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April 10th, 2010 02:58 GMT
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Hot on the heels of Episode #4, Sean "Day[9]" Plott's Team Liquid Beta Cast returns with a 50+ minute episode featuring Jonathan "FrozenArbiter" Walsh aka Liquid`Jinro as a guest caster once again.

This week, chatter on the forums has mostly been about the massive changes that the last patch brought in, and this episode picks up there, with these two top players discussing how these nerfs affect gameplay in general. Has ZvZ changed for the better? Are Thors viable in different situations now? What games should you guys be watching this week? Answers to all this and more, inside!

>> Download Team Liquid Beta Cast #5 OGG <<

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This post was made by the Team Liquid Starcraft 2 Coverage Team. For more of TL's coverage, please visit the Team Liquid Starcraft 2 Beta Page.
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zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
April 10 2010 03:01 GMT
#2
wow long podcast. I wish there was a radio station that just played day9 all day long.
Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
April 10 2010 03:15 GMT
#3
Big thanks! listening now
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
April 10 2010 03:16 GMT
#4
Thanks! Allways interessting to hear your views
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 10 2010 03:17 GMT
#5
The imbedded player keeps freezing my Chrome

Ahhh thermonuclear pizza! Good cast so far.
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Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
April 10 2010 03:32 GMT
#6
Downloading this to listen to it after PL games.
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Jayde
Profile Joined July 2009
Marshall Islands104 Posts
April 10 2010 03:51 GMT
#7
Yaayyy! These podcasts are the best source for SC2 info.

Thanks everyone.
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robal4444
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland5 Posts
April 10 2010 03:54 GMT
#8
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
April 10 2010 04:00 GMT
#9
Day 9 is everywhere now, i just watched the HiBye cast. I'm really glad to see Jinro too, it's always nice to hear a friendly European MOD
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
April 10 2010 04:01 GMT
#10
yess long podcast ftw <3 cant get enough
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 10 2010 04:03 GMT
#11
Listening right now...
Thank you very much
Terran
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
April 10 2010 04:06 GMT
#12
Haha, the cool kids only podcast.
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Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
April 10 2010 04:10 GMT
#13
Hahahaha great podcast, oh i remember those days when one handed playing just made sense and the idea of hotkeys just didnt seem to make anything faster.... anyways good work guys solid analysis
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
April 10 2010 04:11 GMT
#14
Idra vs Smuft for 5000$ ? PLEASE cast this
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
April 10 2010 04:18 GMT
#15
Thanks for the cast guys! keep it up!
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
robal4444
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland5 Posts
April 10 2010 04:45 GMT
#16
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robal4444
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland5 Posts
April 10 2010 04:50 GMT
#17
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Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
April 10 2010 06:06 GMT
#18
looks good
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
April 10 2010 07:21 GMT
#19
Do want: day9's pizza.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 10 2010 07:31 GMT
#20
Awesome work guys! Thanks
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bobhund
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden364 Posts
April 10 2010 08:06 GMT
#21
Yay jinro :D
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towerranger
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria134 Posts
April 10 2010 08:08 GMT
#22
MOAR
Simo
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia21 Posts
April 10 2010 08:25 GMT
#23
Nice, i loved the first one and will listen to this asap.
DaBoOoO
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands18 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 08:50:18
April 10 2010 08:49 GMT
#24
i agree with jinro about the z vs p ^^
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Starfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria699 Posts
April 10 2010 09:07 GMT
#25
BTW: Sniper round from ghosts ingore shield, they go directly to the HP of the unit, that's why you oneshot HT
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PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
April 10 2010 09:24 GMT
#26
On April 10 2010 18:07 Starfox wrote:
BTW: Sniper round from ghosts ingore shield, they go directly to the HP of the unit, that's why you oneshot HT


i don't think that's true? it doesn't bypass the shields
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Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
April 10 2010 10:13 GMT
#27
i like that its embedded into the page. before i would hate downloading a file or whatever and listening to it on my own time. having it on the page makes it so much more easier for me and more liikely for me to listen to it
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 10 2010 11:41 GMT
#28
On April 10 2010 16:21 dethrawr wrote:
Do want: day9's pizza.

Do want: all pizza.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
April 10 2010 12:09 GMT
#29
Day 9, wherever I look you pop up.. how do you manage to be everywhere at once?
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Wishmaster
Profile Joined March 2010
Malta73 Posts
April 10 2010 12:12 GMT
#30
I like your cast, but you both were very unsure about the effects of the voidrays for all 3 matchups.
As Jinro pointed out, Voids are now really strong in pvt because they are 150% better vs rines. So you can really keep the terran busy while expanding as a protoss now. And be a real thread.

In PvZ they kill a queen much easier => also have an effect on this matchup. I am not sure yet if they effect pvp in any means.

Anyways I would be pleased if you talk about the patch, that you know what the patch has changed.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
April 10 2010 12:24 GMT
#31
I like podcasts as much as the next guy, but I much prefer reading, so I'm a little saddened at the lack of articles
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CloneXpert
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania9 Posts
April 10 2010 13:11 GMT
#32
nice! :D
Brucy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States51 Posts
April 10 2010 15:51 GMT
#33
Agree with the lurkers. :p
studmac
Profile Joined March 2010
United States22 Posts
April 10 2010 17:13 GMT
#34
Cant wait to listen to this podcast in my car while driving around town. Even the thought of it is so relaxing =P
Born to Fast Expand...
h4rvey
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada249 Posts
April 10 2010 18:03 GMT
#35
maybe im blind but i cannot find the past episodes of this podcast can anyone link me?
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 10 2010 18:11 GMT
#36
On April 10 2010 21:09 Senx wrote:
Day 9, wherever I look you pop up.. how do you manage to be everywhere at once?


hallucination :>
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kei-clone
Profile Joined June 2008
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 19:33:51
April 10 2010 19:29 GMT
#37
EDIT: erroneous post
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 19:30:45
April 10 2010 19:30 GMT
#38
On April 11 2010 04:29 kei-clone wrote:
day9 mentions a certain build by kolll, where he goes lair before queen. but eh..lair is unlocked by queen right?

