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KPGA Tour Team League Update

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33488 Posts
January 29 2003 16:04 GMT
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Week 2 of the KPGA Tour Team League exhibitions. This time, it was the Dream Team versus the Greatest Ones (GO). Oh, everyone's favorite Dutchman, Nazgul, was on the Dream Team ;O

Dream Team: Nazgul(p), Grrr...(p), V-Gundam(t), Jinnam(z)
The separated group of pro-gamers under one manager. Let loose to do whatever they please, they are brought together in times of dire need (like when they need to kick another team's ass for money).

Greatest Ones: Xellos(t), Chrh(t), Nal_Ra(p), forU(p)
A more traditional "team" than their adversaries. Full of extremely skilled players, who just have some strange hex when they go on TV. And they all look marvelous in their navy suits!



Game 1: Xellos vs Nazgul on Plains to Hill D

This report is longer than the rest, because everyone here seems to care so much about Naz. Xellos started 11:00, while Naz started at 1:00. Naz got off to a good start, when Xellos's scouting SCV missed his base even though it made it's way there first. Nazgul has made his pylon and gateway to the side, so Xellos, who wasn't scouting deep, had to re-check all of the mains.

Both players were thinking of the same thing early on: Island expanding. Nazgul went for a fast robotics bay and shuttle, while Xellos went for a quick dropship as well. Nazgul's first shuttle went to the 3:00 and 6:00 islands, dropping off probes. A nexus was warped in at 3:00 soon after. Xellos loaded his first dropship with an SCV, sending it off to the 9:00. Xellos had done a little preparing, his engineering bay had been built close to the 3:00 and floated there seeing the warping nexus. He loaded up 2 tanks and went for a drop.

With nothing but a warping nexus and a pylon, Xellos went about shooting the pylon while Naz ferried goons up to his isle. When the goons came to kill the tanks, Xellos tried to make a quick retreat, but ended up losing his dropship and tanks. Xellos built a CC at his 9:00 during this time. Naz, on the

other hand, made more shuttles and teched up to shuttle speed.

As both players built up, Xellos tried another drop. This time it was 4 tanks. The tanks shot a few probes, before Naz promptly sent shuttles full of reinforcements, which forced Xellos to run again. Not to be daunted, Xellos continued to make more factories and started building a command center at his natural.

It was at this time that Naz caught Xellos off-guard. Nazgul sent 3 shuttles and dropped off 8 speedzeals and 2 goons in Xellos's main. Xellos was short on units, and scrambled to try to stop it best. With the units defending the choke gone, Nazgul sent troops by ground as well. As both sides traded casualties in Xellos's main, Nazgul took the 6:00 isle.

In the end, Xellos managed to save his main after losing several rounds of units from his factory. He also suffered the damage of losing the command center at his natural. After being repelled from Xellos's main, Naz followed a drop at Xellos's isle expansion. Xellos stopped this too, but not before taking heavy SCV damage. Feeling the game rapidly falling away from him, Xellos pulled out a risky maneuver, discreetly building a CC at 7:00. Later, Xellos took back his natural. Naz kept playing safely, expanding to the 5:00 main, while taking care of the 9:00 isle once and for all. The game had already entered the finishing stages.

Naz found 7:00 a little late, but not very. Xellos attempted to save it, but it was a poor choice as he outmatched on the ground. Eventually Naz started doing suicide drops into Xellos's main to free up population for 7 gate carriers. Xellos attempted a final attack, but was unable to even defeat Naz's reduced ground forces. With carriers soon upon him, Xellos conceded the game.

Nazgul defeats Xellos


Game 2: Chrh vs Grrr... on Bladestorm

Chrh started at 7:00, while Grrr started at 1:00. And now we move on to the mid game! Both players played very passively early on. The two players fast expanded (Chrh to his min nat, Grrr to his gas nat), and followed with by taking their other freebie expansion soon after. The two players branched there, Chrh being aggressive and Grrr being defensive.

Chrh started the first real aggressive movements of the game, trying to harass with vultures. Grrr continued to stay in defend & expand mode, stopping Chrh's vulture harass attempts without trouble, and taking the 11:00 gas natural as well. Chrh stepped up his attacks, adding drops to his harassment attempts. They failed to do damage, and ended up being a waste of units on Chrh's part. In the meanwhile, Grrr stayed with only dragoons for the longest time ever. Chrh started expanding to 5:00, starting command centers there, while hoping to extend defense line to cover them later.

