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On March 18 2024 11:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 18 2024 11:06 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 10:53 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 10:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Jealous town reads me all game and then makes that vote? Might as well come clean about those reads I mentioned earlier. I thought long and hard about it and I put both you and Vivax in my Pivot Tier. The streets are red with townie blood. Under the leadership of Vivax and DP, we have only lynched town. When reason fails, we have to invert reason. So, either both of you are scum, or you are scum. You said so yourself, basically. So, the inverted world logic demands that you are scum. If you're town, I'm sorry. If you're scum, masterfully played, but... ![[image loading]](https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-29-2023/AdIpRo.gif) On March 18 2024 10:56 Jealous wrote:
I'm not moving. I was wrong Vivax There. I said it. This is my fault and this post is exactly what you were talking about all day. I‘m not mad if you mislynch but saying it‘s my fault you don‘t switch to the Jealous because I briefly shenannied off is very rude
I wasn't saying it was your fault I wasn't switching to Jealous, just that you couldn't blame me that I didn't switch because I was open about wanting Palmar.
I'm fucking pissed, I'm gonna go do something else with my time and cool off.
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On March 18 2024 11:14 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 11:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 18 2024 11:09 Vivax wrote:On March 18 2024 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 18 2024 11:06 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 10:53 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 10:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Jealous town reads me all game and then makes that vote? Might as well come clean about those reads I mentioned earlier. I thought long and hard about it and I put both you and Vivax in my Pivot Tier. The streets are red with townie blood. Under the leadership of Vivax and DP, we have only lynched town. When reason fails, we have to invert reason. So, either both of you are scum, or you are scum. You said so yourself, basically. So, the inverted world logic demands that you are scum. If you're town, I'm sorry. If you're scum, masterfully played, but... On March 18 2024 10:56 Jealous wrote:
I'm not moving. I was wrong Vivax There. I said it. This is my fault and this post is exactly what you were talking about all day. I‘m not mad if you mislynch but saying it‘s my fault you don‘t switch to the Jealous because I briefly shenannied off is very rude I wasn't saying it was your fault I wasn't switching to Jealous, just that you couldn't blame me that I didn't switch because I was open about wanting Palmar. I'm fucking pissed, I'm gonna go do something else with my time and cool off. You know two mafia now what‘s not to like
I was wrong, that's what's not to like.
But I guess that is a silver lining.
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I'm flying today and going on a trip so it's gonna be a lot of phone posting for me. Probably just gonna sheep vivax a fair bit since I owe him that much.
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I'm gonna be phone posting forever, I'm at an exercise with no wifi.
I'm trying to wrap my head around how scum DMB plays yesterday the way she did when Palmar was town. I guess it could be chalked up to wild scum play but it would have been so easy for her to park her vote on Palmar and fuck off if she and Jealous are both scum.
I'm still leaning towards sheeping vivax at this point and voting jealous, he tried for 3 days to get that lynch and between his flip and the amount of opposition to Jealous I can't help but feel like he was on to something.
I totally think the way DMB played yesterday was terrible for town and scummy without context, but can someone who is voting DMB explain how you're reconciling the fact that Palmar was a safe place for scum DMB to park her vote, regardless of Jealous's alignment. Like in the context of the day, why does she do that?
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On March 19 2024 13:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Mz you realise if you are town we all need to be on the same wagon right?
Yes I know, we have time to discuss and I want to make sure I understand the DMB scum argument here.
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On March 19 2024 13:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Rels already talked about the mafia motivation for DMB's behaviour
It's almost impossible for me to use the filter function right now, can you link or quote the post?
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OK I reread the night post and beyond as best I could but I'm not really seeing anything that directly addresses my question, since Palmar was town, why does DMB do what she did?
I'm not gonna argue she looks absolutely terrible yesterday, but it's mylo so I want to be certain of my vote when I place it. Rels please address why scum DMB does what she did when town Palmar was available for her to vote for and probably not end up in the spotlight the same way she is right now. Also does vivax flip change any of how you're reading?
I'm going to feel like I've committed a deep wound to my honor if I don't sheep Vivax like i said I would, especially after he died and isn't here to lead that lynch.
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I have to sleep now but I might have a little time in the morning to sneak on my phone.
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OK voting DMB so we don't split here.
