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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 27 2008 16:16 GMT
#121
Switching tracks!

##Unvote: Neax

##vote: randombum[/QUOTE]
靈魂交響曲
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
February 27 2008 16:18 GMT
#122
damn
didn't check the blogs
sry for not posting )=
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
February 27 2008 16:32 GMT
#123
On February 28 2008 01:09 betaben wrote:
right. neax responded - you have no reason to vote for him. I'll vote for anyone voting for him because now it will be suspicious; also, out of the list, he with the most suspicious actions is randombum. so, for now,

##Vote: Randombum

random bum, I'm expecting a good defense. I have other suspicions, but since I was killed off last game for voicing them, I'm keeping them to myself. for now.

Well if everybody kept their suspicions to themselves and never spoke it would be easier for the mafia.

And also, by saying that you are suspisious of certain people, but not telling anyone yet, wouldn't that make it more profitable for mafia to kill you and shut you up?

imo more talk is always better for town.
Enter a Uh
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
February 27 2008 16:58 GMT
#124
Not sure if voting for randombum is a good choice, seeing as how someone had to suggest something..if we lynch people for making suggestions, where does that leave us as a town?

instead I suggest we revise my list of people who haven't posted and see if any remain

previous list
Sadir - POSTED
Fishball - POSTED
NeaX - POSTED
Jimtudor - POSTED
Unforgiven_ve - POSTED
infinity21 - NOT POSTED
Scooter - NOT POSTED
chicken` - NOT POSTED

so, infinity21, Scooter, and chicken` remain

Once again, random.org from 1-3 gives me
+ Show Spoiler [random.org results] +

Here are your random numbers:

1 1
2 2
1 3
2 2
3 3

Timestamp: 2008-02-27 16:54:39 UTC


So, 2 it is

##Unvote NeaX
##Vote Scooter


Either way this promotes discussion (although i'd like to mention that a lot of people on this listed simply posted saying "hey i'm here" without adding any value
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
February 27 2008 17:05 GMT
#125
Seeing NeaX back I'm more than happy to un-vote him before the days up if people feel that makes me mafia (Yes I prefer self-preservation before random voting.)

I only brought up random voting originally because we had no better option at the time. If suggesting a way to start the game is grounds to get my lynched then I feel like the town will lose regardless. Because after I turn up town nobody else will be likely to suggest openly.

Furthermore why are people like fishballs just joining the bandwagons. I believe that votes should be accompanied by reasons, so that when somebody gets lynched it is easy to go back and determined who wanted him dead and why. (If its mafia yay, but if its a townie then one must consider could it have been a mafia who wanted him dead)

And can somebody please point out these so called suspicious actions of mine besides being the first to offer a solution to the town's problem of who to vote for on the first day when there are no clues to go on?

I've got class now so I'll come back in about 3 hours and re-defend myself if people have substantial claims against me.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
February 27 2008 17:06 GMT
#126
uh I have so no clue for whoem to vote
I would suggest everybody to make a word file or w/e and write down their suspicion (good, evil)
it's easier to keep the survey of the whole thread
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 27 2008 17:41 GMT
#127
I'd still like to see someone who hasn't posted booted. (That's the only reason I voted for you, at the time, betaben).

##Unvote: betaben
##Unvote: randombum

(Unvoting randombum because I am listed as a vote for him)

##Vote: Scooter
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 27 2008 18:01 GMT
#128
unless ive missed a post past the first page "good luck to everyone and myself" i havent seen folca post, so if people are still voting based on a random number generator, they should add him to the list, as such im leaving him as my vote since i random'd him first.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
February 27 2008 18:02 GMT
#129
Oh man I missed the thread completely. It's already out of the blogs in the front page, no?
Do we have to post every day? Because I can't guarantee to visit TL every day due to school.
Official Entusman #21
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
February 27 2008 18:07 GMT
#130
##VOTE:Randombum
because... it's random anyways.
Official Entusman #21
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 27 2008 18:09 GMT
#131
On February 28 2008 03:02 infinity21 wrote:
Oh man I missed the thread completely. It's already out of the blogs in the front page, no?
Do we have to post every day? Because I can't guarantee to visit TL every day due to school.


Ill harass you over msn to post often, how does that work?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
February 27 2008 18:21 GMT
#132
The easiest way to find this thread
http://teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=18
or click on Blogs on the side

it'll likely be on top
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
February 27 2008 18:24 GMT
#133
I still say we should use the organized randomvote I proposed earlier. Atm we have no informations from the detectives, so we gain manipulationsafety without any price. In later days coordinated randomvoting loses usefullness, as the detectives get more informations. (It takes a normal cop 2-3 nights to find out what kind of cop he is, a rolecop is immediatly ready)
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
February 27 2008 18:53 GMT
#134
On February 28 2008 01:32 jtan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2008 01:09 betaben wrote:
right. neax responded - you have no reason to vote for him. I'll vote for anyone voting for him because now it will be suspicious; also, out of the list, he with the most suspicious actions is randombum. so, for now,

##Vote: Randombum

random bum, I'm expecting a good defense. I have other suspicions, but since I was killed off last game for voicing them, I'm keeping them to myself. for now.

Well if everybody kept their suspicions to themselves and never spoke it would be easier for the mafia.

