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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 01 2009 02:12 GMT
#421
You guys really think we should be using vet sanctuary so early?
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
March 01 2009 02:21 GMT
#422
On March 01 2009 11:12 3clipse wrote:
You guys really think we should be using vet sanctuary so early?

So far, 22 people think so.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 01 2009 02:28 GMT
#423
I'm really just going with the flow though

I think it makes sense though
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 01 2009 02:29 GMT
#424
On March 01 2009 11:21 Monoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 11:12 3clipse wrote:
You guys really think we should be using vet sanctuary so early?

So far, 22 people think so.

Well most people are afraid to dissent lest they be labelled Mafia. I'm just trying to give things some second thought (though it's too late to vote it out now anyway).
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
March 01 2009 02:45 GMT
#425
On March 01 2009 11:05 fusionsdf wrote:
4 only works if you make a bunch of lists (i.e. tell everyone to vote the way you want) and role check one of those. Its also important that only dyno/cleared people know which list was checked, and who is confirmed. Otherwise mafia will just go after the checked list knowing that there is probably a bunch of blues, and we know they are innocent.

Thats exactly the idea, making 3 or so small lists will force mafia to risk theyr game on those lists, theres no point in making checklists on large votes just to get as an example for this time:
2/35 mafia voted to lynch inertinept, LARGE LISTS ARE USELESS small lists accomplish:

-force mafia to risk their votes if getting involved in small lists (since the people is pmd from a clean head to vote for a random guy) the head knows who was not pmd to vote the random guy=> high risk to mafia to get involved.

-getting the most benefit for a votelist in the case they dont risk a mafia there: getting 6 or so more people clean for a votelist is HUGE FOR THE TOWN. I think there are already 5 players (vets) that will get clean as a start voting in separated single votelist with their secret vote.

-force mafia to "guess" what are in those votelists, those players can be anything from puregreen to vets wasting mafia hits, to bombers or PE that already used their checklists (In the future lynchs). Moreover mafia doesnt know wich list will be clean or not so they dont know where to attack either. Thats why i ask to make this lists with a mix of players to get cleaned + 1 vet.

-we force mafia to vote for the MOB because: they cant vote smalls lists (they are pmd people so again high risk if you vote for a small lists without getting pmd to do so), they cant abstain/not vote/vote for a single guy because they will be again high suspects.

-Please dyno take note of this plan, this is largely the best way to use our checklists, as LTT pointed rolecheck are nonimportant compared to this: why to rolecheck a guy if i can get 6 guys clean inmediatly? why to checklist a large checklist that will contain at least 1 mafia? And also note that for the first day we can do this with at least 2 PE, since once they use the power they are single townies, mafia cant hit them so risk again to confirm the list.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
March 01 2009 02:48 GMT
#426
On March 01 2009 11:29 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 11:21 Monoxide wrote:
On March 01 2009 11:12 3clipse wrote:
You guys really think we should be using vet sanctuary so early?

So far, 22 people think so.

Well most people are afraid to dissent lest they be labelled Mafia. I'm just trying to give things some second thought (though it's too late to vote it out now anyway).

Anyone that even proposes not to do it (like you) or doesnt vote is a highly mafia suspect. Why wouldnt you want to protect the head that is already confirmed clean? why wouldnt you use the power before we start dying? jeez.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 03:02:41
March 01 2009 03:02 GMT
#427
OH RIGHT, WE'VE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED DYNO PUBLICLY

I'm new to this, my bad. xD

Vet Sanctuary Vote
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 03:02 GMT
#428
On March 01 2009 09:54 JeeJee wrote:
has dyno said anything to anyone for a while
it would suck if he's inactive =-=

The last time I posted was only 12 hours ago. I do sleep, and I do have a job.

I'll be doing my best to keep up with everything, but you guys need to understand you've placed a lot of responsibility on me. I'm up to the task, but I'm not going to be able to read this thread nonstop every day. In fact, it would be very helpful if someone could provide occasional summaries of all significant activity.

That said, I've read every page I've missed so far.

[image loading]


Ugh, here we go...
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 03:03:56
March 01 2009 03:03 GMT
#429
I change my vote to inertinept and vote for veteran sanctuary.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 03:15 GMT
#430
Also, paramedics, if vet sanctuary passes, do not use your ability tonight. Save it for tomorrow night.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
March 01 2009 03:30 GMT
#431
On March 01 2009 12:02 Dyno. wrote:
[image loading]


Rofl. Good luck with that.

People, start switching your votes from inertinept to another list. Let's get a blue_arrow list started (he hasn't responded to our accusations and it's unlikely the vote will shift enough to get him killed). As mentioned before many times, large lists are absolutely useless. It would be much better to get multiple small lists and try to minimizethe number of people actually voting for inertinept.

