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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:31 GMT
#3954
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...

Yes AZ, this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:33 GMT
#3956
On June 13 2024 21:28 Koshi wrote:
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On June 13 2024 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:08 AlphaZero wrote:
It’s weird because it felt contrived and over explained. It pinged me at the time, which is why I remembered it.

Nothing fake about that.

The point is, why does Sandro have to be explain in depth like that to rule out a potential mislynch, he doesn’t need to do it to also vote someone else. Scott was not a viable lynch day two. Even I had dropped it. So it’s misleading to say that he must do call Scott town to do something else.

Mafia do not just hand out free town reads to townies, let alone put that effort into doing so.

So why did mafia do that?

The middle paragraph there is a fair point.

It is fair. But he does it to gain towncred calling a townie town.

You think he wrote all of that trying to make a teammate even more townie? Nha. Doesnt read like that. It reads as TMI and making something pretty to show off how smart he is. That is why some liked him so much yesterday.

Maybe. It can also be for a teammate, esp when town is steering away feom that. To look like he's on par wirhthe townies in his analysis.

Like if scott is mafia there is no reason why sandroba couldnt do that as mafia. Noone wants to lynch scott anyways D2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:34 GMT
#3958
Anyways just because mafia sandroba made a read X or Y, its not a reason to call anyone mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 12:47 GMT
#3964
On June 13 2024 21:35 AlphaZero wrote:
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On June 13 2024 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 21:25 Koshi wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:16 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 11 2024 14:07 AlphaZero wrote:
Half the town is scum siding imo

Who?


Every townie thats not me trfel Sandro and maybe Mocsta basically

2 quotes from you. I could add more but it was obvious you tr the very small sandro filter. It is pretty surprising to me that you now say that there were "weird" read progressions from sandro. I dont remember you focussing on those yesterday.

But to incriminate scott...

Yes AZ, this.


Fuck you too then.

To say I simply town read Sandro is bullshit and not the truth.

Just read those 5 quotes I posted. There is more from day one.

I am pretty sure you heavily disagreed with me in the mason when sandroba WAS posting and i told you you need to realise sandroba is mafia and Koshi is town, no?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 13:09 GMT
#3967
##vote Mocsta
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 13:26 GMT
#3971
On June 13 2024 19:38 Koshi wrote:
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On June 13 2024 19:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to work...
Koshi can you be around in like 10 hours?

I think so. I put an alarm 22u30 my local time.

I think you can delay that for an hour or 2.
I have something to do after i get off work so i can't play immediately.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 13:26 GMT
#3972
On June 13 2024 19:33 Koshi wrote:
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On June 13 2024 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Everyone already almost fucked up the game by not voting sandroba who was too obvious to be mafia with sandroba.

lol. Yeah weird.
One of the few lynches I was pretty sure on.

Voting pattern screamed mafia.

On June 13 2024 19:33 Koshi wrote:
Yeah Mocsta mafia with dmb and Sandroba explains yesterday.

Way too antsy and fixed upon not voting sandroba or dmb.

Is this really what you think?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 14:42 GMT
#3975
On June 10 2024 21:06 die_meatbaby wrote:
rsoultin/koshi
Either rsoultin or koshi have not given me reasons to see them as mafia. Koshi is really activ, trying to solve the game here. He has a lot of townreads but he plays still like a Townkoshi would.

Scott

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On June 07 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
I think scott31337 is probably the most suspicious person to ever play this game. He's just always mafia somehow, even when his role PM says he is town


I think you are right also in older games from he looked scummy in his town games.

Trfl
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On June 07 2024 20:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Trfel spending time and energy to fence sit seems townie to me, I don’t really like how rayn has approached today tbh the buddying trfel smells not good

I thought the same thing kinda suspicious, but I think it was nothing.
Trfls Filter wouldn´t make so much sense when he would be mafia. I could not see with who he would be togther in a team.
For right now I see him as a Townie

Sandroba
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/625928-sweet-summer-mafia?user=sandroba
this is 2 page filter.
he comes in the game starts with giving town reads on trfl, rayn, az, kelshier.
far too early in the game to make so many reads.Then hitting a bit on scott and just going offline for ever. For me this filter is a red flag but maybe things change when he would start to play here again.