And also, by saying that you are suspisious of certain people, but not telling anyone yet, wouldn't that make it more profitable for mafia to kill you and shut you up?

imo more talk is always better for town.


so, a few things which are frustrating me:

I said for now! please, noone jump on this bandwagon, make up you own decisions on what people say, because they are the only clues! the mafia will be wanting to sway us, so its important not to just follow anyone blindly.

so, my reasons for keeping guarded are two-fold: again, as I said, in the last game I was killed of straight away - I think it was because of good guesses; you might say, "well, we all know now what you think and now that you're dead we'll look into what you said and take it more seriously", but this did not happen in the first game.

naming more than one person at once not only gets you targeted but is useless because we can only lynch one person at once, (atm), so I'm only going to chose my most prominent suspicions to share with the town. also, I have suspicions only. if I voice them, it'll look like I'm accusing people without basis - which would be mafia-like. I'll wait for more evidence before making a stronger case.

and lastly, I am really against this non-talking thing. people who do not say anything are going to get mod killed anyway. we should go for people who do say stuff, because we have some information on them, and they're not going to get killed anyway by the moderator.

I was hoping this was clear in my first post, and I'm re-iterating, so this will be the last I say on it, as you can chose to ignore it or not.
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
February 27 2008 19:21 GMT
#135
Obviously following anybody blindly is a bad idea, but looking at different peoples arguments and evaluating their reasons, and do so in an open debate seems to be the only way to get information. There are no clues this game, so without discussion we could just go on random-voting forever.

I see your point about getting targeted when making a good guess, but the only way to get a mafia is to point him out as suspicious and get people to listen.

But yeah, perhaps it's better to collect some more evidence before posting to make more people believe you...I don't know. But it feels pretty hopeless right now.
Enter a Uh
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
February 27 2008 19:37 GMT
#136
infinity21- By using my name to vote for a random person is not quite what random voting is really about.... This seems very mafia like to me (Not posting a lot, but getting in their vote to lynch)

Jimturder- Another person who gives no explanation whatsoever who trying to lynch somebody (me) This really does not contribute to the town. If you have accusations of me you should list them so that the other townies will lynch me with you. Voting for a lynch with no substance behind it is rather mafia like.

Betaben- Again I ask what makes you think I'm a mafia by my words. You ask me to defend myself, but vague defenses are not as useful as you telling me what you think makes me a mafia so I can explain myself better. I understand that you want to vote for me because NeaX is now active, but the only reason he was chosen was because a random number generator did not like him.

God, I feel like I'm doing so much work and it is causing more and more people to target me. I'm putting the most into this thread (outside mods), but the more I say the more enemies I make. My last thing to say is that if I don't die by lynch then I recommend cops to use their abilities on me because I am likely to be mafia killed. At least when my card is turned over the cops can start to see what type of cops they are.
NatsuTerran
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States364 Posts
February 27 2008 19:50 GMT
#137
Hang on a second. I just looked back and randombum wasn't the one to start the whole random lynch idea. MidnightGladius started by saying "set random number generator 1-30" or something like that. Then randombum responds with "very well," after voting Neax. MidnightGladius' following comment, "sounds good to me" leads me to believe he could be mafia. I'm gonna go ahead and vote for him.

##Vote MidnightGladius
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
February 27 2008 20:16 GMT
#138
i'm supposed to be working at the moment... this game is intrusive.

from what random bum has been saying, I feel less inclined to vote for him. he's starting to give good reasons for things. and I'm afraid I've started an avalanche, so I feel guilty.

so,

##Unvote randombum

that doesn't mean I am completely trusting you, but now, I guess, it's more in the hands of a democratic town decision as to whether you're scum. to carry on with my previous reasoning, I expect you to all have moved away from neax given that the two reasons you had before were
1. he wasn't speaking.
2. there was no other information.
and neither are valid now. so I still suspect you who are voting for him. I don't want to cause biased decisions, so I'll vote later, (and now I need to do some work).
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
February 27 2008 20:17 GMT
#139
sorry, incorrect format:
##Unvote randombum
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-27 20:24:50
February 27 2008 20:23 GMT
#140
Firstly, sorry about the vote count mix up. I was changing systems, and some must have been lost in the change over. Hope this new one checks out.

I'm glad the PMs I sent out seemed to work. Still waiting from some content from:
Scooter
chicken`

6 hours to go (assuming an extension is not called for). The day will end at 1100 hours KST. The top right hand corner of TL.net has the time. Check how your time compares that of say... (T)Flash.

Neax: (4):
jtan, Jimtudor, Fishball, JeeJee, MidnightGladius, randombum, Caller, Ace
Kingkosi: (1): Empyrean
Folca: (1): BloodyC0bbler
BloodyC0bbler: (0):
NatsuTerran
ulszz: (1): ulszz
randombum: (7):
so no fek, kingkosi, jtan, betaben, Dr. Dragoon, ZBiR, GeneralStan, Neax, Jimtudor, Fishball, infinity21
JimTudor: (1): araav
betaben: (0):
Artanis[xp], so no fek
GeneralStan: (1): bp1696
MidnightGladius: (1):
GeneralStan, NatsuTerran
Klive5ive: (1): MasterofChaos
Fishball: (1): Kingkosi
Sadir: (1): Artanis[Xp]
Dr.Dragoon: (1): Unforgiven_ve
Scooter: (2): JeeJee, so no fek

Have added 24 hour time, and underlining to avoid confusion.
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