not too worried about this series just because of the MST outcomes. People have bad days from time to time, I still expect (P)Stats to perform in the SWL finals. As for SPL, KT's lineup did suffer for a while after losing both (P)Violet and (T)fOrGG (and (Z)Luxury last year) but KT has bounced back pretty well. Acquiring (Z)Crazy-Hydra will help a lot in round 5 as well. With any luck the performance of rounds 1 and 2 will just be a distant memory.

8) Both of you have been extremely critical ofthe opposing team at times. But let’s give the opposing team a chance. What could SKT/KT potentially do to redeem themselves in your eyes, bar immediate disbandment?

Lightwip: Two of their key lineup players are what really annoy me: (P)Stats and (T)Flash. If they were to be replaced with more likeable characters, though I doubt this will happen for quite a few years. I suppose a problem like that is hard to solve, though I doubt I would've been a fan of the (T)Oov-(T)Midas-(T)BoxeR SKT had I been around back then.

moopie: Having (P)BeSt back in form would be the biggest redeeming quality in my eyes. That aside I'd like to see SKT bring out more fresh faces to their lineups. (T)Ssak has stepped up a bit recently, but (P)Paralyze and (Z)n.Die_soO have been no shows. I hope some of their draft recruits will show nice results in the future.

9)Analyse the maporder and predict the moves of the teams. It has been pointed out already, that it is extremely hard for a Terran to Allkill, but a Terran of Flash’s/Fantasy’s calibre could still do it.

Lightwip: The maps don't look very AK-friendly. The only place I could see a terran making an AK is if they caught a protoss on Icarus and then had some remarkably good play on Aztec and La Mancha. I doubt we'll see an all-kill.

moopie: This could go a lot of ways depending on how the opening match ends. I expect (P)Stats out first for KT. SKT might send out (T)Ssak first to try to snipe him (another 2 fac perhaps?). (T)Fantasy will probably be sent out on the Fortress/Icarus if needed, and (P)Bisu on Circuit Breaker/Aztec. Assuming KT can get at least 2 kills early (T)Flash won't be showing up until map 6. (P)BeSt will be saved for (T)Flash.

10)Who will surprise the most in this final of the non-aces? Or will the teams just play it plain and safe?

Lightwip: Best could potentially come back and impress us, but I don't really think there's that many players this time that are going to make a surprisingly powerful appearance. (Z)s2, (T)Ssak, and (Z)Action might, but I seriously doubt it.

moopie: I think KT's players will mostly play it safe, hopefully scouting early and often for cheese/proxies/all-ins. As for who will surprise, I'm very curious to see how (Z)Crazy-Hydra will do (assuming he plays). Just prior to his transition he AK'd MBC, so I have high hopes.

11) Finally, any last words and cheers for fellow fans?

Lightwip: Bring back Fighting Spirit!

moopie:Time to break the (Z)Kong curse once and for all :D


Special thanks to Lightwip and moopie for participating in the fan interview. Also, thanks to _romantic for compiling the Winner's League finals post together -- please check out his thread for some more additional hype!


With all this to look forward to, you couldn't possibly look forward to more, right? But here is something more -- the return of Odds and Ends. Everyone welcome Spica on the team -- our new writer who will be bringing us the latest tidbits from the Brood War scene in Korea!

Return of Odds and Ends
by Spica

With the situation of getting more and more hung up with real life events, Milkis had to find a successor that would continue to bring everyone BW news. But who could he pick from the great, massive sea of users out there? After setting his sights on one potential user, he decided to approach them. Little did he know that it was going to be a hard struggle to recruit them in one of the biggest, most uphill battles in LR history. But in the end, they grudgingly decided to accept the position of news writer and help contribute to the PL write ups. They still consider themselves as 1:0 against Milkis though.

Hello, I'm Spica, your new news writer, bringing everyone fun, minor news from the Korean BW scene! I'll be delivering unposted news that aren't considered "important" enough for a thread by itself, so the saying, "One man's junk is another man's treasure" certainly applies here. But to all fans of BW, no piece of news deserves to be considered as trivial junk, yes? On that note, please enjoy this section as a new feature to keep you up to date with the latest news of your favorite teams!

