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The Liquid Weekly #13

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October 29th, 2010 07:50 GMT

Brought to you by the letters B L I Z Z C O and N.

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Liquid to MLG Dallas, 5th - 7th 2010


Nazgul, Tyler, Jinro, TLO, HayprO, Ret and HuK will head to Dallas next for the Major League Gaming Pro Circuit National Finals. This will be the most Liquid-attended event yet, so be sure you don't miss it! [More]

Ret and HuK to Korea, 10th/7th Nov 2010


Two of our three remaining players outside of Korea will be heading to the Liquid-oGs house in Incheon next month to take part in the GSL 3 qualifiers. [More]

HuK in EG Master's Ro16, Oct 30th 2010


TLAF-Liquid`HuK will play ViBE at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) in the Ro16 of the EG Master's tournament. [More]


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Liquid to MLG Dallas, 5th - 7th Nov 2010


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Nazgul, Tyler, Jinro, TLO, HayprO, Ret and HuK will head to Dallas next for the Major League Gaming Pro Circuit National Finals. This will be the most Liquid-attended event yet, so be sure you don't miss it! MLG spectator passes ($25) and player passes ($60) are still available.


Ret and HuK to Korea, 10th/7th Nov 2010


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Two of our three remaining players outside of Korea will be heading to the Liquid-oGs house in Incheon next month to take part in the GSL 3 qualifiers. TL is excited to see more and more of our best and brightest cross over to SC2 land, and we look forward to seeing both of them on stream soon.

Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, founder Manager of Liquid said that the team was really excited to have two more of their players in Korea. "I've rarely seen anyone as motivated to perform as Huk he is capable of producing some crazy hours in terms of gaming - the kind of crazy hours that produce results," said Goossens. "The practice environment at the Liquid-oGs house will fit him perfectly, and we have no doubt that his play will benefit greatly from exposure to the best of Korea."

Despite being around for years, and indeed, despite being in Korea before, things never really worked out for Ret in Broodwar. "Ret has been around for years, and despite his talent never got the opportunity to really go all out and prove himself," said Goossens. "We know that this stint in Korea will be a game changer for him and given the amount of tournaments and showmatches he has performed well in lately, we're certain that he will be a player to contend with. A motivated Ret is a scary opponent for anyone."


HuK in EG Master's Ro16, Oct 30th 2010


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TLAF-Liquid`HuK will play ViBE at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) in the Ro16 of the EG Master's tournament. Topping his group in the group stage, HuK looks set to deliver some destruction in the Final 16 and we hope you'll be around as usual to root for the home team here on TL!


Blizzcon - Event Finished


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In case you weren't around, last weekend was epic in terms of everything SC2. HuK and TLO went to Blizzcon, and even though they didn't perform as well as we hoped, they did have a really good time! We've got them in this weekly with pics and interviews, so jump right into Back from Blizzcon to see it all.

If you missed them, there are tons of pictures from the TL Meetup and it looks like everyone had a blast. If you missed Artosis' interview of HuK, then be sure to check it out in This Week In VODs.


HuK in Stratbunker/GiantBomb.com Showmatches, GGI - Events Finished


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HuK went 3-1 against SeleCT this week in the Strat Bunker Showmatch and then went down 2 - 1 to Machine in the GiantBomb.com Thursday Night Throwdown Unfortunately, he lost to Sen 3 - 1 in the Global Games Invite Ro8 as well.

HuK's commitment to playing as many events as possible while laddering furiously is testament to how seriously he takes the game, and we look forward to seeing this dedication pay off as he heads to Korea in just over a week!


Ret in GosuCoaching Weekly, Craft Cup, SC2Casts KOTH - Events Finished


Ret rolled this past week, winning the GosuCoaching Weekly, getting to the semi finals of Craft Cup #13 and beating Nightend in the Semi Finals to come runner up in #15 to BratOK.