You need a spawning pool to make a lair.

Also need 100 gas which is why Koll went early double geysers those game and then takes off gas after getting 100 gas.
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btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
April 10 2010 21:28 GMT
#39
5 pool!
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 21:40:06
April 10 2010 21:39 GMT
#40
On April 11 2010 03:03 h4rvey wrote:
maybe im blind but i cannot find the past episodes of this podcast can anyone link me?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118437 #4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=114862 #3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113932 #2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112979 #1

We should probably have a [Podcast] tag for them, it's a bit hard to search for them I guess.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
April 10 2010 22:07 GMT
#41
nice cast.
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
April 11 2010 04:12 GMT
#42
NOOOOOO the pizza
thezergk
Profile Joined October 2009
United States492 Posts
April 11 2010 23:17 GMT
#43
Anyone know how to get this on IPod?
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DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
April 12 2010 00:57 GMT
#44
Thanks for offering the MP3 as well. My stupid mp3 player doesn't support OGG, so this saves me one conversion step. Good job!
My modesty is awesome.
marble-house
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada15 Posts
April 12 2010 04:05 GMT
#45
Nice podcast, I'm gonna give that immediate lair before queen thing a go.
creditcruncher
Profile Joined April 2010
American Samoa5 Posts
April 12 2010 04:06 GMT
#46
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Flames
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States105 Posts
April 12 2010 05:20 GMT
#47
After the new patch, I've been waiting for time to listen to this. =)
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Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
April 12 2010 07:23 GMT
#48
is this on iTunes yet?
Neo27
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States154 Posts
April 12 2010 14:50 GMT
#49
Thank you for hosting both ogg and MP3. Now I don't have to convert it to go on my iPod.
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ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
April 12 2010 15:03 GMT
#50
Great podcast once again!

Does anyone know when this 5k (!) smuft vs idra is going to be played?
no dude, the question
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
April 12 2010 16:20 GMT
#51
I felt this podcast wasn't on par with the previous one.
Can't exactly find why, it just felt less enjoyable.

The debate was a bit random, seems the plan was to comment the changes of the last patch but because of the numerous disgression some changes were only loosely commented or answered with some "i don't know comment".

At the end of the podcast i couldn't really remember what your reactions were to the patch changes.

Can't pinpoint what felt wrong, at least to me.
Firebathero fanboy - It's not that i'm dumb i'm just controlled by a retarded infestor - Day[9]
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
April 12 2010 16:24 GMT
#52
I think that D9 and Jintro probably talk quite well in private manner, aka skype/vent, but this podcast does not flow well.


The segway between topics felt like nails on a chalkboard.
Sansucal
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany259 Posts
April 12 2010 16:40 GMT
#53
MOAR !
Stuslegend
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada168 Posts
April 12 2010 21:28 GMT
#54
i was expecting more of this

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dano
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3 Posts
April 13 2010 15:10 GMT
#55
Great stuff. I haven't been able to find any a feed for these podcasts. It'd be great usability wise if that could be added. Plus, results in Google Listen for "starcraft" are pretty awful. If there are feeds then adding the appropriate link rel alternate links in the HTML would enable rss aware browsers to make there existence apparent to the user.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 13 2010 16:23 GMT
#56
On April 13 2010 01:20 Squallcloud wrote:
I felt this podcast wasn't on par with the previous one.
Can't exactly find why, it just felt less enjoyable.

The debate was a bit random, seems the plan was to comment the changes of the last patch but because of the numerous disgression some changes were only loosely commented or answered with some "i don't know comment".

At the end of the podcast i couldn't really remember what your reactions were to the patch changes.

Can't pinpoint what felt wrong, at least to me.

I agree (though I actually haven't listened to this one), we didn't have as much of a plan of what to talk about this time as the last + lack of sleep made me a bit unfocused >_<
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
tru_power22
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada385 Posts
April 14 2010 01:03 GMT
#57
Poor Bastard. I salute the pizza.

Anyways, great cast as always - intellectual and somewhat humours. Looking forward to the next one.
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Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
April 14 2010 16:47 GMT
#58
On April 10 2010 12:01 zomgzergrush wrote:
wow long podcast. I wish there was a radio station that just played day9 all day long.


Oh yeah! On my way to work...

-"What's that you listening to, man? The Dodgers game?!"
-"Pfffft! This is Day[9]Daily!!!"

xD
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Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
April 15 2010 11:50 GMT
#59
Nice podcast again. Although i do agree with whats been said earlier about a bit of unfocused and weird flow of the cast, it was still enjoyable. Recommend just first jumping into the patch changes, wrapping that up, then continue with other stuff, ie: certain matchups you tried out, new tourneys, weird news, etc etc
I'm Norwegian/Dutch. Just the awesome parts of them though :D
Demius
Profile Joined April 2010
United States4 Posts
April 16 2010 22:33 GMT
#60
Is there a way to get an RSS feed to subscribe via our favorite music player.. for whenever you release these great podcasts!
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borso
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary28 Posts
April 22 2010 23:07 GMT
#61
The part with the pizza was very funny. I also have the tendency to forget things in the microwave. I almost managed to burn the down our house once this way. :D
Science. It works bitches!
tjoonz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States11 Posts
May 02 2010 18:28 GMT
#62
fascinating
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
May 02 2010 21:16 GMT
#63
i hope they nerf colo soon ;-]
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