Random Team Events

  • Samsung KHAN and STX SouL went bowling together on the 22nd, the day after Samsung lost to STX in in Winner's League. STX originally suggested playing soccer, but Samsung refused and told STX that it was either bowling or bust, since soccer is… pretty much Samsung’s worst sport. Samsung successfully got their revenge and won 3:0 against STX with the help of their bowling bonjwa oDin, who can apparently score up to more than 160 points in one game. Kal promised that STX would get their revenge next time in a game of soccer instead of bowling.
  • WeMade FOX went to see a play at a cultural arts performing center on the 23rd as a reward for winning their last 2 matches in WL and to relieve some stress and have a fun time in general. WeMade FOX’s Midas said, “By watching a fun play, we were able to refresh our worn-out bodies and minds from WL” and, “By changing our attitudes, we will do our best to show even better performances in Rounds 5 and 6.”
  • Flash and Reach, along with various other Korean celebrities such as 2PM, Big Bang, and Kara, are participating in the "Pray for Japan" relay, where Korean stars send messages of hope to the victims of the recent disasters in Japan. Flash's message to the people in Japan was, "I will pray for those that have been affected by the earthquakes," and Reach said, "Let's have a fresh new start. Please keep up your strength."
  • Woongjin Stars bid Crazy-Hydra goodbye on the 29th with a special lunch party. The menu consisted of Crazy-Hydra's favorite foods such as the famous Hanwoo beef (which can cost 3 times as much as U.S. beef imports). Crazy-Hydra could not conceal his happiness and said to his now former team, "I had a really good time in the 2 years I spent together with such great teammates, coaching staff, and general director. I will do my best to become a player that is proud to be from Woongjin Stars in KT."
  • KT Rolster received 20 iPads on the 30th (equivalent to 1 million won or around $920) from the head of KT sports teams as a reward for doing well in Winners' League and for getting to the finals. Flash, however, is hungry for bigger prizes and has his eyes set on the iPad 2 and iPhone 5, both of which aren't even sold in Korea yet. Flash stated, "By winning the Proleague 10-11 season championship and sweeping both the individual league titles, I will aim for even bigger prizes," and, "If I come out on top in Proleague and in the individual leagues, it will be extraordinary for KT. For the sake of my glory and the company's honor, I will stand at the top again."
  • Woongjin Stars and WeMade FOX played a friendly soccer match against each other on the 31st, with Woongjin getting destroyed by FOX 12:3, counting the suicide goal FOX player Moon made. The teams played with the stakes of fried chicken on the line, and in the end ZerO agreed to buy chicken for everyone. Woongjin apparently needs more exercise because they got tired in the middle of the game, and they have promised they will raise their strength and play better in their next soccer match.
  • Hite Entus is planning on holding a fan meeting on the 10th at Yongsan's iPark Mall and have invited around 500 fans. Commentator TheMarine who recently got discharged from the military will also be there. There will be events such as a player talent show, talk show, speed quiz, luck-based games, and a uniform bazaar. The proceeds of the fan meeting will go directly to the needy, and there will also be various gifts prepared for those who come.
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Coach Park: *Looking over at Coach Lee's snazzy new iPad and thinking* "Man... We gotta beat KT in the finals so that they don't rub it in that they have better skill and technology than us."

Team Workshops/Team Vacations

  • KT Rolster went to Duksan Spa Castle (yes, that's really the name of the place) for 1 night and 2 days on the 30th and 31st and held a workshop there in order to go over strategies for their match against SK Telecom in the Winners' League finals on the 9th, improve their teamwork, and to have a fun time in general. Photoset
  • MBC Game also went and held a workshop at Duksan Spa Castle for 2 nights and 3 days on the 4th to the 6th. Photoset
  • Woongjin Stars is planning on going mountain climbing in order to strengthen their teamwork.
  • Samsung KHAN and WeMade FOX are still deciding what they are planning to do, but will definitely hold a workshop for their players.
  • STX SouL apparently still haven't planned out a workshop for their players, but in order to make up for that due to the lack of time, they have let their players take their own vacations in order to get some rest and regain their strength.
  • Air Force ACE have gotten some time off to rest, and are carrying on with their military duties as usual and currently practicing hard in order to advance to the Proleague post-season.
  • Hite Entus held a workshop at Hoengseong in Kangwon-do for 2 nights and 3 days on the 5th to the 7th in order to discuss their strong and weak points in Proleague and come up with strategies for Rounds 5 and 6. They also had a rehearsal for their upcoming fan meeting, watched past videos of players winning championships (Stork in particular), played sports such as soccer and badminton, and had an overall relaxing time. Effort participated in the workshop as well. Photoset 1, 2
  • Hwaseung OZ held a workshop at Yangpyung, Gyeonggi-do on the 5th and 6th in order to improve their teamwork, refresh their minds and bodies, and think of strategies for Rounds 5 and 6. The workshop was also held in order for the members on the A-team to become closer to the new recruits picked up from the recent rookie draft and help them prepare for their debuts in Rounds 5 and 6. Photoset
  • SK Telecom is planning on participating in the MBC Hangang Marathon on the 10th, the morning right after the Winners' League finals on the 9th. They will be running the 5 km course in order to discipline themselves and improve their self-restraint. After running the marathon, they will go hold a workshop for 1 night and 2 days in the area around Gyeonggi-do.
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It seems that all Zerg champions make similar facial expressions when they play football. Take this comparison to JulyZerg, for instance.

