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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
May 14 2008 05:37 GMT
#5501
i just read scorch's post and i agree with it
Teamliquidian townie
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
May 14 2008 08:30 GMT
#5502
I find it funny how all the major suspects now protect eachother >.>.
sAviOr...
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 14 2008 11:40 GMT
#5503
On May 14 2008 14:37 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i just read scorch's post and i agree with it
hehe i'm pretty sure you're not mafia and when i saw the RB link i was like :O!!! glad that scorch brought it back up - but your still a suspect but im not confident in taking that chance yet

On May 14 2008 17:30 Camlito wrote:
I find it funny how all the major suspects now protect eachother >.>.
It's great how theres a division in the camps between "suspects" and myself and co. If unforgiven is red he's just given us a nice list of mafia candidates haha

Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 14 2008 11:51 GMT
#5504
On May 14 2008 03:43 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
to be honest i dont think DamageControl is mafia...so you'll be seeing 2 townies die today.

i will be posting my suspect list soon, im sure 2 or 3 are mafia

edit: i just dont see why you have to put me ahead of ninja4ever, suresh0t or nightmare
On May 14 2008 03:40 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
I vote for DamageControl and and ninja4ever

?
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 14 2008 12:11 GMT
#5505
Maybe he's trying to save his own ass by voting for DamageControL and putting himself at 3rd place. By the way, it appears there is a bandwagon starting against Ninja4Ever in the voting thread. We might want to take a close look at the people voting for Ninja without giving a reason and not contributing anything else.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 14 2008 12:21 GMT
#5506
I dunno why others are voting but because there doesn't seem to be very much of an agreement on who to vote with our second lynch I went with my own suspicion plus a bit of a gut feeling, picked from the 4 or so candidates that are up in current discussion.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 13:02:02
May 14 2008 12:28 GMT
#5507
as a gentle reminder...

Case for Unforgiven being mafioso

Exhibit A
noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone.
We note this peculiar phrase, and implies that the driver of the vehicle must be doing something obscure while driving to be able to look for things

Exhibit B
"Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help,
Firstly we observe that he needs assistance carrying (a sick) person into the back of his car. And the fact that he acknowledges and appreciates it suggests that he needed the help.

Exhibit C
He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van.
Rather interesting choice of words "decided to be short". This coincides with the idea of Joe needing help to lift someone into his van

Exhibit D
Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind.
We note that he gives a thumbs up

Exhibit E
Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe
We note that he is smiling

Exhibit F
Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall.
We notes that he in going to "jump" onto him rather than "drop" onto him

Exhibit G
he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation.
Once again joe jumps onto a car - obvious gaining some serious height if he is going to cause an indentation

Exhibit H
Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so
We note that joe is in the perfect spot to kick him in the face - this again implies that he is short

Exhibit I
As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground.
We note that joe can only attack naib once he is on the ground, when he tries to get up he is "kicked" back to the ground - this again coincides with the fact that he is short

[image loading]

This image fits every single aspect of joe's character without fail. He fits the car driver in having to do something weird to look for his friend. He fits the short description and the fact he needs help to lift someone into his car. He fits the idea that joe needs to 'jump' around. He fits the kick. He fits the smile and the thumbs up.

Unforgiven absolutely has to be mafia

+ Show Spoiler [follow up posts] +
On May 11 2008 18:21 nemY wrote:
I don't really think Unforgiven is mafia here either.

-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though


My Response

lol unforgiven your analysis falls down on the count that information comes from one section of the profile only

case in point; d.arkive
[image loading]

every single clue from taipan snake pertained to that single picture - hence my accusation stands

On May 11 2008 18:21 nemY wrote:
-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
Fair enough, but i ask you this - in the middle of the night can you really tell if someone is obviously looking for someone? I beleive if that bunny was driving then he would be serving over the road imo or similar.. i just thought it was particularly peculiar

-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
I do beleive that a normal sized person would have been able to drag his friend into the car without assistance - so why does joe need Lucas to help him? because he cant do it himself, its impossible

-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
Note that there is no place where where the person was held by the rabbit - its plausible that the rabbit could still hold him - how can a penguin hold someone's legs? its flippers are incapable of holding legs? its somewhat of the same issue imo

-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?
That is an interesting point and quite frankly i don't have a complete answer for it... Blind Albino didn't talk - yet he was able to... Although given this sole flaw i still strongly feel that unforgiven is mafia and that the clues stacked against him are stronger than any other person in this game... i've been over the profiles so many times and im so certain about this - like d.arkive sure

+ Unforgiven is on the mandalor list (50% chance to kill) which always makes me more confident

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though

Case in point - he's the best fit

On May 11 2008 17:42 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
sup, well...i dont have much to say about plexa's clues, just that my picture being the source of all the clues pointing to me is a little too much, of ourse im not mafia, im sure Chuiu is a lot more capable of finding a lot of clues pointing to me, and be aware since L died not any clues is "smiling", but is true we need more suspects...on a side note im 6f 4' and 180lbs and thats not short lol.