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Earlier today, Ret also beat qxc 4 - 3 to retain his title as the SC2Casts.com King of The Hill. Having beaten Naniwa in last week's KOTH, Ret now heads into his third game next Thursday. Be sure to be there as our Dutchman once again fights to retain his control of the throne.

Ret has been playing consistently these past few weeks, and with Korea on the horizon we have no doubt that he'll continue to push himself in every area of his play. Having been there before, he knows that this is his chance to go all the way, and rest assured that you'll hear more from him next week as we lead up to his departure.


oGs-TL win Zotac Team League - Event Finished


Last weekend, oGs-TL put away their second Korean team league in the form of the Zotac Cup by beating team Prime in the finals.

TLAF-Liquid`Jinro was instrumental in oGS-TL's Semi-Finals win against Werra when he performed a two kill on them. Head over to This Week In Replays to watch his games.





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Last week, Liquid went to Blizzcon. Now, they have returned, and have a lot to say. Join TLO and HuK below as they tell us about their experiences at the heart of the nerd world.


TLAF-Liquid`TLO


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Hi Dario - you've had a busy week. How was it?
Indeed, I had the time of life. Even though I didn’t do too well in the tournament it was just a mind blowing experience. Blizzcon is amazing and I think it was really important for me to be there.
I think I might have lost my fire for a while since I didn’t have many tournaments in Korea and things didn’t go too well but since Blizzcon and switching to Zerg, I have a smile on my face while playing again.


Yes, and that's the big news, isn't it? TLO to Zerg! Who? Where? What? Why?
Haha, I feel stupid for having played Terran for so long now, even though a while ago I said Terran is the race that suits me best. Apparently, I was wrong. I didn’t see the endless options and unused potential Zerg had back then. In many situation as a Terran I felt like I couldn’t really do anything, while as Zerg you can basically never play perfect in my opinion. I don’t think having 500 apm as Zerg would be enough, and you know what? That sounds a lot like supreme commander to me!


You've been playing Z for a while but only went public at Blizzcon. How have these past few weeks with the swarm been for you gameplay wise?
Hmmm, I couldn’t really play Zerg a lot before Blizzcon because of GSL, and it’s really only now that I can fully embrace it and I must say it’s awesome. I come up with new styles and builds every day and some of them actually seem to work. I do quite okay in ranking games in house. Obviously my win rate is a lot lower than as a Terran still but I must say for 3 days of full Zerg practice and maybe 2 weeks of playing it a little, I am doing better than expected.


What is your favourite thing about being Z again?
What I just said - I am under constant strain when I play Zerg. You can never rest, no matter what is happening. There are always things to be done - spread creep, gain mapcontrol, fly overlords, harrass with a couple of overseers, burrow baneling, annoy with infestors, inject larva, heal units with queens, burrow units to heal. It’s sick!


If there's one thing you miss at least a little about being Terran, what is it?
Hellions and nukes. ^^


Do you think the time you spent as T will pay off in ZvT for you? How have your ZvT games so far been?
I definitely understand the match a lot better than the other too, as I obviously know the weaknesses and timings very well. Well, at least some of them - my TvZ style was not very mainstream so Bio sometimes catches me off guard.


Zerg has also undergone a few changes since you played last. What do you have to say about the Roach range increase?
I still think it’s not really necessary, at least not 4. I was hoping for a 3.5 and thought that would be more than adequate.


What about ZvZ, the matchup which is often criticised for being a pure ling/bling fest? How do you see it?
I usually aim for the late game in ZvZ, early game can be a hard sometimes but I think
ling/bling can be dealt with via roach+bling and some simcity quite effectively.


So once you get into the midgame, what is your unit composition/strategy of choice usually?
Hmmm, it’s usually a healthy mix of Roaches/infestors Zerglings and some blings and a bunch of queens.


