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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:07 GMT
#3714
Jealous also probably town and I need to reread DMB after I reread JAT
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:21 GMT
#3720
On March 07 2024 11:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 11:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
OK I'm caught up. No way scum shoots me with everyone who decided it was time for the D2 MZ scum read a little early but in case someone was inspired to vigi me I've got the following for scum in order of confidence:

JSL for stuff I've previously posted about
VE for completely fucking off from the game when the pressure let up from him
TTS for also completely fucking off
Marv based on vibes and his refusal to interact with the thread outside of the mason group.
JAT (but this is a weak read since my vote on him was more because I thought he was scummier, worth a revisit for me)

I'm no longer scumreading cop but I just wish she would answer my questions about JSL

Town reads who I'm never gonna lynch are:
Sandroba
Vivax
DP
Koshi

I mean, this is so close to being my own list that it's kinda eerie. A few names are missing a few I'd move - Marv and JAT to neutral at worst IMO - but that's about it.

Like I said to rayn, this doesn't necessarily make me think that you're town for this, though.

Yeah I could easily swap out JAT if I find a stronger case in someone like DMB. I hated coming back to the D1 lynch with such little time to decide and JAT just looked worse than trfel to me and trfel had interacted with me in the beginning.

I think I'm a little more certain of marv based on some meta stuff from my last game where he was scum. I'd rather focus on JSL or TTS/VE for tomorrow and worry about Marv D3 bc if he makes it that long I'm gonna have a lot more questions.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:22 GMT
#3721
Who is missing off my list in your opinion jealous?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:37 GMT
#3734
On March 07 2024 11:29 Jealous wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Who is missing off my list in your opinion jealous?

Maybe Rels, more likely CopCake IMO, and I wouldn't have minded to see someone else put rayn on there so I could bounce ideas off of them.

What's your take on rayn if you have one btw?

See this is why I really wanted to hear her take on JSL because she was the one who initially got me looking his way and the comment she made about his meta was such a townie way of thinking it made me reevaluate her. I also don't see her trying to bus JSL although to be fair she hasn't gone after him very hard.

Tbh I completely forgot about Rels lol, maybe that's also worth looking into.

My opinion of rayn is that he calls me scum every game and I hate the way he approaches the game lol. The worst thing he's done imo is go after palmar but I could see him doing that as town. I also don't see a world where the scum masons just mason each other, if they did and win the game then hats off to them. So that's a lot of words to say I have a null read on him
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:42 GMT
#3736
On March 07 2024 11:40 Rels wrote:
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On March 06 2024 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:15 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:10 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:09 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:56 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 13:42 CopCake wrote:
I came with some conclusions

Town:
Koshi
Slam
Rels
Marv
MZ
Oats

Feels town
VE

Mafia
DP
Iamp
Vivax

The rest are wild cards

I disagree with this enough for it to be town


What is wrong with it sweet pie?

I’d be shocked if iamp or Vivax are mafia.
Wouldn’t be shocked by DP but I don’t think so either


What about my town pile?

I’m not sure about Rels or MZ.


I think Rels felt genuine and interested, i think he could have easily blended with people if he was mafia.

You think he’s had an impact?

WTF is this standard? When is the last time I've had an impact D1? I hate those
Fuck this is annoying me. I feel like I'm being set up as the next lynch. Sick daughter, maybe getting laid off so I have a bunch of interviews coming up for which I have to prepare, but I have the feeling I'll have to devote my evenings to analyze the game and the days to scream at people like in the old days just to not be the default lynch

I have some thoughts on this topic I'd love to discuss with everyone post game.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:54 GMT
#3742
On March 07 2024 11:43 JacobStrangelove wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:29 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Who is missing off my list in your opinion jealous?

Maybe Rels, more likely CopCake IMO, and I wouldn't have minded to see someone else put rayn on there so I could bounce ideas off of them.

What's your take on rayn if you have one btw?

See this is why I really wanted to hear her take on JSL because she was the one who initially got me looking his way and the comment she made about his meta was such a townie way of thinking it made me reevaluate her. I also don't see her trying to bus JSL although to be fair she hasn't gone after him very hard.


I think she did say something but only something minor after your case. Which I'll actually probably have to convince you I'm town later now that I went back through trifel and he thought you were town.

I'm not concerned right now though I want to see if anyone else bites and if so how they do it.

Jacob you seem like a nice guy and I'd enjoy playing with you if I thought you were town but honestly man, the way you sheep here is really bothering me. In particular the bolded part. You've been putting soft pressure my way for a while but now that you realize the flipped town called me green you're waffling on it (also timely that jealous said he agreed with a lot of my reads). Your lynch vote you claim was based on voting with players you thought were town so you came off the dude who you had previously wanted dead.