Things didn't go Chrh's way though, Grrr choose to engage Chrh's forces whenever they started advancing too far, keeping them from taking 5:00. Chrh did get some valuable mining time from 5:00 before Grrr scouted it out, but was powerless to stop Grrr from razing it when it happened. With victory before his eyes, Grrr... took the 11:00 main, while going for many, many stargates in his main. 5:00 expansions failed, Chrh started on a CC to go to the 9:00 isle.

Chrh tried for his last chance to turn the game in his favor before the masses of carriers ran him over (floated him over). Amazingly, he still had a significantly large amount of ground troops. In a last ditch attack, he was able to crush Grrr's significantly lacking ground troops (all population in stargate carriers!). While Grrr... hung on and waited for carriers, Chrh killed the nexuses at the 11:00 and 1:00 gas naturals. Chrh desperately tried to build on that after the carriers came out.

With Grrr low on cash, Chrh sent small groups of units continuously, trying to disrupt Grrr's resources while keeping the carriers far away from himself. Grrr happily complied, sending his carriers here and there to take care of the units Chrh threw at him. In the end, Grrr proved to have chosen correctly (though we never know what would have happened otherwise), as the expansions and units Chrh built up during the harassing were not enough to take the masses of carriers. GG!

Grrr.. defeats Chrh


Game 3: Nal_Ra vs V-Gundam on Sauron

V-Gundam started at 11:00, while Nal_ra started at 5:00. V-Gundam started with what appeared to be his trademark build. Nal_ra was expecting such a thing, and prepared accordingly. He went for 3-gate range goon with ob, waiting for the marines and vultures to knock on his door. V-Gundam dealt Nal_ra a low blow, flashing 2 factories + some marines, and then expanding ASAP.

Nal_ra tried to compensate, expanding to his nat, and then to the 7:00 main. This turned out to be overcompensating. V-Gundam didn't wait very long after he expanded to attack, he sent out a moderately sized force quickly. Nal_ra did his best to try and delay V-Gundam, but it was of no use. Nal_ra had made himself vulnerable, and V-Gundam was making him pay.

With V-Gundam on the cliff overlooking his nat, Nal_ra tried hard to keep the tanks from advancing within range of the nexus. This worked to a degree, Nal_ra didn't just lie down while he lost his nat. Nal_ra prevented anymore forward advancement, which would have gone all the way into his main. V-Gundam continued to take the initiative, dropping 7:00 to do some heavy probe damage. He also double expanded to the 11:00 main and nat.

Nal_ra was down, but barely managed to hang on. He tried to counter the 11:00 expansions, while precisely stopping V-Gundam whenever he showed anything less than full attention. Tired of Nal_ra's tenacity, V-Gundam applied the final blows. Well, they should have been final blows, finishing off 7:00 and taking his main. Nal_ra still clung on the best he could, fighting until the bitter end.

V-Gundam defeats Nal_ra

Game 4: forU vs Jinnam on Sauron

Jinnam started at 7:00, while forU started at 11:00. ForU gave a preview of the unorthodox game to come, opening with 1 gate fast gas. Jinnam started playing into the scenario of "excessively plain zerg gets raped by bizarre protoss strat." He opened with 2nd hatch on ramp, and 3rd hatch at expansion soon after.

ForU went stargate first. Though Jinnam's overlord had left the toss base after seeing the cybernetics core, Jinnam prepared for corsair tech anyway. He went den, thus suffering only 1 overlord loss while hydras protected the rest. He kept minimal hydras and opted for more speedlings while teching to lair.

ForU's follow-up was a special package for Jinnam (U!), a shuttle with a reaver and 2 zealots. Unfortunately for forU, he landed at the nat, which had a meager 4 drones mining. Still bad for Jinnam, who had mainly speedlings and a few hydras. Jinnam boldly surrounded the reaver with speedlings, trying to get in as many hits as he could before the lings met their inevitable fates. The reaver and zealots focused fire at the hatchery, trying to take it down before Jinnam massed enough troops to overwhelm them. Jinnam succeeded in killing the zealots and reaver, as the shuttle was mysteriously elsewhere. Just as Jinnam's troops left, a speed shuttle arrived with another reaver to finish the job.