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On March 20 2024 01:17 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:
So, mafia is clearly bussing if she is scum. But I guess that can be expected. Yea, it feels like it was almost too easy, right? Got me paranoid af.
That's why I asked Rels the questions I did earlier, but I can't be the only one not voting otherwise it opens the path to shenanigans so I voted.
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On March 20 2024 01:29 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2024 01:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 20 2024 01:17 Jealous wrote:On March 20 2024 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:
So, mafia is clearly bussing if she is scum. But I guess that can be expected. Yea, it feels like it was almost too easy, right? Got me paranoid af. That's why I asked Rels the questions I did earlier, but I can't be the only one not voting otherwise it opens the path to shenanigans so I voted. Still got more then 24 hours if someone wants to make a better argument.
Yeah true, I'd really love for Rels to respond directly to me at some point.
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On March 20 2024 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Why did you vote Jealous immediately at start of day?
Just about to ask this myself, kinda feels like she's opportunistically trying to vote whoever she thinks others will follow her on. Vivax had jealous lined up last night, maybe she thought more would bite, I was certainly leaning that way initially.
And now the DP vote since that got traction yesterday.
Won't be surprised if she tries Rels later. The trick is going to be figuring out if she's bussing or just trying to throw us off her teammates for tomorrow.
I still think Jealous is a reasonable teammate for her to have, one of the only ways yesterday makes sense.
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On March 20 2024 11:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2024 14:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
OK I reread the night post and beyond as best I could but I'm not really seeing anything that directly addresses my question, since Palmar was town, why does DMB do what she did?
I'm not gonna argue she looks absolutely terrible yesterday, but it's mylo so I want to be certain of my vote when I place it. Rels please address why scum DMB does what she did when town Palmar was available for her to vote for and probably not end up in the spotlight the same way she is right now. Also does vivax flip change any of how you're reading?
I'm going to feel like I've committed a deep wound to my honor if I don't sheep Vivax like i said I would, especially after he died and isn't here to lead that lynch. Is the question, why didn't she push Palmar? My guess is that it was a play together with Jealous to appear like partners not really wanting to push each other. If that's true, that was really beautifully played
OK I can see this line of thinking, I can also see scum feeling the need to pull big plays as the game goes late.
I haven't been happy with DMBs posts today, I'm not gonna lie I had the same thought Jealous did regarding DMB's German post, tbh I'd put that in the same category as Jealous "forgetting" Koshi was dead in his meticulously color coded post flip post.
I have had a long as fuck day and it's going to be another long one tomorrow. I will also not be around for the end of day as I've got a flight tomorrow night. I am going to wake up and try to reread what's been posted over the last 24 hours and make a final determination at that point.
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On March 20 2024 11:31 Rels wrote:
And to answer JAT, I didn't see anything from DMB that couldn't come from scum. I disagree that the dumb tunnel and aggressiveness cannot come from scum!her, since she was similar in the other scum game she played
I also think Jealous is scum though, also didn't see anything that would have changed my mind, not a fan of most of his posts today, ironically except the ones on DMB (I guess it's easier when you have to case an actual scum ...)
Would prefer a DMB flip today, but whatever happens while I'm away tomorrow, I'll vote with the majority. I'll be around for the lynch, on my phone in the worst case
This post pretty solidly sums up my thoughts as well. I just can't decide whether a DMB or Jealous flip helps us more for tomorrow. That's probably what we need to focus on now.
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I've reread the day so far and I'm staying on DMB. Scum is bussing at this point but we need a red flip in order to get to tomorrow.
Plus I agree with perfection, we've failed at every shenanigans we've attempted so far so I'm comfortable just staying the course right now and untangling the last two tomorrow.
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Thank god it's over, I hate playing scum.
I'm sure I've nuked my town meta for all time but I wanna make one thing clear, when I say I'm gone for flying that's legit, not an excuse to not be active. I just got back from stuff tonight.
I have some thoughts on some things from this game, one of which is the idea of using activity as a heuristic for scum reading people. I'll try and share them when I get home from this exercise next week if people are still interested.
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On March 21 2024 22:51 Palmar wrote:
My ass just so damn lynchable
We had to lynch you once we learned you were the BG, that day was do or die for us and tbh I think town should have caught DP and I based on that day because we definitely overplayed our hand there. My only advantage is that I was calling you scum from the day before.
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BH are you gonna do an analysis or will that come after the British empire analysis?
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