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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 21:29 GMT
#798
I'm waiting on someone to feed an AI all my mafia posts over the last 15 years and see what it does.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 21:58 GMT
#817
On June 11 2023 06:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 21:43 Hapahauli wrote:
Kids these days.


This post is bomb btw

Impressive



Goats these days.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:23 GMT
#847
On June 11 2023 07:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 06:54 Chezinu wrote:
##unvote
##vote raynpelikoneet


?

He made a rude comment after I already address him.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:25 GMT
#851
On June 11 2023 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master

I just really dont believe DMB writes this as town based on last game. Like fuck... no way.

I painted DMB name red earlier.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:26 GMT
#853
Everybody be like but that emotion therefore they are.

I say

Emotional Damage!!!!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:27 GMT
#855
For now on, I'm calling you guys emo readers for deciding people's alignments based on their emotions.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:27 GMT
#856
On June 11 2023 07:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 04:39 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.


Cakeroni, who’s pretending to scumhunt here?


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On June 11 2023 06:17 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Re: CopCake

Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game.


Copcake is aggressive in a way that would come natural for town, but would have to be faked for wolf. Is Copcake a faker with a poker face or not?



Like you think this might be going somewhere, but where is it going? It's alluding to having reads but not actually having a read.

Is this like an edgy meta from another site?

Anyway don't like this.


Everybody be pointing them fingers. Watch out you got three coming your way.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:29 GMT
#859
On June 11 2023 07:28 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 11 2023 07:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Truth to be told Cake can easily fake emotion and crazy posting as mafia, i jsut don't think this is it.


To be clear, I am not reading Cake as town solely because she is displaying emotion. I look for what emotions people should be displaying given the circumstances, and Cake lines up well.

Whereas, MZ does not to me (grandstanding on LS seems like manufactured indignation in context).

Literally all of your points against me Hapa are that you don't like the tone of my posts. Go read Marv's "analysis" of me last game and then reference my VT flip. I'm not gonna waste thread space arguing with people about my "tone" or whatever you want to call it two games in a row.


I'm also going to put it out there that MZ was incorrectly tunnelled last game. Got hit with a storm, get's vigged. Joins this game and then is basically tunneled again for similar reasons.

Makes sense to be snarky, if we are town reading for emotional congruence.

If you are town, you should be focusing on the AFK mafias enjoying the lynch.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:30 GMT
#860
On June 11 2023 07:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:27 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 04:39 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:15 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?


Tbh this is a normal way to start the game. Of course we can´t know already who is who or if somebody make scum or not. Its imposible to manage it in the first 10 posts of the game and just 3-4 players are active right now. But how else should the game get started. It seems like a normal questing to just ignore chez and slam usually meme/troll posts. Somebody has to make a start here and this is just a normal way. Only second game here but seems normal to me (for now)


This.


Not always, mafia can pretend to “scumhunt” and engage conversation.


Cakeroni, who’s pretending to scumhunt here?


On June 11 2023 06:17 Vayoletta wrote:
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Re: CopCake

Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game.


Copcake is aggressive in a way that would come natural for town, but would have to be faked for wolf. Is Copcake a faker with a poker face or not?



Like you think this might be going somewhere, but where is it going? It's alluding to having reads but not actually having a read.

Is this like an edgy meta from another site?

Anyway don't like this.


Everybody be pointing them fingers. Watch out you got three coming your way.


I always have them pointed my way. This game is not about survival Chez. do you know what that means?

You play very different. I end game win. You die win.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:32 GMT
#864
On June 11 2023 07:30 CopCake wrote:
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On June 10 2023 22:57 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 10 2023 22:47 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch

I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted.


Oooff

this is good actually.


On June 10 2023 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Catch up post:

(I have been following the thread on my phone but I am using the 2 hours free time I have now to post in more detail.)

On June 09 2023 21:48 CopCake wrote:
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On June 09 2023 21:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway like I said before the role PMS were posted going to be posting less this game, look forward to some clarity on that super early rayn town read by copcake that forms the lynchpin of basically every post she has made subsequently.

Goodnight.


Dude, do you even know how much I post per game?

This is nothing lol


On June 09 2023 21:49 CopCake wrote:
Tell me darth, how much do I post per game to know what is too little or too much? :D


These posts make me think the cop cake stuff could just be a comprehension issue. I was clearly talking about myself posting less.

It does make me concerned that someone is calling someone out without reading/understanding? their filter cause I had talked about this on the front page as well.