On May 12 2008 05:55 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2008 19:05 Plexa wrote:
lol unforgiven your analysis falls down on the count that information comes from one section of the profile only

case in point; d.arkive
[image loading]

every single clue from taipan snake pertained to that single picture - hence my accusation stands

On May 11 2008 18:21 nemY wrote:
-I don't see how Exhibit A has anything to relate to Unforgiven
Fair enough, but i ask you this - in the middle of the night can you really tell if someone is obviously looking for someone? I beleive if that bunny was driving then he would be serving over the road imo or similar.. i just thought it was particularly peculiar

-Exhibit B seems questionable to me. A normal person on his own would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of roughly the same size into the back seat of a car... unless he dragged him in or had help.
I do beleive that a normal sized person would have been able to drag his friend into the car without assistance - so why does joe need Lucas to help him? because he cant do it himself, its impossible

-Exhibit D doesn't make much sense if Unforgiven is a short rabbit, how could he give someone a thumb's up sign and hold someone else down from behind?
Note that there is no place where where the person was held by the rabbit - its plausible that the rabbit could still hold him - how can a penguin hold someone's legs? its flippers are incapable of holding legs? its somewhat of the same issue imo

-If Joe really is Unforgiven, than Unforgiven shouldn't have any way of being able to talk (since he's a bunny). If crazie-penguin couldn't talk, why should Unforgiven be able to?
That is an interesting point and quite frankly i don't have a complete answer for it... Blind Albino didn't talk - yet he was able to... Although given this sole flaw i still strongly feel that unforgiven is mafia and that the clues stacked against him are stronger than any other person in this game... i've been over the profiles so many times and im so certain about this - like d.arkive sure

+ Unforgiven is on the mandalor list (50% chance to kill) which always makes me more confident

Sadly I can't really offer anyone else as a potential alternative for Joe though

Case in point - he's the best fit



exactly, we know Chuiu is a very smart guy, so, to just find clues about the characters parting from the pic in profiles is just weak (you can find a lot of information just googling my unoriginal nick ;D) i dont think chuiu had to use the same metod to find clues about 2 characters (me and d.arkive) besides, we have a lot more of strongest suspects and SUNDENLY you start a bandwagon against me =(...i dont want to belive the theory that says "ZOMG PLEXA'S MAFIA LULZ"...but this attack against me is disapointing =(


Editors note: That sure as hell was a flimsy defense by Unforgiven
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 12:30:20
May 14 2008 12:28 GMT
#5508
On May 14 2008 21:21 Bockit wrote:
I dunno why others are voting but because there doesn't seem to be very much of an agreement on who to vote with our second lynch I went with my own suspicion plus a bit of a gut feeling, picked from the 4 or so candidates that are up in current discussion.


That's interesting because when i read the people who voted for ninja, your name just didn't stand out as suspicious, rather kf91 and araav, and ofcourse unforgiven.

Edit: Plexa who is this UNOforgiven person... hmm...
sAviOr...
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 14 2008 12:33 GMT
#5509
On May 14 2008 21:28 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 21:21 Bockit wrote:
I dunno why others are voting but because there doesn't seem to be very much of an agreement on who to vote with our second lynch I went with my own suspicion plus a bit of a gut feeling, picked from the 4 or so candidates that are up in current discussion.


That's interesting because when i read the people who voted for ninja, your name just didn't stand out as suspicious, rather kf91 and araav, and ofcourse unforgiven.

Edit: Plexa who is this UNOforgiven person... hmm...


I was preempting
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 14 2008 15:48 GMT
#5510
unforgiven and damagecontrol
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 15:52:00
May 14 2008 15:50 GMT
#5511
On May 14 2008 21:11 Scorch wrote:
Maybe he's trying to save his own ass by voting for DamageControL and putting himself at 3rd place. By the way, it appears there is a bandwagon starting against Ninja4Ever in the voting thread. We might want to take a close look at the people voting for Ninja without giving a reason and not contributing anything else.



It's not that weird...the only weird part about it is they voted like unforgiven...but i see other people that are voting me and ninja, and a couple other variations of random suspects. These people just seem to be falling half of Plexa's plan. Who is more suspect? Well I guess that depends on if DC is red or green, and what ninja is and what all the others are who are getting votes. I mean qrs and nemy haven't voted in line with Plexa since...well I don't know when.