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Coincidence? I think not.



Winner's League will finally be over today. But let's not forget -- we still have two more rounds of goodness before this season is over! That's 10 more weeks of some high-end Brood War -- something to definitely look forward to. And of course, we are looking to see which teams will stand on the grandest stage at the end.



Writeup brought to you by the Proleague Writing Team. Thanks to Antoine again and again for the charts and tables. Thanks to disciple for keeping us constantly hyped with amazing posters. Make sure to check out our recruitment thread if you're interested in contributing in the future! We are currently looking for someone who has an indepth knowledge of builds and trends in Brood War -- if you meet this qualifications, please apply!
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 20:54:36
April 08 2011 20:42 GMT
#2
HYPE! LETS DO THIS!

Man those Ipads are crazy, lucky bastards.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 20:47:02
April 08 2011 20:45 GMT
#3
Awww yeah.

God I always love seeing this picture.

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yeti
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States258 Posts
April 08 2011 20:45 GMT
#4
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lol, most epic boot ever!
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RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
April 08 2011 20:47 GMT
#5
I highly expect and anticipate a Bisu Reverse All Kill
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
April 08 2011 20:51 GMT
#6
It's so ... big. Really puts me in the mood for the finals.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 08 2011 20:54 GMT
#7
I want SKT to win so bad but I don't think they can overcome KT. Should still be an absolutely amazing series though.
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
April 08 2011 20:55 GMT
#8
Haha nice write up, when Bisu all kills, Xxio and I will come for you Milkis for making fun of our prediction!
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bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 20:56:31
April 08 2011 20:56 GMT
#9
Effort's Kick made my day, the face of a true OSL champion lol
Awesome writeup, Gonna be 4-2 KT!
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
April 08 2011 21:09 GMT
#10
July/Effort ftw. Freaking epic writeup.
arcfyr
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada121 Posts
April 08 2011 21:14 GMT
#11
Thanks so much for the writeup! Can't wait for the finals.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 21:16:51
April 08 2011 21:15 GMT
#12
So pumped for this, really just rooting for some good games!
(If KT loses we can always blame the Kong curse. If KT wins SKT fans can only go FFUUUU)
:)
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 08 2011 21:19 GMT
#13
Yay for "Return of Odds and Ends" =)
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
April 08 2011 21:23 GMT
#14
Good writeup as always thankyou for the coverage, excellent hype!
Bring on finals now my friends
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 08 2011 21:24 GMT
#15
Thanks so much.

Damn Bisu. 21-3 vs Zerg. damn
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 08 2011 21:25 GMT
#16
Amazing writeup as usual TL writers. Congratulations on your new spot Spica. KT 4-2 ezpz
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
April 08 2011 21:31 GMT
#17
man u guys are so good at stirring up hype. XD
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 08 2011 21:33 GMT
#18
oh man that short story was great XD
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tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
April 08 2011 21:36 GMT
#19
I am expecting epic matches!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the great write-up. I really enjoyed it!
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DarkGeneral
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada328 Posts
April 08 2011 21:37 GMT
#20
Its heartwarming to still see content about Sc1.

Reminds me of the good old days. Though I'm all about Sc2 now.

Keep up the good work.
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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
April 08 2011 21:37 GMT
#21
Oh god, the Effort picture...

