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On March 07 2024 11:16 Jealous wrote: I mean, this is so close to being my own list that it's kinda eerie. A few names are missing a few I'd move - Marv and JAT to neutral at worst IMO - but that's about it. Like I said to rayn, this doesn't necessarily make me think that you're town for this, though. Yeah I could easily swap out JAT if I find a stronger case in someone like DMB. I hated coming back to the D1 lynch with such little time to decide and JAT just looked worse than trfel to me and trfel had interacted with me in the beginning. I think I'm a little more certain of marv based on some meta stuff from my last game where he was scum. I'd rather focus on JSL or TTS/VE for tomorrow and worry about Marv D3 bc if he makes it that long I'm gonna have a lot more questions. | ||
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On March 07 2024 11:29 Jealous wrote: Maybe Rels, more likely CopCake IMO, and I wouldn't have minded to see someone else put rayn on there so I could bounce ideas off of them. What's your take on rayn if you have one btw? See this is why I really wanted to hear her take on JSL because she was the one who initially got me looking his way and the comment she made about his meta was such a townie way of thinking it made me reevaluate her. I also don't see her trying to bus JSL although to be fair she hasn't gone after him very hard. Tbh I completely forgot about Rels lol, maybe that's also worth looking into. My opinion of rayn is that he calls me scum every game and I hate the way he approaches the game lol. The worst thing he's done imo is go after palmar but I could see him doing that as town. I also don't see a world where the scum masons just mason each other, if they did and win the game then hats off to them. So that's a lot of words to say I have a null read on him | ||
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On March 07 2024 11:40 Rels wrote: WTF is this standard? When is the last time I've had an impact D1? I hate those Fuck this is annoying me. I feel like I'm being set up as the next lynch. Sick daughter, maybe getting laid off so I have a bunch of interviews coming up for which I have to prepare, but I have the feeling I'll have to devote my evenings to analyze the game and the days to scream at people like in the old days just to not be the default lynch I have some thoughts on this topic I'd love to discuss with everyone post game. | ||
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On March 07 2024 11:43 JacobStrangelove wrote: I think she did say something but only something minor after your case. Which I'll actually probably have to convince you I'm town later now that I went back through trifel and he thought you were town. I'm not concerned right now though I want to see if anyone else bites and if so how they do it. Jacob you seem like a nice guy and I'd enjoy playing with you if I thought you were town but honestly man, the way you sheep here is really bothering me. In particular the bolded part. You've been putting soft pressure my way for a while but now that you realize the flipped town called me green you're waffling on it (also timely that jealous said he agreed with a lot of my reads). Your lynch vote you claim was based on voting with players you thought were town so you came off the dude who you had previously wanted dead. It just feels like you want to be on the "right side" of whatever the current thread sentiment is. | ||
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On March 07 2024 11:58 JacobStrangelove wrote: Oh I previously wanted them both dead so there was no love lost on which one I was voting for. I was just seeing a counterwagon very quickly 4 votes and was paranoid about the scum team voting to save their teammate. in hindsight isn't the case but that was the reasoning at the time. That's literally not the reason you gave when you made your vote | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:13 Vivax wrote: Unless ofc slam is mafia and really wants a cc Highly doubt this. It's similar to you claiming on D1 if you were scum. You made your play so imo you should be believing Slam's check. The only way this isn't legit is if there was a framer or a miller but I'm willing to lynch the check to find out. