• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:03
CEST 08:03
KST 15:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon106
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double Recent Patches and the Future Stellar Fest 1 Replay Pack Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach Bot on ladder BW General Discussion PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7490 users

[OSL] RO8 - Week 1 - Page 3

Forum Index > News
50 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44322 Posts
April 28 2010 12:49 GMT
#41
On April 28 2010 20:50 Gulzt wrote:
Can we see the VODs somewhere?

Tea Ell Pea Dee
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Gulzt
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands275 Posts
April 28 2010 12:58 GMT
#42
On April 28 2010 21:49 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2010 20:50 Gulzt wrote:
Can we see the VODs somewhere?

Tea Ell Pea Dee

Thanks, wasn't aware of that, pretty new here. Thx.
HollOwed
Profile Joined April 2010
United States17 Posts
April 28 2010 13:06 GMT
#43
Gogo Zerg pawa!!
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
April 28 2010 15:01 GMT
#44
Great writeup! I read the descriptions and ratings to decide if I'm going to watch a game, as such I will be watching Flash vs Baby later
Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
April 28 2010 16:35 GMT
#45
On April 28 2010 15:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
If it ever got there, Stork could eliminate Flash in a semi final. That's the closest I can see besides Jaedong getting his act together.

I mean everyone else, even Bisu or Best or Kal, at their best don't really measure up to this version of Flash. Stork and Jaedong are the only players I've seen honest to goodness beat him in a manner where I thought they could truly be considered the better player (And, actually, Leta and Skyhigh did this but my faith in Flash's TvT will never waver. 22-0).


bisu did 2-1 flash on heartbreak ridge last WCG with pretty high level play

On April 28 2010 20:12 LuigiNMario wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2010 12:00 saltywet wrote:
On April 28 2010 11:20 thunk wrote:
I think Flash vs Kal is the best potential OSL final we can get. And it would be a good OSL final too; Calm vs. Flash was an incredibly high-level match and I'd expect Flash vs Kal to be equally high level.

At the moment, Kal is the only P who can take a game off of Flash in a Best of series. He's an incredibly smart player who seems to be the only person have any chance at all of taking a game off Flash.


Kal is good, but i sorta lol'd at kal being the only P who can take a game off flash. kal is 1-5 flash with the 1 game being a dt rush where flash skips turrets last summer. flash is just so clutch, i dont think kal can take a single game off flash.

imo zero has the best chance, but the problem is whether he'll make it or whether his zvz will fail him


First of all zero can't even do well vs decent terran, and if he's gonna face Flash for the title.


zero vs flash on match point last MSL was one of the most perfect zvt's i've seen with good map abuse. zero can play brilliantly, its just that he still lacks consistency

On April 28 2010 15:22 thunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2010 12:00 saltywet wrote:
On April 28 2010 11:20 thunk wrote:
I think Flash vs Kal is the best potential OSL final we can get. And it would be a good OSL final too; Calm vs. Flash was an incredibly high-level match and I'd expect Flash vs Kal to be equally high level.

At the moment, Kal is the only P who can take a game off of Flash in a Best of series. He's an incredibly smart player who seems to be the only person have any chance at all of taking a game off Flash.


Kal is good, but i sorta lol'd at kal being the only P who can take a game off flash. kal is 1-5 flash with the 1 game being a dt rush where flash skips turrets last summer. flash is just so clutch, i dont think kal can take a single game off flash.

imo zero has the best chance, but the problem is whether he'll make it or whether his zvz will fail him


Yea, it's really laughable because Kal keeps getting put in against Flash, again and again. If you've looked at the games they're long and Kal has made decisions that put him in reach of victory, but as you said, Flash is Flash. I think it's a testament to how good Kal is because he keeps getting matched against Flash.

What other P's would you consider? Movie maybe. He did take one game off of Flash in the OSL finals. Stork? Perhaps. Jangbi and Bisu? If they ever got their respective acts together. Free and Best round out the last of the six dragons, but I never had much faith in Free as a player. I'm as much of an SK fanboy as the next, but Fantasy stands a much better chance than Best or Bisu. All the other P's out there stand about as good of a chance as a next, and they're only stealing a game by cheesing.


so far past 3 games kal has tried to play standard against flash. i really hope kal is saving up some really pimp cheesy abusive builds and trying to make flash underestimate him, because simply playing standard doesnt do him any justice. a kal vs flash final this osl would definitely be best possible finals. movie, pure or effort would be the worst possible opponents which is why im rooting against them
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
April 28 2010 16:44 GMT
#46
Match and Player ratings~
Nice! I actually did read through these for once.
I didn't catch all the games this time.
Gooooood stuff.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 08:17:20
April 29 2010 08:15 GMT
#47
bisu did 2-1 flash on heartbreak ridge last WCG with pretty high level play


That's when Flash wasn't raping everyone and had that 20% win rate against dragons. Heartbreak Ridge was a difficult map for terran to push on too.

zero vs flash on match point last MSL was one of the most perfect zvt's i've seen with good map abuse. zero can play brilliantly, its just that he still lacks consistency


Zero doesn't lack consistency. He just can't win in tense situations. The deeper Zero gets in individual leagues, the less chance he has of winning series matches.

so far past 3 games kal has tried to play standard against flash. i really hope kal is saving up some really pimp cheesy abusive builds and trying to make flash underestimate him, because simply playing standard doesnt do him any justice. a kal vs flash final this osl would definitely be best possible finals. movie, pure or effort would be the worst possible opponents which is why im rooting against them


I don't think Flash would underestimate Kal since he's the only protoss that constantly gets to the late game.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 20:31:08
April 29 2010 20:30 GMT
#48
match ratings are a very nice touch, keep up the great reports!
in relation to the poll, I read through these posts regardless of if I've watched the games or not (i'll avoid them until I've watched games I'm excited about though) though I'll generally skim the battle reports for key events instead of reading them fully.
also happy birthday Waxangel!
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
April 29 2010 21:02 GMT
#49
KIM GOOHYUN!
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44322 Posts
April 29 2010 22:04 GMT
#50
Getting to the late game against Flash isn't an achievement, he never loses the late game. Your chances of winning vs Flash start low and only get worse.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
May 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#51
Another option: I don't read TL coverage. I did a 30s-1 minute skim.
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 57m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 139
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2059
HiyA 459
Mong 182
Shinee 61
Bale 25
NotJumperer 24
Noble 12
Icarus 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm181
League of Legends
JimRising 651
Reynor57
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 793
Heroes of the Storm
WinterStarcraft685
Other Games
summit1g7077
C9.Mang0305
PiGStarcraft226
RuFF_SC231
ArmadaUGS29
Livibee20
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick540
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream449
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2236
League of Legends
• Rush1236
• Lourlo1013
• Stunt466
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 57m
Afreeca Starleague
3h 57m
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
17h 57m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 4h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
FEL
4 days
AI Arena Tournament
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.