That HAS to be staged as a parody of July
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Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
April 08 2011 21:38 GMT
#22
Wow, great article. This got me feeling nostalgic and hyped. skt vs kt is really the best proleague/swl finals you can ask for. Their past rivalaries speak for itself.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 08 2011 21:39 GMT
#23
sick writeup guys. gogogo KT :D

and spica, why are you referring to yourself in the third person plural o_O
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 08 2011 21:41 GMT
#24
Badass opening graphic
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
April 08 2011 21:59 GMT
#25
KT will win just because the number one seed pro-team always win in the grand final T_T.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
April 08 2011 22:04 GMT
#26
Congrats on making the writing team spica, I expect good things.

Hak for all kill. He must have something to offer! (that was my favorite part, made me laugh even more than the effort pic)
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 08 2011 22:05 GMT
#27
I don't care who wins. I just want to see Flash/Bisu domination in a very close 4:3 series that lasts well into the night/morning.

What we have here is the greatest Proleague matchup that you can have today. Here's hoping for the greatest matchup to produce the greatest series with the greatest games.
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zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
April 08 2011 22:05 GMT
#28
omg can't wait
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
April 08 2011 22:06 GMT
#29
wow, what a massive writeup
i loved the fantasy fanfiction lol
yay for the return of odds and ends!
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
April 08 2011 22:16 GMT
#30
It can't get better than this. A truly privileged time to be a BW fan!

Also, epic news! And fuck yeah, the return of Odds and Ends.
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StanzA
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada478 Posts
April 08 2011 22:18 GMT
#31
Well that was a monster of a writeup, great job!

I'm only half excited with oz out and I don't like skt's chances, but I'm sure it'll be an epic final.
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
April 08 2011 22:20 GMT
#32
very nice to know after switching to sc2 that bisu is still going strong, i hope his build takes flash down
Troxior
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States168 Posts
April 08 2011 22:21 GMT
#33
I already love spica more than I did before. That comparison of zerg champions and soccer was amazing hahaha. But holy shit the amount of hype and writing its awesome!!
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 08 2011 22:25 GMT
#34
Happy to have Odds and Ends back.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 08 2011 22:36 GMT
#35
On April 09 2011 06:39 ]343[ wrote:
sick writeup guys. gogogo KT :D

and spica, why are you referring to yourself in the third person plural o_O


Spica is legion
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 22:51:53
April 08 2011 22:51 GMT
#36
I was kinda disappointed at Bisu vs. Jaedong as well, those mutas took sooooo many hits and just didn't do anything. Hope next time they meet they're both playing their best cause pvz is so fun to watch.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
April 08 2011 22:57 GMT
#37
Great write-up! I had a really fun time reading Spica's column, got me hyped for the finals!
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 23:09:36
April 08 2011 23:08 GMT
#38
Man, oov, Reach, and YellOw look pimping in that poster - though he's like half a foot taller than both of them irl.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 08 2011 23:09 GMT
#39
Wow, that was a long write up. Enjoyed it a lot.

Of course, we all know SKT1 is going to win! :D
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pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
April 08 2011 23:14 GMT
#40
KT in my liquibet.
As much I hate Broodwar TvT's Please let it be some Fantasy v. Flash action!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 23:17:22
April 08 2011 23:16 GMT
#41
Nice writeup.

HURR DURR Nevermind. I forgot. :x
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
April 08 2011 23:17 GMT
#42
hahahahha i loved this writeup just woke up and omfg i somehow lold hard at Bunkie " molesting girls " and "white man" hahahahhahaha
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slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
April 08 2011 23:19 GMT
#43
HYPUUUUU!!!

can't wait to see bee-suit roll KT
jaedong imba
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
April 08 2011 23:37 GMT
#44
Nice write up, but it would be nice to see lineups in a preview. I don't follow BW that closely anymore, so I'm not that familiar with the teams. I know I can go look it up, but seems like they should be right there a the top of a preview.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 08 2011 23:46 GMT
#45
Good write-up really, I love that you guys do this, lol @ the White guy into GG btw. That being said, cheering for KT today(for once) because they said that they want to win it for Reach and Yellow, and they deserve it.....finally.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
April 08 2011 23:55 GMT
#46
I find it very odd to see Milkis hyping Bisu in such a positive manner
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
April 09 2011 00:08 GMT
#47
Wow incredible hype thread. Awesome job, as if I wasnt already pumped enough for this!
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
April 09 2011 00:09 GMT
#48
Great write up and can't wait for the event!
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Zholistic
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 00:15:16
April 09 2011 00:14 GMT
#49
He who controls the spica controls the universe.
"Scissors are overpowered. Rock is fine." -Paper
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
April 09 2011 00:26 GMT
#50
Effort's and July's football pictures look so freaking hilarious. rofled for like 10 minutes.