On June 09 2023 21:51 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey DP can we get clarification on your use of the term "good faith" so we're all on the same page because I've seen it used multiple ways and seen a lot of people get confused by its different uses.

Do you just mean honest?

@copcake
Re: a lie
This is verifiable. Which questions do you not think were answered in the thread?

I fucking like this guy!

Ya this cements how I was reading him to be honest.


This post is scummy to me, but I think LS has posted so much more this game than last, MZ states later that this could be a reaction to his failings as scum in the prior game, and that could be true, but do people adjust so fast? can LS adjust that fast? I'm not sure, following the thread I feel better about LS than last game at this point I guess?

I think he might just post in a way that is traditionally scummy. the real thing to look for is engagement levels, and they seem to be higher, but I also don't see him analysing things or scum hunting. Is LS able to do those things as town?

On June 09 2023 21:51 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW I don't care at all for any argument based on post-count, I'd ignore if for now if DP doesn't expand upon it.


Find it weird that TTT did not read the post properly either.


On June 09 2023 21:51 CopCake wrote:
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On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


So, how it is operating in good faith?, not questioning you perhaps?


Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

So my only assumption is that either:

1.) you have not read or understood the thread

or

2.) You have read and understood and are not operating in good faith

And BTW it has been hours and you have repeatedly ignored the question I have asked about why you think Rayn was town so early in the game, particularly when rayn said in the OBS thread from last game you always think he is scummy.



No by the time, you didn't answer my slam question which I needed, so you are just fabricating a scenario here.

I invite EVERYONE to read my filter.


Yep, either willful ignorance or straight up ignorant (see my big post on the matter)

On June 09 2023 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:28 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:14 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:35 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

Because he refused to answer you and questioned you why are you asking, I also think he is treating the "DP vs CC" really neutral


Almost 40 min ago

you really think that makes me town?
What would i do if i was mafia?


Trying to get me emotional and angry

have i done that before or where do you get that idea?


Yes, you have.


He did get emotional and angry, Marv even pointed this out in the thread so how does this make any sense.


getting emotional and angry is different than getting someone else emotional and angry.
and i didn't even get e/a. Now i am starting to for this shit.


Oh ok I misread never mind

wtf? how can you misread "getting someone angry" into "getting angry"?
Do you think i was getting angry or are you just sheeping marv's shit?


How you ask? Its midnight, I'm phone posting in bed and I was drunk.

I wasn't sheeping marvs shit, I was saying, if Marv thought that, it would be reasonable for others to also think this, but yeah just misread it. Lol.

On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.


On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.-


These two posts are absolutely not aligned, first is 'look i am participating I get whats happening' second is "yeah so confusing."

Actually LS is sheeping rayn hard

On June 09 2023 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
that being said the thing between DP and Cake is so convoluted i can't comprehend even when reading their filters... Make it easier to understand if you think one is mafia pls.



Then

On June 09 2023 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
This Copcake vs Darth stuff is making my head spin -.-


Like rayn is clearly trying to get somewhere in the mess, LS is just trying to be part of it without actually adding things?

On June 09 2023 22:48 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 09 2023 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2023 22:39 CopCake wrote:
#186 I re-asked you to answer me the slam question, which I assume rayn believed you answered. (the rayn-lunch-push)

But you actually answered slam in #187.

So why did you answer that before?

I do believe #186 goes before #187.

I just checked this more into detail and yep he finally answered your question in #187 regarding his read on Slam.

I think it is some other questions DP is saying Cake is asking whihc he had answered already.

That has to be the only explanation otherwise this just shitting up the thread for very little reason. Again this is making my head spin -.-


More rayn sheep. Pretty gross.


This post by Vivax is WILD!


On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Had a nice nap after almost being choked to death in my sleep tonight.

On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it. His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake.

I‘d also add that the way rayn followed into DPs footsteps in regards to Cake felt forced and hedgy.

Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on.

With that in mind and them not giving off the same energy as last game where at least rayn seemed like an easy townlean, Cake gets my axe for wagonomical reasons til I get to decide if rayn isn‘t a better lynch for the way he got smacked into submission by DP.

##Vote DarthPunk

Something about Ttts entrance also rubbed me the wrong way as it felt like they were evaluating the dp-cop interaction from the sidelines as an opener that suggested they wanted to play it safe.



On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
On a partial reread, I could do a DP lynch. Maybe even a rayn one. DP basically takes LS post at face value and instatowns it while it‘s far from apparent how it makes him town and that doesn‘t change when I point out he‘s copied it.