It just feels like you want to be on the "right side" of whatever the current thread sentiment is.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 02:59 GMT
#3752
On March 07 2024 11:58 JacobStrangelove wrote:
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On March 07 2024 11:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:43 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:29 Jealous wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Who is missing off my list in your opinion jealous?

Maybe Rels, more likely CopCake IMO, and I wouldn't have minded to see someone else put rayn on there so I could bounce ideas off of them.

What's your take on rayn if you have one btw?

See this is why I really wanted to hear her take on JSL because she was the one who initially got me looking his way and the comment she made about his meta was such a townie way of thinking it made me reevaluate her. I also don't see her trying to bus JSL although to be fair she hasn't gone after him very hard.


I think she did say something but only something minor after your case. Which I'll actually probably have to convince you I'm town later now that I went back through trifel and he thought you were town.

I'm not concerned right now though I want to see if anyone else bites and if so how they do it.

Jacob you seem like a nice guy and I'd enjoy playing with you if I thought you were town but honestly man, the way you sheep here is really bothering me. In particular the bolded part. You've been putting soft pressure my way for a while but now that you realize the flipped town called me green you're waffling on it (also timely that jealous said he agreed with a lot of my reads). Your lynch vote you claim was based on voting with players you thought were town so you came off the dude who you had previously wanted dead.

It just feels like you want to be on the "right side" of whatever the current thread sentiment is.


Oh I previously wanted them both dead so there was no love lost on which one I was voting for. I was just seeing a counterwagon very quickly 4 votes and was paranoid about the scum team voting to save their teammate. in hindsight isn't the case but that was the reasoning at the time.

That's literally not the reason you gave when you made your vote
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 03:10 GMT
#3766
Jealous that's a quick draw on that vote, love to hear your thoughts on JSL based on the interaction he and I had just prior to the night post
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 03:17 GMT
#3796
On March 07 2024 12:13 Vivax wrote:
Unless ofc slam is mafia and really wants a cc

Highly doubt this. It's similar to you claiming on D1 if you were scum. You made your play so imo you should be believing Slam's check.

The only way this isn't legit is if there was a framer or a miller but I'm willing to lynch the check to find out.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 03:41 GMT
#3877
On March 07 2024 12:36 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:30 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
ANNOUNCEMENT TOWN

I have been given a Vig shot in the night.

I intend to VIG TTS.


whoa whoa whoa so we allegedly have 4 blues. 3 really strong ones and one weak one ?


Is gunsmith that weak>


So you aren't scared of a rollblocker? I guess jailkeeper is still alive... not sure why you wouldn't keep that quiet until night.


YES I KNOW I FORGOT ABOUT A ROLEBLOCKER


I'm over here facepalming. Although that does seem like a town move to make.



Okay thoughts town should gunsmith claim now? No reason not to right?


DP getting it points at you already.



Yeah okay, initially I was giving it to Koshi but then I started reading Koshi's filter hence my random flip on Koshi out of nowhere when I saw the scum slip.

I then thought probably DP because Rayn or Sand are the most town to most of town and most likely to be killed (although I had a pm open with give gun to ray ready to go as I was trying to snipe DP's post to know if I SHOULD give it to him or not)

Also backed up by DP talking a lot about what he wanted VIG to do and thus if he did something cray I could pin it on him later.

and yeah it's one shot gunsmith clarified with Grack..

Now if this isn't clearly enough proof I'm gun smith just from game state. I breadcrumbed initially giving gun to Koshi in the gay thread. well not like breakcrumbed breadcrumbed but implied I was all in on his conspiracy plan (the one AMERICAN of the classy group who HUNTED FOX's) Then if you noticed all my talk about how many blues are there after jack of all trades died. then my talk before the night ended concerned more with finding the most town person to give gun to rather than scum hunting.




Well it sounds like I need to rethink my scumread of you unless you and one of my best townreads in DP are making a turboscum play with a mafia vigilante type role. But still it relies on you going unCC'd which as I've said ad nauseum at this point is so dumb I'm not going to entertain it in this situation.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 03:54 GMT
#3921
On March 07 2024 12:49 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Also MZ Fair I looked scummy I see that but now I've claimed Gunsmith any other thoughts on your top read aside from oats?

Probably just going to the next on the list to VE at the moment, nothing he's posted in the last hour or so has done anything to change my mind on him and if not it's gotten worse imo.

I do still owe a reread of DMB and JAT
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 03:55 GMT
#3925
On March 07 2024 12:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On March 07 2024 12:40 iamperfection wrote:
Oats your mission should you choose to accept it is to spew as much towness as possible this cycle. Then we can lynch VE if not i salute you my friend.

In this thread inferior player iamp tries to use the last of his activity clout to get superior scum hunter VE lynched or of spite. Sad.

@JSL like this post sounds like resigned scum who doesn't have much to talk about and is watching one of their team members go down to a red check.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 04:09 GMT
#3951
On March 07 2024 13:03 DarthPunk wrote:
I got masoned by Jealous.