KT 4-2
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 00:26:58
April 09 2011 00:26 GMT
#51
SKT Fighting!! Go Bisu!!

Excellent write-up. I am really looking forward to these games.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Sd13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Vietnam185 Posts
April 09 2011 00:37 GMT
#52
White man into gg and bunkie molesting into gg, lmao.

Thx for extreme hype write up with many infos
정명훈 \m/
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
April 09 2011 00:57 GMT
#53
TSL and SWL this weekend? :D :D :D
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 09 2011 00:58 GMT
#54
Supplanted by Moopie.
Remember Violet.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
April 09 2011 01:01 GMT
#55
Sick write-up.

I'm predicting SKT 4-2. s2 1-kill followed by Fantasy 2-kill and Bisu>Flash in ace.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
April 09 2011 01:17 GMT
#56
On April 09 2011 08:37 Loophole wrote:
Nice write up, but it would be nice to see lineups in a preview. I don't follow BW that closely anymore, so I'm not that familiar with the teams. I know I can go look it up, but seems like they should be right there a the top of a preview.

its winner's league, the coaches choose who to send out on the fly
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
April 09 2011 01:18 GMT
#57
Haha those soccer pictures are sweet. Also great job on the write-up. you guys are amazing!
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 09 2011 01:20 GMT
#58
Can't get enough of these.
the story. is manga worthy.

I thought Milkis had disdain for Bisu and T1 lol

and where did swan go?
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swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
April 09 2011 01:47 GMT
#59
On April 09 2011 10:20 Taekwon wrote:
Can't get enough of these.
the story. is manga worthy.

I thought Milkis had disdain for Bisu and T1 lol

and where did swan go?

swan hates both KT and SKT and thus had no motivation whatsoever to write anything sadly


I'll be back for our next proleague update don't worry
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skooks
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany58 Posts
April 09 2011 01:47 GMT
#60
oh boy.... learn football from the germans ^^
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 09 2011 02:00 GMT
#61
It's disappointing that Jaedong didn't play as well in the Ace match. He shouldn't have made more zerglings after the initial 6 so he could have a better economy to defend against Bisu's relentless attacks. Still a good game nonetheless.

Too bad for SKT... despite all the work they did, they will just get destroyed by KT
Brood War loyalist
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 09 2011 02:01 GMT
#62
Thank you so much for the read up ^^ can't wait for Skt1 v kt SHOW DOWN TONIGHT !
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
April 09 2011 02:04 GMT
#63
Bisu power!
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
April 09 2011 02:14 GMT
#64
I love seeing such well written and in depth BW write ups. I keep looking for my MSL Group of Death poll but all I see is SC2... it's pretty depressing. Though to be fair, a group of death poll would be kind of pointless. :p (hint: it's D)

So psyched for the finals! I'm rooting for SKT, but either way I'm hoping for some epic games. It would be cool to see BeSt return, but I doubt that they'd want to put so much pressure on him in his first game in so long. Bisu's PvT is historically made fun of quite a bit, but considering his current form I wouldn't doubt his ability to take down Flash, though I'd rather leave that to Fantasy.

I can't wait for this! I tried watching some SC2 during the down time, but honest to god it nearly bored me to tears. BW for life!
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
April 09 2011 02:19 GMT
#65
HYPE HYPE HYPE

It's been a while since I watched bw as I've been busy lately, but no way am I missing this
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
April 09 2011 02:35 GMT
#66
Proleague finals starting at 3am? NO PROBLEM. IM THERE.
Hyped for this matchup!
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 09 2011 02:40 GMT
#67
On April 09 2011 08:55 ArvickHero wrote:
I find it very odd to see Milkis hyping Bisu in such a positive manner

On April 09 2011 10:20 Taekwon wrote:
I thought Milkis had disdain for Bisu and T1 lol


It's almost as if I lost a bet or something!