So, the Blizzcon games. You didn't do as well as you would have liked - what happened, and what do you take away from the experience?
Well I didn't expect to do so well yet since it was a quite new experience to play Zerg again. However I should have had won those games, and it was small stupid mistakes that cost me in the end. In the first game vs Sen I had a pretty nice sim city set and then just got my roaches out of position without any reason to do it. The 2nd game I had ultralisks ready and was on equal bases I think, but instead of waiting for more infestors and ultras I attacked too early into his roach only which cost me the game.

You decided on playing Zerg long before patch 1.2 was announced. Has the new patch made you feel happy about your decision, or would you have been fine even if Terran didn't receive the early game nerfs and Roach range stayed the same?
Lets just say it makes it a lot easier for me to switch now. Playing zerg is not that hard right now so I can get into the race a little bit more comfortably again I am counting on a new patching changing things a little bit pretty soon, but I don't think its gonna make my playstyle impossible^^


You've played both foreign and Korean Zergs lately. Are there any major differences between the scenes/servers in terms of playstyle?
No not really, it felt pretty much the same to me to be honest.


Finally, let's return to your Blizzcon experience. What was your favourite part of the weekend, and what are you looking forward to the most about next year?
Being at an event at which tens of thousands of people who share the same passion! However, Blizzcon itself was nothing compared to the TL party! There are so many things I will remember from that weekend that it’s hard to even to try to make a list. It’s always a pleasure to hang with your fellow foreign progamers, and it’s really amazing how everyone gets along so well. Overall it was an overwhelming experience for me. Of course, next year the TL party will be bigger than Blizzcon itself so that’s what I am looking forward to the most!


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"Winner gets top bunk?"

"Kk Go."


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TLAF-Liquid`HuK


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Hi HuK! How was Blizzcon?
Bad that I lost, good that I had a good time otherwise. Besides losing it was the best event I've ever been to. Blizzard knows how to take care of players as far as food, room service, drugs etc. Also got to meet Boxer. <33

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Oh, yes – what was that like?
Great, he was really nice, played really well, and of course is my hero so has to be super awesome.


Well, Lim Yo Hwan is back in Korea now, but soon you'll be there as well. You're just over a week away from leaving. Everything done and good to go?
Not really I'm actually going to go do a lot of stuff tomorrow like buying luggage, getting insurance, making sure banking accounts are finished, other stuff like that. Hopefully i can get everything done.


Let's talk a bit about gameplay. How do you see the changes that took place with Patch 1.2, and what changes, if any, have you had to make in your play to adapt to them?
The Nexus buff on hp actually helps a bit. Other than that, Zerg is a lot stronger because of roaches and they are more common. Medivacs are slower which is good but they are still balanced and used a lot.
Other than that, the void ray nerf was stupid. I don’t think many people will use them ever, now. Overall nothing really changed my play too much except maybe the fact that roaches are more common so I guess in my PvZ I will have to adapt a lot.


How has your PvZ been going since we spoke last? Any improvements? Is there any build/strategy you've been focusing on in particular in this matchup?
Bad. I still win most games but it is like it used to be vs Terran, I lose to mediocre players simply because they make a lot of zergling/roachand attack move. I am getting there though, slowly but surely. Hopefully protoss can adapt better overall, but generally I'm just playing pretty standard with a lot of variations.


Are you seeing any differences in how foreigners and Koreans play Protoss in general and PvZ in particular?
Not really. I don't watch many Korean replays, although I was hoping Sangho would play FD in the GSL. Generally I think they are struggling now too.


You're known to be a mass gamer so the practice regimen in Korea wont be difficult for you. What about the ladder itself though - are there any areas of your play you feel you'll need to improve in order to do well in that environment?
Well, in general I would like to just add a lot of depth to my play. I definitely don’t want be known for one style. I would prefer to go towards a more heavy micro / high apm style.


Are there any Korean Protoss players you have your eye on? Who are you looking forward to playing the most on the KR ladder?
Not really. I hear really good things about Sangho. Other than that the usuals like tester, nexgenius, inca etc. Don't think I'll be to worried about ladder once I get over there.