IF I am corect with sandro mafia then guys look at this shit and you can call me paranoid but thats something now:
Mocsta
sandro making a few townreads on the people who were activ in the begining but not on mocsta he didn´t get a read
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On June 07 2024 23:21 sandroba wrote:
I actually like k3lsier too, 0 fucks given on mocsta interaction, seems very townie to me


looks like it's such a safe read that it shouldn't be labeled as town right away so as not to stand out directly as teammates
then the next posts felt to me like playing togther
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On June 08 2024 00:11 Mocsta wrote:
On June 08 2024 00:06 sandroba wrote:
Basically if the initial question wasn't fake, definitely what rayn answered is not enough to address the question.
If it is fake you are either doing it to create discussion and you don't really care about it, or you are trying to blend in not create discussion.
If you intension is the former which could be a townie agenda, you wouldn't try to cut it short when you got the discussion going, which was what scott did. It makes more sense it was the latter which points to mafia agenda.
yeah I get this now and accept it's the most likely options

I was too focused on a third option which is too low odds (i.e. genuine role query)


the sandro we never saw sandro again...
what happend was

Mocasta playing normal and calling out that he is jailkeeper and he will save oats n1

I would just love to understand why he didn't die on the first night. If someone blue called you kill them that night as mafia. Why are you still alive? What did Marv do to get himself killed and not the PR?
Are you really blue???? Are you really fucking Town? Or are you playing with sandro?

and why jail oats anyway?
if you are town why are you saving oats. Why is he so Town to you. Why not Koshi, marv people who are strong town and often die early. Why oats?

Or have I already found the team here?

this hole thing fucks my head. Either you fuck with me or the mafia, because it doesn´t make sense to me!

also in the same time i think
Vivax
I think I already explained enough why I think he mafia. But this read could change again.
He is hell of paranoid but in RL right now not in the game, maybe this leads to a false read but when he is playing like this he is def. mafia in my eyes. Then I have the question again why is oats in this involved if my currents reads would be correct

or is oats red and vivax green? I don´t thinks so oats looking more townisch then vivax. I am still unsure how read oats.

AZ
I don´t have a good feeling with him. Feels like he wann kinda lead Town somewhere, but not in a way that is too conspicuous. Still try to figure out if this is DP or Palmar. But I think it´s someone who I have played with already. No read on him right now

Rayn
In every fucking game we have played I have read him wrong. He was town i thought mafia and the other way around. I am still to fucking unsure what to think of him right now. In my head kinda scummy so lets say more townisch because I am always wrong with my read on him.

Slam
to less activ to make a read. It´s anyways always hard to read slam but when he only appears minutes before or after somebody died then I can really not read him


AND YOU ALL CAN CALL ME FUCKING PARANOID FOR THIS SANDRO/ MOCSTAR SHIT BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME SHIT GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 14:44 GMT
#3977
On June 13 2024 23:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 22:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Mocsta


That was unexpected

and what game are you reading?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 15:27 GMT
#3980
On June 14 2024 00:06 Koshi wrote:
Would dmb buss so hard because Mocsta knew he risked a lot during sandroba lynch? When was this dmb post? Gtg home now.

Her first post during D2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 18:40 GMT
#4003
Mocsta
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 19:00 GMT
#4010
On June 14 2024 03:48 scott31337 wrote:
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On June 13 2024 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:42 Mocsta wrote:
to me, you can only be mafia if dmb is mafia

explain pls.

dude. its already there, i gave 2 specific scenarios that only unlock based on dmb because dmb was the counter wagon

i know you read good too, what is this?

If i get it right what you are saying, you think there is a chance that mafia!rayn went to fuck up mafia!sandroba because there was a wagon on mafia!dmb? That's your interpretaion?


I actually never thought of it this way...

Let Mocsta answer questions posed for him and not make random comments on them please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 19:17 GMT
#4026
Yes Koshi i am town cockblocker
Very important talent toi have.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 19:57 GMT
#4049
On June 14 2024 04:29 Koshi wrote:
Page count from dmb = 8
Page count from slam = 8
88 stands for Heil H*****
Vivax has been going off about Austrian politics all game.

Coincidence? I think not.

Kill Nazis, vote 88, vote DMB/Slam

Best post 2088
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 20:59 GMT
#4063
Is this the day when we are all FRIENDS and then lynch mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 22:57 GMT
#4077
On June 14 2024 06:07 Alakaslam wrote:
IT DON WORK NO MORE I HAZ 9 PAGE OOOOOOOHHHHHHH OOOOHHHHHH OOOOHHHHHHHHH. WHAT U DO NOW

Oooogooohooooogooooo-ooo caught in a bad romance
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 22:57 GMT
#4078
On June 14 2024 06:59 Koshi wrote:
So rayn. I am off to bed.

Wait what? :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 23:00 GMT
#4079
Oh shit i am sorry Koshi. I invited a friend over.
Who do you want to lynch an who not. I will tell mt opinion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 23:05 GMT
#4080
Trfel you here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 23:07 GMT
#4081
On June 14 2024 04:25 Koshi wrote:
I think mafia is Slam and DMB now.

Is this your answer? I think you are wrong on both.
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