While Jinnam recovered and re expanded to his nat, forU hit him with another blow. This time it was combination of everything in Jinnam's main. A shuttle dropped 2 DTs and a reaver, while some zealots ran in by ground. The drop wasn't as successful as it was cute. It killed a fair amount of drones, the spire, and some units, but not quite cost effectively. Anyway, it tied up Jinnam again, and confused him about what the hell forU was doing. Meanwhile, forU expanded and cannoned up.

Jinnam had taken the blows early on, but struck back very hard. ForU had effectively thrown most of his troops at Jinnam in what turned out to be nothing more than a time buying attack, and was low on units. Jinnam showed up at forU's nat with 10+ hydras an 2 lurkers. ForU had 2 zealots and archons defending, but the supporting cannons were all placed close to the nexus. Jinnam used his lurkers to move in, staying out of cannon range. ForU kept his few ground troops near his exp, preparing for a direct attack on the natural's defenses.

Jinnam then made a very critical move. Taking a risk, he took his hydra/lurk and attacked forU's ramp. 1 cannon. Seeing no sense in trying to go up a ramp with lurkers and hydras, forU sent his zealot pair and archons to try to counter Jinnam. Jinnam delayed those easily, morphing lurkers on all the ramps on the way to his base. The hydra/lurk in forU's main went for the gateways, rather than try to attack the probes at the natural from above. ForU gave up his gates, building them anew under cannon cover. Fortunately his robotics facility was already protected by cannons, letting him build a reaver for immediate defense. He lost 4 gateways anyway. Jinnam continued cause forU pain, tearing down his expansion with his reinforcements.

Down 4 gateways, an expansion, and all the probes there, forU managed to live. The reaver from his main, and the many templar from his rebuilt gates were too much splash damage for even Jinnam to try to attack. Jinnam was forced to back off, letting forU get down to his natural and start long distance mining.

Jinnam's dilemma was that he had not expanded at all. The situation worsened when a dark templar killed the drone he had sent to 5:00. So Jinnam made a decision, it was to finish forU off using just his main and nat. Rebuilding his spire, he made mutas to try to shake up forU. ForU was not one to fall victim, however. Having been on the receiving end for the last few minutes, he was still in defend mode. Unable to attack, Jinnam focused on making an impenetrable containment force.

2 bases vs 1, where toss has all the tech and gas in the world. ForU broke out with an exclamation point, having 4 archons as his front runners. Despite the fact that he was fighting uphill, the brute power of archons and storm erased Jinnam's containment from the map. Such an impressive force was prevented from advancing, however. Jinnam used lurkers and scourge, buying himself time for other options. The dam had already burst, however. ForU simply took the long way around, taking a big circle through the map, through 1:00, 5:00, and finally 7:00. A mainly dragoon army arrived to challenge Jinnam.

During their long trip, Jinnam had prepared somewhat. He turtled in tightly at his natural. He had made a little slip though, he couldn't stop the protoss army from simply walking into his main. This was a critical hit for Jinnam, the dragoons holding the ramp could also fire down and stop mining at his nat. The other troops cleaned up the tech buildings in his main. Fortunately for Jinnam, he had taken the lower middle expansion, so he was still mining.

On the opposite side of the map, Jinnam was doing a little better. ForU had run out of cash at his natural, and had expanded to the 1:00 main. He had left the vicinity of the nexus undefended, letting 2 leftover mutas stop all resource mining. Seeing his adversary strapped for cash as well, Jinnam continued to do his best. Giving up his main and nat, he decided to his the situation to his advantage by trapping the protoss troops in his main with lurkers below the ramp. After leaving a sufficient force to keep the toss troops in place, he scrounged up what he could to try and hit protoss's only mining base.

Things did not work out for Jinnam in the end. ForU had a powerful force that he had made from the last resources at his natural, forcing Jinnam to give up on any ideas of attacking 1:00. Rather, the tables were turned as forU turned to attack the southern expansion in the middle. In a spectacular battle, Jinnam barely stopped forU's force even after being liberally sprayed with storm.