I change my vote to blue_arrow
I highly suggest you either follow suit or get your own lists started. Don't make too many lists, however. ~8 people per list is fine IMO. Don't switch over too much so that inertinept ends up not getting killed. That would be terrible, especially considering we don't have vigilantes.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
March 01 2009 03:35 GMT
#432
On March 01 2009 12:30 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 12:02 Dyno. wrote:
[image loading]


Rofl. Good luck with that.

People, start switching your votes from inertinept to another list. Let's get a blue_arrow list started (he hasn't responded to our accusations and it's unlikely the vote will shift enough to get him killed). As mentioned before many times, large lists are absolutely useless. It would be much better to get multiple small lists and try to minimizethe number of people actually voting for inertinept.

I change my vote to blue_arrow
I highly suggest you either follow suit or get your own lists started. Don't make too many lists, however. ~8 people per list is fine IMO. Don't switch over too much so that inertinept ends up not getting killed. That would be terrible, especially considering we don't have vigilantes.


While this is a nice initiative, I don't think it should be done this way. I would much prefer that Dyno picks lists of who should be voting for whom because the mafia are less likely to be able to drop votes onto every list. If the mafia follows/ignores Dyno's instructions, we wind up with some lists which are 100% innocent. If they throw extra people onto random lists, we have nice suspects
Uff Da
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 01 2009 03:35 GMT
#433
I vote for blue_arrow
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
March 01 2009 03:36 GMT
#434
On March 01 2009 12:30 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 12:02 Dyno. wrote:
[image loading]


Rofl. Good luck with that.

People, start switching your votes from inertinept to another list. Let's get a blue_arrow list started (he hasn't responded to our accusations and it's unlikely the vote will shift enough to get him killed). As mentioned before many times, large lists are absolutely useless. It would be much better to get multiple small lists and try to minimizethe number of people actually voting for inertinept.

I change my vote to blue_arrow
I highly suggest you either follow suit or get your own lists started. Don't make too many lists, however. ~8 people per list is fine IMO. Don't switch over too much so that inertinept ends up not getting killed. That would be terrible, especially considering we don't have vigilantes.

I ask you not to do so unless you are pmd to do so. Random lists will give mafia the chance to hide there, small lists with pmd people are more valuable.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
March 01 2009 03:38 GMT
#435
At least qatol is reading my posts
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
March 01 2009 04:01 GMT
#436
I'll keep my vote on blue_arrow for now but if Dyno. tells me otherwise I'll just follow suit.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
March 01 2009 04:02 GMT
#437
## I vote to lynch inertinept and vet sanc
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 04:23:45
March 01 2009 04:18 GMT
#438
If your name is not on the following list, you need to PM me and tell me if you're a townie or a power role (and which role).

LTT
TruthBringer
Caller
nemY
ydg
dreamflower
Monoxide
bwdero
fusionsdf
LucasWoJ
Amber[LighT]
ahswtini
Mandalor
3 Lions
Scooter
redtooth
JeeJee
Trezeguet23
zeks
Icysoul
TranceStorm
iNfuNdiBuLuM
bumatlarge
3clipse
JL13
ChaosBringer
IloveKTF
Qatol
Bockit
LaXerCannon
Humbug
Rice
LordWeird
Tensai176
blue_arrow
Scaramanga
Naib
Malongo
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
March 01 2009 04:26 GMT
#439
On March 01 2009 13:18 Dyno. wrote:
If your name is not on the following list, you need to PM me and tell me if you're a townie or a power role (and which role).

LTT
TruthBringer
Caller
nemY
ydg
dreamflower
Monoxide
bwdero
fusionsdf
LucasWoJ
Amber[LighT]
ahswtini
Mandalor
3 Lions
Scooter
redtooth
JeeJee
Trezeguet23
zeks
Icysoul
TranceStorm
iNfuNdiBuLuM
bumatlarge
3clipse
JL13
ChaosBringer
IloveKTF
Qatol
Bockit
LaXerCannon
Humbug
Rice
LordWeird
Tensai176
blue_arrow
Scaramanga
Naib
Malongo

I did pm you
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
March 01 2009 04:27 GMT
#440
The following is the list of those who have not sent their role:

malongo
inertinept
Ra.Xor.2
aZnvaLiaNce
Fishball
motbob
RebirthOfLeGenD
Pyrrhuloxia
triflejack
pandabearguy
HeRoS)Pink
lakrismamma
Phrujbaz
fearus
Teejing
chaoser
CynanMachae
MasterOfChaos
Night[Mare
ulszz
Athos
d_so
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