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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 07:36 GMT
#521
Actually maybe it's a reasonable read from you..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 07:43 GMT
#524
On March 04 2024 16:34 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 04 2024 16:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol at Trfel null read.


Why?

I'd rather hear first from TTS why he (she?) thinks Trfel is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 07:44 GMT
#525
On March 04 2024 16:38 DarthPunk wrote:

I called him mafia all game incorrectly last game and I want to call him mafia again.

Yeah i have no idea why anyone thought he was mafia last game like 5 hrs into the game lol :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 07:48 GMT
#526
On March 04 2024 16:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Are you just going to snipe at me from the sidelines this game?


No i just think you have some unreasonable reads. Namely Cake and Slam.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 07:59 GMT
#528
It's very easy to follow Cake's thought process on your "problem" with her. If she is mafia, your reasoning is definitely not why she is mafia. It's not her problem if you didn't understand she called Trfel and DMB town, hell i can even easily follow her reasoning. Just because she is being abrasive towards you (or you think so) doesn't make her mafia.

Slam has actually posted some scummy shit which i will come back to later. Also his town meta imo contradicts heavily his MO this game, yet you are somehow unwilling to make any conclusion about his alignment so far.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 08:08 GMT
#529
Cake do you think DP's reasoning for calling you mafia last game when you were actually mafia was good?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 08:14 GMT
#531
I am home in ~4,5hrs. Then i have more time (to write).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 09:47 GMT
#541
On March 04 2024 18:40 marvellosity wrote:
Just curious how people here (Vivax? Maybe others?) would characterise DP’s scumplay on ms compared to his recent towngames here?

Pretty similar to his townplay. It's probably easier to catch him on TL since it's harder to build cases that look legit as mafia here. I mean like pretty much almost everything looked scummy there lol.. He made some small errors that a player of his caliber shouldn't make, unfortunately they hammered obv town Oats D2 when i was asleep and then i died.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 10:47 GMT
#550
Fair Cake.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 12:08 GMT
#576
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 12:14 GMT
#581
On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia.


Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right?

No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 13:32 GMT
#614
On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia.


Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right?

No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment.


What did it mean about that?

Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things.

If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment.

I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia.

I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment.
1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point
2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't.
Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 13:33 GMT
#616
Trfel looks too clean, it worries me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 13:37 GMT
#620
On March 04 2024 22:34 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 04 2024 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia.


Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right?

No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment.


What did it mean about that?

Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things.

If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment.

I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia.

I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment.
1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point
2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't.
Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town?

Yes they can.

I can like the same things you did specifically point out, and like that you don't agree with 100%.

Cause that is where I was at.

DP literally said "these things make Cake mafia", and i said "these things don't make Cake mafia".
You can't agree with both.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 14:03 GMT
#625
I can also accuse you of lack of paranoia. It's the only thing that bothers me in your play but it's actually quite a big thing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 14:30 GMT
#641
On March 04 2024 23:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2024 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think Cake is town?
I think ytour points 1 and 2 dont make her mafia, which i was kind of arguing. I think your point 3 is alid and it actually can make her mafia.


Well you said my scum read on her was unreasonable so that kind of implied you thought she was town right?

No that doesn't mean that. It was more about my read on you rather than Cake's alignment.


What did it mean about that?

Im gonna answer this and then continue in the same post with other things.

If your read looks unreasonable to me, it might indicate you're mafia. Cake's alignment doesnt matter here at all since its not out of question you would make a shitty scumread even on your partner, just to back off from it later on. Its just that if you make a shitty read, that implicates you being mafia, regardless of the other person's alignment.

I take back my town read on Trfel, i thought i saw something there when i was reading the thread at work but re-reading now that something didn't actually exist. Trfel could very well be mafia.

I am still considering Slam mafia, and it's not a meta read. Sure at first it started as a meta read when he looked more serious and laid back than usual. That can be explained with his rl-situation. However, there should be simply no way he is considering me as his best vote for mayor at the moment.
1) I have openly stated he is my only scumread in the game at that point
2) DP makes points about Cake, Slam calls all of them good points. I disagree with 2/3 of those points, Slam STILL goes like "oh rayn makes very good point" -- both of those things can't be in his head, either DP's points are good or they are not in his opinion, yet he's saying they both are and they aren't.
Furhtermore i don't in any case understand why he is making a list of who he is preferring as mayor in which order. He said before game he would want Hapa for mayor, why doesn't he even wait for Hapa to post while starting to campign "rayn for mayor" when it doesn't even make any sense for him to do so if he is town?

For the uninitiated, why can’t Slam do this as town?

I don't think he can't per se. I just think he wouldn't. Like let's be honest Slam is voting either Hapa, marv or rayn for mayor (unless he has to pick someone else), mostly Hapa.

I can't possibly understand why he makes posts like:
"Liked trfel and now considering voting trfel for mayor"
or
"Second pick is VE, he has some decent logic on why he would lurker lynch."

Is he ever going to actually vote for either of those people for mayor? Especially VE for THAT reasoning? I just don't see the point of putting it like that. It's kind of a townread but still not really.

And i can't possibly understand why he wants me for mayor, why would you EVER want anyone for mayor who wants to lynch you??? Just because i agreed with 2 of his reads like 3 hours into the game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 14:31 GMT
#644
Well Vivax' reads list is mostly fine for me so maybe i am just dumb for thinking about the paranoia shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 14:52 GMT
#657
I don't understand the case Vivax, can you sum it up?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 14:53 GMT
#658
I mean your sandroba suspicion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 04 2024 15:24 GMT
#663
On March 05 2024 00:12 iamperfection wrote:
I have been thinking about the whisperer. There is no reason not to claim it immediately if your town no? I think so right? As in I am the whisperer and I whispered so and so.

What does it benefit if you claim it?
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