But no, I didn't lose a bet. I don't actually dislike SKT -- that question "Why do you hate SKT so much" is actually one of the first questions anyone asks me lol. SKT is just a fun team to poke fun because of how easy it is and because of their fans. I don't actually dislike Bisu either (the only progamers i disliked was Light for 8raxing Baby 2x during playoffs and Fantasy for his pompous arrogance but I've grown to like them both).
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
April 09 2011 02:42 GMT
#68
Awesome write, only 6 more hours!!!!!
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haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
April 09 2011 03:18 GMT
#69
SKT
conTAgi0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States335 Posts
April 09 2011 03:30 GMT
#70
Wow, SPL team really on a roll lately, these past three write ups have been quite outstanding.

I really liked tree.hugger's short story too. It would be awesome if that became a regular/semi-regular feature.

Also thrilled to see the return of odds and ends, major props Spica :D
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
April 09 2011 03:34 GMT
#71
the short story was great and thank you for write up. awesome.

It will be epic final and can't wait :D

Ipad= i want it too.
Learn,live and love it.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
April 09 2011 03:35 GMT
#72
Great write-up guys, thank-you all. Perfect preparation for the upcoming match this evening.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 09 2011 03:44 GMT
#73
hmmm....I still don't understand how there was no mention of the combined efforts of Coach Park and Oov to have ssak play the first set with the sole mention of sniping stats/action.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
April 09 2011 05:39 GMT
#74
Is there any way to watch this live? bw noob soz
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 09 2011 05:56 GMT
#75
also grats to spica!
was it t1 vs hite nite?
..
i wanna do a fan interview too one day n_n
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
April 09 2011 06:26 GMT
#76
On April 09 2011 14:39 L3gendary wrote:
Is there any way to watch this live? bw noob soz

There'll be a stream link below the calendar.
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Terrorterran
Profile Joined January 2009
Peru256 Posts
April 09 2011 08:00 GMT
#77
Amazing write-up. 2 hours before it starts go KT!
GG
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
April 09 2011 08:38 GMT
#78
Epic write-up. Wtf lol at fantasy fantasy
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
knightwulf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada174 Posts
April 09 2011 11:04 GMT
#79
Such a great article. I haven't played scbw since i was very young. These well told stories of heroics make me want to find that disc. Very well done. I wish i could find lores like this for sc2.
SuPerFlyTNT
Profile Joined November 2010
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 17:21:21
April 09 2011 17:20 GMT
#80
When is this actually on? Is it possible to watch live?

I'm pretty sure it already happened but I'm not sure.
Every time my fingers touch brains.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 09 2011 21:23 GMT
#81
totally should have moved the bisu hype article for next week's, it would have been 100% more fitting :O
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 09 2011 22:42 GMT
#82
Was a pretty cool finals. Good tournament to watch for my first BW tournament. Got to see + Show Spoiler +
Bisu vs Flash too! :D
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
April 10 2011 08:36 GMT
#83
Aesop is a fuckin prophet lol
Writerptrk
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
April 10 2011 11:13 GMT
#84
On April 10 2011 17:36 ArvickHero wrote:
Aesop is a fuckin prophet lol

Finally some recognition!
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
where
Profile Joined February 2011
144 Posts
April 10 2011 18:28 GMT
#85
On April 09 2011 05:45 yeti wrote:
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lol, most epic boot ever!


effort! epic
funnybananaman
Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
April 12 2011 22:24 GMT
#86
Fantastic writeup, great articles overall :D I really enjoyed the SKT1 house fiction thing with the rookie Hak and dual personality fantasy, that was fucking hilarious haha. Only one criticism, i don't particularly agree with Mystlord's analysis of the game between Fatnasy and Jaedong.

Jaedong definitely did not "pull out a trick (2 hatch muta) to crush fantasys vulture play", since Fantasy did a quite unorthodox build (2 fac vulture speed) that we don't see him or anyone do very often. Jaedong definitely did not anticipate it since he didn't scout much and wasn't very prepared to stop the runby when it came, and JD almost assuredly decided to go 2 hatch muta at the start of the game since its extremely good in ZvT on icarus, hence part of the reason why the map isn't terran favored.

Instead it was Fantasy doing the 2 fac vulture speed build because he anticipated and then quickly scouted Jaedong's 2 hatch muta. Its the logical thing for JD to do on that map. Plus 2 fac vulture speed is designed as a counter build to 2 hatch muta (and virtually only to 2 hatch muta) anyway, not the other way around, so it makes no sense to say Jaedong was reacting to Fantasy.
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