There's another big event before Korea though. MLG Dallas! You've placed 1st and 3rd at Raleigh and DC respectively and thus currently lead the MLG SC2 rankings points wise. What is your mindset going into the MLG National Championship?
Hoping to feel comfortable as possible, play my best, and win obviously. I want to leave North America successful and return that way as well.


Alright, on that note we're gonna say own hard, and Liquid fighting! Wishing you good games and good luck for Dallas, HuK.
Thank you <33


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This week, not only do we have the usual ladder reps from a Liquid member (HayprO starring in many ZvT yeehaw!), but we also have exclusive replays from the Zotac Team League which oGs won. Watch Jinro as he takes on Werra in the Semi Finals!

Jinro Zotac Team League Replay Pack

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Artosis interviewed HuK at Blizzcon. If you missed it earlier, be sure to grab it now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aunpVdQzEhQ&feature=player_embedded



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Nice writeup, might do the haiku.
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October 29 2010 08:00 GMT
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Everything was awesome as usual in this Liquid Weekly, but the Reps are what I am most excited for right now. Thanks alot!
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October 29 2010 08:07 GMT
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Will you guys attend Dreamhack? :
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Last Edited: 2010-10-29 08:25:25
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alway nice to see how our heroes are doing. =D
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Great as always!

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October 29 2010 09:06 GMT
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Hm, if you tweet a haiku with both @teamliquidnet and @lilappfactory it goes beyond 140 characters.

halp?
I am not good with quotes
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October 29 2010 09:06 GMT
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nice photoshop there ^^

always a quality post!

GO TL!!!
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October 29 2010 09:16 GMT
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On October 29 2010 18:06 s.a.y wrote:
Hm, if you tweet a haiku with both @teamliquidnet and @lilappfactory it goes beyond 140 characters.

halp?

OK, you can just tweet @teamliquidnet then, no problem.
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United States11047 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 09:34:33
October 29 2010 09:33 GMT
#10
Nice writeup as usual. Interesting challenge this week.

Huk's sounding more idraliska like.

hahaha. Just got to the point where he had to mention the mothership. "Lately" lol.
"Oh Huk back to his tricks"

The jump was amusing.
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Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 09:48:16
October 29 2010 09:47 GMT
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Zotac Team League - Event How did I miss this ? Damn I guess it was not broad casted ?.

Also great weekly with lots of news. I cant wait to see the results of Haypro, Jinro after having been to Korea. Also Ret hwaiting. Shit is getting serious :D
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Last Edited: 2010-10-29 10:21:01
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I don't mean to be an ass, but that makes me wonder if my cheerful was even seen by staff. Same theme but I put a lot more work into it and everyone seemed to like it. =/

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October 29 2010 11:11 GMT
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On October 29 2010 19:19 Loophole wrote:
I don't mean to be an ass, but that makes me wonder if my cheerful was even seen by staff. Same theme but I put a lot more work into it and everyone seemed to like it. =/

Rest assured that we go through every entry before judging the contest. Sorry yours didn't win. Maybe try again? Good luck!
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October 29 2010 12:07 GMT
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i love weekly!! omfg thanks for the replays also!
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October 29 2010 12:31 GMT
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Nice airplane, didn't know that you guys have enough money for such things :p
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October 29 2010 12:39 GMT
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Wow, seems like Dallas is going to be awesome!
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October 29 2010 12:42 GMT
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Ah so glad to hear that another former teammate of mine is going to korea without me... GL HUK!
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October 29 2010 13:02 GMT
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That's a nice you guys have there!!

Can't wait for Dallas!!
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October 29 2010 13:28 GMT
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Nice, blizzard hooks up the drugs!
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October 29 2010 14:30 GMT
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was not ogs-tl house allready full? where are ret and huk going to sleep
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