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Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 23 2008 04:45 GMT
#2061
Oh, the 'fakesteve is weak' thing is a bit lame, I gotta say. It's fine to make a mistake and correct it, or not be sure about stuff in mafia after a while. I applaud him double-lynching and am somewhat suspicious of people trying to draw attention to that; it's totally missing the actual problems in his play. Were the people pointing that out to later be revealed as scum, I would be markedly less suspicious of steve.

You've got to realise that it's not whether someone votes or criticizes someone else that makes them look bad; it's how they do and their reasons therein.
Shooting
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 23 2008 04:45 GMT
#2062
tracil if you have a lick of sense you'll pardon me
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-23 04:47:44
February 23 2008 04:46 GMT
#2063
On February 23 2008 13:43 Tracil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2008 12:04 JeeJee wrote:
On February 23 2008 12:03 Romance_us wrote:
On February 23 2008 12:02 JeeJee wrote:
On February 23 2008 12:01 Romance_us wrote:
On February 23 2008 11:54 JeeJee wrote:
L2W, romance, since you're actually reading the thread right now
what do you have to gain by lynching fakesteve? assuming best case scenario, town STILL becomes worse off when he's dead
comments?


How do you figure? He's using his advantage votes to vote for TRACIL, I don't see how it could possibly be worse if he were dead. If he were to use his stacked votes to go with us, or at least have a better explanation as to why to stray from our path, other than Tracil being "pessimistic", then yes, I would reconsider. But...


uhm
we don't have double lynches if he's dead?


Better one townie dead than two, right? Look at last double lynch...


that has got to be the most retarded thing i've read
you're assuming we only lynch townies and while the facts are on your side for now () i am hoping that will change.

edit: just to clarify, it's not FS's fault we voted for townies
edit#2: just to make your point further, why lynch at all? we don't have to. 0 townies better than 1 right?


JeeJee is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Town MUST LYNCH and arguing to 'lynch less than we can' is foolishness. Town can't win without lynches at all.

If Town lynches nothing but townies and loses the game, the way to fix it in future games is *not* to 'lynch nobody'. So. Yeah.

Re: EmeraldSparks: Actually, there's one more reason to run for mayor, which is that you're running because you're a townie and you don't want mafia to get it. That was part of why I ran (although putting that into your campaign is pointless), with the other part thinking that I would make a good mayor.

I would.. agree from an objective standpoint that my power is less useful than FakeSteves. I guess. I don't really think I've been scummy, like, at all. See next paragraph.

I disagree heavily with the concept that if Steve is town, I am likely mafia. I can point again and again to actual, *real* flaws in Steve's play. People have trouble doing the same to me, as evidenced by arguments that say "Tracil is likely to be scum BECAUSE scum would want to run for mayor" or "He's scum if x is town"- these aren't targeting my actual play. I do NOT want to hit Steve while he's using his powers (as they are 100% protown) but I don't really trust him, let me make that clear.

SoMuchBetter is not bringing things up because he's scared of being hit at night. I think that's a load of crap and not a valid excuse at all. If every townie was too scared to talk and try and argue things, town would have no chance whatsoever.
Yeah...and like SMB has scum in his signature and all....



just saying...seems kind of suspicious.




Edit: but also despite me thinking that there's a good chance FS might be mafia, I would still 100% support him being pardoned as his usefulness disregarding affiliation has been mentioned already numerous times.
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 23 2008 04:48 GMT
#2064
I want to see an updated votecount, actually...

People, let's not vote for FakeSteve if he's using his double lynch. Seriously.
Shooting
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 23 2008 04:50 GMT
#2065
On February 23 2008 11:50 Chuiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2008 03:08 qrs wrote:
Do elders get an extra extra vote for a double lynch?

I've already stated this: no. They get two votes for two townies, then a third vote from their role for whoever they want. Anyway, here is the vote count ...