So Koshi got his wish and maybe I will post a bit less.

I masoned Palmar because I wanted to poke him into posting more.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 04:42 GMT
#4009
Copcake is there a realm in your mind in which both Slam and Oats are scum or Slam is scum and for some reason trying to go for a 1for1 trade?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 04:51 GMT
#4018
On March 07 2024 13:48 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 13:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Copcake is there a realm in your mind in which both Slam and Oats are scum or Slam is scum and for some reason trying to go for a 1for1 trade?


No


Ok so talk me through your issues with slam then, why are you going after him right now of all times?
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 04:54 GMT
#4023
It bothers me that slam makes this post

On March 07 2024 13:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote:
why did mafia not shoot slam, or even roleblock him?

My current hypothesis is they have a framer and felt good about him checking me

God damn it, he is good, he has me wifoming myself to death. I am almost considering unvote

And then copcake starts pouring on the pressure. Like the only way Oats survives the day if he's scum is if his team can somehow get people to doubt the check. It doesn't matter the reasons for the doubt but enough people overthink a red check, oats could wiggle out.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 05:00 GMT
#4028
On March 07 2024 13:54 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 13:40 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 07 2024 13:32 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 13:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 07 2024 13:04 CopCake wrote:
On March 07 2024 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:26 JacobStrangelove wrote:
[quote]

So you aren't scared of a rollblocker? I guess jailkeeper is still alive... not sure why you wouldn't keep that quiet until night.


YES I KNOW I FORGOT ABOUT A ROLEBLOCKER


I'm over here facepalming. Although that does seem like a town move to make.



Okay thoughts town should gunsmith claim now? No reason not to right?

Fuck no

They can give more guns away


Btw baby boy, why did you pick Oats of all people?


Because I was 99% I'mma be dead

Might as well know whether the pedantic stuff was real or not before I go to obs. I was expecting to banter with Grack about "I don't wanna be spoiled except Oats alignment so I can troll obs" but

Well

Here I am


Where was Oats Pedantic?


Hijole

You know what pedantic means, I presume?

Oats was pedantic with regard to YOU

🤣


I dont think he was 🤔 I would have gotten mad otherwise.

Ie. I found jelaous more pedantic.

I would assume you would go for someone like rayn, but it makes sense that if you were about to die you picked Oats.

I would assume it also makes sense for mafia Oats to kill rayn.

If mafia, for some reason assumed you were cop, they would believe you would visit someone else so i think oats is not framed.

Miller? Idk if it would be balanced to have framer and miller in the same game.

@marv / koshi

In balance talk, what do you think of this?


Yet more doubt on the check from you.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 05:08 GMT
#4038
On March 07 2024 14:00 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 13:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
It bothers me that slam makes this post

On March 07 2024 13:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote:
why did mafia not shoot slam, or even roleblock him?

My current hypothesis is they have a framer and felt good about him checking me

God damn it, he is good, he has me wifoming myself to death. I am almost considering unvote

And then copcake starts pouring on the pressure. Like the only way Oats survives the day if he's scum is if his team can somehow get people to doubt the check. It doesn't matter the reasons for the doubt but enough people overthink a red check, oats could wiggle out.


I ask those questions to clear every possible scenario. But Slam/Oats mafia together is not happening.

Slam’s choice of Oats seemed weird but I liked Slam’s answer.

It makes sense and fits his persona. (Even tho I dont think Oats was being pedantic)

Besides Slam doing whole “i am a lying cop” doesnt fit his personality either.

Then why are you having this conversation. This is really a pretty binary situation, we lynch oats. He flips miller/scum. We move on. He flips town, we have a discussion on D3 that you're trying to have right now. This theorycrafting you're doing is unproductive and gives a red check (WHO IS STATISTICALLY MOST LIKELY SCUM) a chance to escape. Before the NK, there are 19 people left, I'm bad at math so I used an internet calculator and maybe I set the equation up wrong but the probability of slam checking someone AND the probability of them being framed/the miller is 0.025% + Show Spoiler +
(I think that's a %, I'm ready to get flamed by people who actually do math to tell me I'm wrong).
Me personally, I'm taking that every time.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 05:10 GMT
#4041
On March 07 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote:
So in conclusion

oats is either mafia or miller. I would go mafia for Rayn’s death.

So

##vote: Oats

Welcome to the correct answer 12 pages later.

I'm going to bed now
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 07 2024 05:23 GMT
#4061
On March 07 2024 14:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Okay that mz post just triggered me so hard like what in the actual fuck was that.

I admit it's a pretty gross mathematical error at best...

I still think it is closer to 1 in 40 though because the percentages don't stack. It isn't so much math as it is statistics. Which is a related, but different field.

I was a russian language major

https://www.calculator.net/probability-calculator.html?cal1pa=.05&cal1pb=.05&calctype=twoe&x=Calculate
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