I tend to either just not vote or vote for who I'm told, I have no special powers, I'm not that great at clue interpretations (as proven by my blog on day 1 ;-]!). So maybe everyone needs to explain their votes in this thread after they vote. QRS obviously hates me for fucking his sister or something...and the ones that are voting ninja aren't that suspect considering ninja is as far as I know a fairly major suspect. Not trying to defend the votes just giving a perhaps why it is occurring and not jumping to a "These people are falling out of line so we better lynch them" mind frame.

Just something to keep in mind.

P.S. The edit was only to add the quote, because I read my post and it seemed a bit out of place .
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 14 2008 16:10 GMT
#5512
On May 15 2008 00:50 suresh0t wrote:
QRS obviously hates me for fucking his sister or something.

You did what?!
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 14 2008 17:59 GMT
#5513
On May 14 2008 20:51 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 03:43 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
to be honest i dont think DamageControl is mafia...so you'll be seeing 2 townies die today.

i will be posting my suspect list soon, im sure 2 or 3 are mafia

edit: i just dont see why you have to put me ahead of ninja4ever, suresh0t or nightmare
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 03:40 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
I vote for DamageControl and and ninja4ever

?


yeah, i vote for DamageControl because of you! i want the best for the town cuz im not a fuckfguhf mafia!!
:)
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
May 14 2008 18:48 GMT
#5514
On May 15 2008 02:59 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2008 20:51 Plexa wrote:
On May 14 2008 03:43 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
to be honest i dont think DamageControl is mafia...so you'll be seeing 2 townies die today.

i will be posting my suspect list soon, im sure 2 or 3 are mafia

edit: i just dont see why you have to put me ahead of ninja4ever, suresh0t or nightmare
On May 14 2008 03:40 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
I vote for DamageControl and and ninja4ever

?


yeah, i vote for DamageControl because of you! i want the best for the town cuz im not a fuckfguhf mafia!!

You are still going to be lynched no matter who you are voting for.-
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
May 14 2008 19:45 GMT
#5515
it comes to my head a song: "ah ah ah ah staying alive, staying alive" hahaha.Hoping for 2 reds now
Teamliquidian townie
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 14 2008 20:06 GMT
#5516
Exhibit B I can possibly see, but even then a normal sized person would have trouble carrying a passed out individual of equivalent size into a car. Exhibit D still don't make sense as the bunny is flipping us off rather than giving a thumbs up (perhaps Chuiu could have misinterpreted it though). Actually looking back at it, Unforgiven should be able to talk since his picture is of the infamous "happy bunny"

[image loading]
[image loading]


So yeah, he's probably mafia. Anyone know anything about Kuja9000 being Mr. Blond (I don't know much about final fantasy, so if there is anyone who does can they look into it)?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kuja
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 14 2008 20:08 GMT
#5517
Also, I don't get why we don't lynch clazziquai, someone who we know is 110% mafia.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
May 14 2008 20:37 GMT
#5518
+ Show Spoiler [vote count] +
Vote Count:

suresh0t
qrs
nemY
araav(2)

qrs
MoRe_mInErAls

str
MoRe_mInErAls

Artanis[Xp] - Fuck you.

DamageControl - 19
Plexa
Scorch
randombum
Alethios
Camlito(2)
SoleSteeler
Unforgiven_ve
Jimtudor
KF91
Bockit
Ace(6)(2)
clazziquai
RtS)Night[Mare(2)
BWdero

Unforgiven_ve - 14
Plexa(2)
Alethios(2)
Camlito
HeRoS)Pink
SoleSteeler
Jimtudor(2)
Scorch(2)
Ace(6)
RtS)Night[Mare

clazziquai
nemY

Ninja4ever. - 7
qrs(2)
Unforgiven_ve(2)
KF91(2)
Bockit(2)
araav
clazziquai(2)
BWdero(2)

Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink(2)

nemY Don't know why I bother deleting it every week
BuGzlToOnl

Abstain
fanatacist
ahrara_

xx of 67 possible votes accounted for.


One more day for voting. I'll update/doublecheck counts later.
♞
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
May 14 2008 20:53 GMT
#5519
On May 15 2008 05:08 nemY wrote:
Also, I don't get why we don't lynch clazziquai, someone who we know is 110% mafia.

cuz since he's almost 100% red, we should wait until plexa get killed
Addicted
Lysithea
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden204 Posts
May 14 2008 21:42 GMT
#5520
Still here, not very much active as usual, atleast I'm still voting unlike 30 (?) others.
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