Live2Win - 4
Folca
infinity21
JeeJee
clazziquai

SoMuchBetter - 17
HotZhot
ieatkids5
Falcynn(2)
ulszz(2)
Scooter
Thirdeye1017(2)
CDRdude(2)
Aepplet(2)
ZBiR(2)
ZaplinG(2)
chicken`(2)
dinmsab(2)
Romance_us(2)
Amber[LighT]
JeeJee(2)
Tracil
infinity21(2)

Caller - 2
Eti307
Elder

NotSorry - 7
goldenkrnboi
nemY
Falcynn
ieatkids5(2)
Amber[LighT](2)
Unforgiven_ve(2)
Tracil(2)

Tracil - 10
FakeSteve[TPR] * 4
ZaplinG
imDerek
wurm
Scooter(2)
Thirdeye1017
dancefayedance!~(2)

Mini Moose 2707
ulszz

Amber[LighT]
Alventenie

FakeSteve[TPR] - 13
chicken`
Romance_us
Aepplet
Live2Win
Empyrean
Vharox
ZBiR
Southlight
CDRdude
demonic_phate
Elder
dancefayedance!~
dinmsab

Unforgiven_ve
Elder

nemY - 2
NotSorry
wurm(2)

chicken`
Unforgiven_ve

Empyrean
NotSorry(2)

wurm - 2
nemY(2)
Live2Win(2)

34 of 54 possible voters accounted for. Night in a couple hours.

Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
February 23 2008 04:50 GMT
#2066
that count is fine as long as you pardon steve, tracil
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-23 04:51:28
February 23 2008 04:51 GMT
#2067
my votes now go to Romance_us and CDRdude

i'm fairly certain one of them is mafia and about 45% sure on the other
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
February 23 2008 04:51 GMT
#2068
After reading the last few pages, I'm going to pretty much agree with Fakesteve here.

I'm changing my vote from the Fakesteve one to no one.
Moderator
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-23 04:55:52
February 23 2008 04:55 GMT
#2069
I change my first vote from Tracil to NotSorry
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 23 2008 04:55 GMT
#2070
Romance_us... was he the guy who suggested that we don't use double lynches and stuff? I don't like that, it's uncool.

CDRDude has looked pretty good to me for most of the game, though.
Shooting
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 23 2008 04:55 GMT
#2071
And I DON'T WANT TO PARDON ANYONE. Waste of a lynch.
Shooting
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
February 23 2008 04:56 GMT
#2072
On February 23 2008 13:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
my votes now go to Romance_us and CDRdude

i'm fairly certain one of them is mafia and about 45% sure on the other

If you don't mind me asking, which one am I?
Force staff is the best item in the game.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 23 2008 04:57 GMT
#2073
CDR has looked kind of shady in my eyes

i'm voting for people i'm suspicious of but not certain, and also who don't have many votes

there is little chance of them being lynched immediately but they know i'm watching
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
February 23 2008 04:57 GMT
#2074
On February 23 2008 13:55 Tracil wrote:
And I DON'T WANT TO PARDON ANYONE. Waste of a lynch.


Better a waste of a lynch rather than a waste of a mayor... right?
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
February 23 2008 05:05 GMT
#2075
k, its friday night and im going to party - adios
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
February 23 2008 05:14 GMT
#2076
is the 24 hrs period extension over?
Teamliquidian townie
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
February 23 2008 05:24 GMT
#2077
Hmm, why wouldn't you pardon steve? because you are next in line?
I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever ~ CJ Entusman # 7
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
February 23 2008 05:28 GMT
#2078
I change my original vote from Live2Win to NotSorry
Official Entusman #21
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
February 23 2008 05:29 GMT
#2079
On February 23 2008 14:24 HotZhot wrote:
Hmm, why wouldn't you pardon steve? because you are next in line?


No, he's not next in line.

...
Moderator
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 23 2008 05:34 GMT
#2080
my votes stand unless i'm gonna get fucked

then i'll vote for notsorry to push his total over mine so i dont die
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
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