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:36 JacobStrangelove wrote: Yeah okay, initially I was giving it to Koshi but then I started reading Koshi's filter hence my random flip on Koshi out of nowhere when I saw the scum slip. I then thought probably DP because Rayn or Sand are the most town to most of town and most likely to be killed (although I had a pm open with give gun to ray ready to go as I was trying to snipe DP's post to know if I SHOULD give it to him or not) Also backed up by DP talking a lot about what he wanted VIG to do and thus if he did something cray I could pin it on him later. and yeah it's one shot gunsmith clarified with Grack.. Now if this isn't clearly enough proof I'm gun smith just from game state. I breadcrumbed initially giving gun to Koshi in the gay thread. well not like breakcrumbed breadcrumbed but implied I was all in on his conspiracy plan (the one AMERICAN of the classy group who HUNTED FOX's) Then if you noticed all my talk about how many blues are there after jack of all trades died. then my talk before the night ended concerned more with finding the most town person to give gun to rather than scum hunting. Well it sounds like I need to rethink my scumread of you unless you and one of my best townreads in DP are making a turboscum play with a mafia vigilante type role. But still it relies on you going unCC'd which as I've said ad nauseum at this point is so dumb I'm not going to entertain it in this situation. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:49 JacobStrangelove wrote: Also MZ Fair I looked scummy I see that but now I've claimed Gunsmith any other thoughts on your top read aside from oats? Probably just going to the next on the list to VE at the moment, nothing he's posted in the last hour or so has done anything to change my mind on him and if not it's gotten worse imo. I do still owe a reread of DMB and JAT | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:48 VisceraEyes wrote: In this thread inferior player iamp tries to use the last of his activity clout to get superior scum hunter VE lynched or of spite. Sad. @JSL like this post sounds like resigned scum who doesn't have much to talk about and is watching one of their team members go down to a red check. | ||
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On March 07 2024 13:03 DarthPunk wrote: I got masoned by Jealous. So Koshi got his wish and maybe I will post a bit less. I masoned Palmar because I wanted to poke him into posting more. | ||
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Ok so talk me through your issues with slam then, why are you going after him right now of all times? | ||
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On March 07 2024 13:20 Alakaslam wrote: God damn it, he is good, he has me wifoming myself to death. I am almost considering unvote And then copcake starts pouring on the pressure. Like the only way Oats survives the day if he's scum is if his team can somehow get people to doubt the check. It doesn't matter the reasons for the doubt but enough people overthink a red check, oats could wiggle out. | ||
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On March 07 2024 13:54 CopCake wrote: I dont think he was 🤔 I would have gotten mad otherwise. Ie. I found jelaous more pedantic. I would assume you would go for someone like rayn, but it makes sense that if you were about to die you picked Oats. I would assume it also makes sense for mafia Oats to kill rayn. If mafia, for some reason assumed you were cop, they would believe you would visit someone else so i think oats is not framed. Miller? Idk if it would be balanced to have framer and miller in the same game. @marv / koshi In balance talk, what do you think of this? Yet more doubt on the check from you. | ||
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On March 07 2024 14:00 CopCake wrote: I ask those questions to clear every possible scenario. But Slam/Oats mafia together is not happening. Slam’s choice of Oats seemed weird but I liked Slam’s answer. It makes sense and fits his persona. (Even tho I dont think Oats was being pedantic) Besides Slam doing whole “i am a lying cop” doesnt fit his personality either. Then why are you having this conversation. This is really a pretty binary situation, we lynch oats. He flips miller/scum. We move on. He flips town, we have a discussion on D3 that you're trying to have right now. This theorycrafting you're doing is unproductive and gives a red check (WHO IS STATISTICALLY MOST LIKELY SCUM) a chance to escape. Before the NK, there are 19 people left, I'm bad at math so I used an internet calculator and maybe I set the equation up wrong but the probability of slam checking someone AND the probability of them being framed/the miller is 0.025% + Show Spoiler + (I think that's a %, I'm ready to get flamed by people who actually do math to tell me I'm wrong). | ||
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On March 07 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote: So in conclusion oats is either mafia or miller. I would go mafia for Rayn’s death. So ##vote: Oats Welcome to the correct answer 12 pages later. I'm going to bed now | ||
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On March 07 2024 14:19 Alakaslam wrote: I admit it's a pretty gross mathematical error at best... I still think it is closer to 1 in 40 though because the percentages don't stack. It isn't so much math as it is statistics. Which is a related, but different field. I was a russian language major https://www.calculator.net/probability-calculator.html?cal1pa=.05&cal1pb=.05&calctype=twoe&x=Calculate | ||
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