However, Jinnam had been forced pull all his troops together to stop this attack. The protoss troops holed up at the 7:00 used this break to come out. Combined with freshly warped protoss reinforcements, they went to 6:00 and received the final GG from Jinnam.

forU defeats Jinnam

Dream Team 3 : 1 Greatest Ones

AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
WaRLoRD
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands7 Posts
January 29 2003 16:38 GMT
#2
Gj Naz

and nice reports wax keep up the good work
HI~~
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
January 29 2003 17:20 GMT
#3
Nazgul, GOGOGO~~~!!!

(and man is forU good or what?! Hope to see him in the next OGN Starleague...)
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
January 29 2003 17:21 GMT
#4
...and GJ Wax. Nice report.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
J23
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)6 Posts
January 29 2003 17:55 GMT
#5
GJ naz~~go go
Senff
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States360 Posts
January 29 2003 18:09 GMT
#6
The only bad thing I wish to say to Wax is that the word "it's" is reserved for the two words, "It is". When made into the possessive form, it is "its", with no apostrophe. But other than that, this was an impressive report, and I thank you deeply! Good job Naz, and Grrr... too. Both he and ChRh seem to be in some sort of slump, but Grrr... came out on top.
Jesus: The Other White Moses
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
January 29 2003 18:09 GMT
#7
"this report is longer than the rest" u meant that for forU match report aiight
NialSihg
Profile Joined November 2002
France50 Posts
January 29 2003 18:16 GMT
#8
Guess there is not replays
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
January 29 2003 21:23 GMT
#9
Thanks for the report Wax. Was fun
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
January 29 2003 21:24 GMT
#10
GJ WAX,GJ Naz. So who is teh next victim of da dream team?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28712 Posts
January 29 2003 22:25 GMT
#11
=]
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
January 29 2003 23:14 GMT
#12
Dream team vs KTF??

Wax, you are one sexy battlereporter
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Sweden-Celidar
Profile Joined November 2002
Sweden484 Posts
January 29 2003 23:45 GMT
#13
daaaaamn so good reports thankU mensrea :D
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
January 29 2003 23:57 GMT
#14
not mensrea :/
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rvz.azrael
Profile Joined December 2002
Austria25 Posts
January 30 2003 01:18 GMT
#15
Thanks Waxangel for the report! Impressive job
e4e5f4
Profile Joined January 2003
United States65 Posts
January 30 2003 02:11 GMT
#16
Thank you, Waxangle. I really enjoyed halpmeh.com during its brief existence. What happened to it? I haven't found another sc site that can fill its shoes, not even this one. Your battle reporting is always objective and a real pleasure to read.
Mensrea on the other hand, always blows things out of proportion the way a little kid would. I'm not talking about the inability to communicate but the inability to think maturely. Grow up. Quit hyping up all these games. I'll would think more of your posts if you put less crap in them; Waxangle actually writes about a pro's decision-making process rather than personal ramblings. Whatever forU is, he is not good. Watch H.O.T give him a 0-2 record, mms://210.124.186.163/ghemtv/sleague/sl_3_03_1.wmv.
Nuttie
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland302 Posts
January 30 2003 02:15 GMT
#17
I'm impressed as usual ;]
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
January 30 2003 04:06 GMT
#18
Wow, sexy report! Keep em coming!
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 30 2003 04:35 GMT
#19
oh i forgot - anyone that hot beats is extremely bad, djeesh stupid me.
On January 30 2003 11:11 e4e5f4 wrote:
Thank you, Waxangle. I really enjoyed halpmeh.com during its brief existence. What happened to it? I haven't found another sc site that can fill its shoes, not even this one. Your battle reporting is always objective and a real pleasure to read.
Mensrea on the other hand, always blows things out of proportion the way a little kid would. I'm not talking about the inability to communicate but the inability to think maturely. Grow up. Quit hyping up all these games. I'll would think more of your posts if you put less crap in them; Waxangle actually writes about a pro's decision-making process rather than personal ramblings. Whatever forU is, he is not good. Watch H.O.T give him a 0-2 record, mms://210.124.186.163/ghemtv/sleague/sl_3_03_1.wmv.
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Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
January 30 2003 04:40 GMT
#20
ofcourse, no pro EVER lost to the likes of that newbie HOT. Man, what a newb foru is right?
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
January 30 2003 04:40 GMT
#21
BTW, I loved the report, GJ man
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3987 Posts
January 30 2003 06:07 GMT
#22
great stuff waxangel - one of the best i ever read.
NOTORIOUS_BIG
Profile Joined January 2003
United States13 Posts
January 30 2003 06:40 GMT
#23
haha ....R u ppl tryin to make Mensrea jealous or somethin? hahhaha ..Mensrea and Wax both make good reports and i enjoy readin both.
- On the other hand as Consumers or customers in a sense, we can demand more by makin them try and out do each other in their reportin..hence producing even more quality reports. If theres such a thing
So here i'll start the war...Wax great reporting..haven't read a better report eva...And i mean Eva!

Wizzra
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands514 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-30 07:14:42
January 30 2003 07:08 GMT
#24
On January 30 2003 11:11 e4e5f4 wrote:
Mensrea on the other hand, always blows things out of proportion the way a little kid would. I'm not talking about the inability to communicate but the inability to think maturely. Grow up. Quit hyping up all these games. I'll would think more of your posts if you put less crap in them;


Since when is someone immature when he tries to share his excitement? I would think more of your posts if you put less crap in them. But then again, nobody shares your opinion anyway, so you might better stop posting at all S;-)

And Wax, nice report
The responsibility of tolerance lies in those who have the wider vision.
rvz.azrael
Profile Joined December 2002
Austria25 Posts
January 30 2003 07:13 GMT
#25
I am happy with mensreas reports as well.
Teamliquid.net is actually better than halpmeh ever was but only by the suppport of waxangel.
rvz.azrael
Profile Joined December 2002
Austria25 Posts
January 30 2003 07:15 GMT
#26
@e4e5f4 If mensrea stops to post reports because of u, lots of people here would become very unhappy
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-30 07:36:31
January 30 2003 07:35 GMT
#27
Let's not make this a competition about who's the better reporter
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massive
Profile Joined January 2003
5 Posts
January 30 2003 08:49 GMT
#28
Where are the replays?
Replays Please...
Please...
massive
Profile Joined January 2003
5 Posts
January 30 2003 08:56 GMT
#29
Excuse me but where are the replays...
Report good yes, but, WE want Replays...
TheSlowHand
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)177 Posts
January 30 2003 09:04 GMT
#30
Great report !!!! Thanks

Uh.... anyone know why TheMarine did not play?
Less Filling! Great Taste !!!
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
January 30 2003 09:06 GMT
#31
On January 30 2003 11:11 e4e5f4 wrote:
Thank you, Waxangle. I really enjoyed halpmeh.com during its brief existence. What happened to it? I haven't found another sc site that can fill its shoes, not even this one. Your battle reporting is always objective and a real pleasure to read.
Mensrea on the other hand, always blows things out of proportion the way a little kid would. I'm not talking about the inability to communicate but the inability to think maturely. Grow up. Quit hyping up all these games. I'll would think more of your posts if you put less crap in them; Waxangle actually writes about a pro's decision-making process rather than personal ramblings. Whatever forU is, he is not good. Watch H.O.T give him a 0-2 record, mms://210.124.186.163/ghemtv/sleague/sl_3_03_1.wmv.



...and "I'll would think" more of YOU if you stopped making asinine assessments and just enjoyed the site. You're always free NOT to read my "personal ramblings."
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
midwich
Profile Joined December 2002
United Kingdom324 Posts
January 30 2003 12:25 GMT
#32
Excellent report, perfect result for Naz. Very pleasing
This is not a quote.
Kontra[MDK]
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal1013 Posts
January 30 2003 17:00 GMT
#33
Great report indeed. Tks for this
Somebody call for an exterminator?
t0yb0x
Profile Joined October 2002
Singapore35 Posts
January 30 2003 18:09 GMT
#34
DREAM TEAM!!!!!!!!!WOOHOO!!!!!
When you ASSUME you make an ASS out of U and ME both.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 31 2003 02:12 GMT
#35
we all know rekrul is the best anyway.

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mongo.hul
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)7 Posts
January 31 2003 03:33 GMT
#36
gj on report Wax
and Good job Naz, looks like the new western star is delivering!
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3987 Posts
December 24 2008 13:11 GMT
#37
On January 30 2003 15:07 aseq wrote:
great stuff waxangel - one of the best i ever read.


From the KPGA Tour Team League Update..tbh i can't remember anything from it.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 19:18:45
December 24 2008 19:13 GMT
#38
Was it your first post? Epic.

Edit: Oh, is this is what is going to be played for the old VOD night?
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