This partis just straight up untrue. I never town read LS on face value, I call that post out for feeling crafted, and guess what, Copypasta. It was.


On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
His questions to rayn at times seem fabricated and you can observe how he nudges rayn into interacting with him for the purpose of manipulating him into voting Cake.


What questions? the one I did at the start of the game to get shit going? no idea what this means TBH

On June 10 2023 02:25 Vivax wrote:
Overall I don‘t really see what they saw aside from Cake using lunch as an excuse which to me seems like a silly reason to base the entire read on.


I never mentioned her lunch. the thing we both saw was a narrative of suspicions cast at me which relied on a super early town read of rayn that didn;t make sense based on the stated meta of her scum reading rayn.

And then she refused to elaborate on this town read.

Yeah shit post Vivax TBH.
+ Show Spoiler +


On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


Now LS sheeps vivax's take of the cupcake /Dp battle feeling forced. But its cast as his own idea?

He knows someone else feels that way, vivax just posted that exact sentiment.

Bad, bad, bad.

On June 10 2023 04:17 Hapahauli wrote:
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On June 10 2023 04:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 03:15 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 10 2023 03:09 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:36 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:35 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:19 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 10 2023 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance?


I’m just about caught up, but nothing I’ve read is inspiring to me one way or the other beyond a very strong town read on Slam.

I also have this overwhelming desire to tunnel marv for nostalgia’s sake, but that’s about it.


Weak tbh, I had the same urge with you and there‘s a bunch of info around already.
You used to be more opinionated.


Once upon a time I had a full head of hair and now it is gone.


Relatable. Mine goes grey instead.


Re: opinions, there are a lot of games that I’ll have strong opinions, but this thread is difficult for me. There is “information” but a lot of it to me is bad. It’s basically DP shitting up the thread by forcing a case on CopCake, because he can’t help himself.

But that doesn’t give me a lot to go on.

Frankly, I’m more skeptical/suspicious of players that have developed strong opinions more than anything else. MZ’s post looks quite bad to me in that respect. I’d think yours is bad too, but I also think you’re of the same mentality as DP.

Regarding the bolded do you think this is alignment indicative for Darth?


I don’t think forcing a case is alignment indicative in an early game context.

Stuff like him refusing to read Chez’s wall of text and then reading said wall anyway tells me he was just bored early game and doing random shit.



Wrong, its actually pro town (not that the case on CC is particularly forced IMO) I feel fairly comfortable taking heat from people and provoking activity at the cost of some mild defending.

I definitely have been the driver of a lot of activity and forcing people to take positions early in day one which is certainly pro town.

You're right in regard to me though, I could probably still do this as mafia.

On June 10 2023 05:30 Vivax wrote:
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On June 09 2023 14:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Why do you have a strong opinion of LS alignment slam?

Statistics, and difference of opener.

Why you got all questions and no reads, m8? I asked all the questions last game iirc it ain't so townie


You don't think I have talked about peoples alignment? Even though you quoted my post stating lynching LS at the time was a good call?

Don't you think that qualifies as a read at this point in the game?

His opener doesn't seem that different to me. Still seems anxious and crafted.


Yes it is anxious and crafted. It‘s not from this world or era. It‘s pasta, copy..pasta.

Do you think that‘s not revenant, DP ? Do you really think that ?


Yep, that is why I scum read him for it immediately. lol.

On June 10 2023 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whoever said vivax is mafia is probably mafia.

that's my best read atm


Bad.

On June 10 2023 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whoever said vivax is mafia is probably mafia.

that's my best read atm


Initially I thought hapa didn't do enough to establish himself as town when he entered the game, particularly if he prides himself as being easy to read (and from memory this was very true when he was town 7 years ago)

But the second read through he seems better to me, just feels very relaxed.


On June 10 2023 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 10 2023 05:41 CopCake wrote:
Explain me the chezinu thing

Is it only because he voted vivax?

Chezinu is a good hunter of power roles as mafia, and has a "blue/red sickness" as town, which means people tend to play more cautiously when they are a power role rather than vanilla, and Chezinu recognizes that (and thinks it's mafia because mafia also plays more carefully).

Vivax is not blue, never fucking ever in this game, so Chezinu has to be mafia because he i voting for Vivax and Vivax doesn't even look scummy at all.


The problem with this is that I don't think he read his role PM.


On June 10 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think lynching LS is the way here though


Agree at this point in my read through.

On June 10 2023 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ok if I have to choose out of Darth and CopCake who is mafia more likely Darth? CopCake didn't lie about her stuff towards him and Darth really made something out of nothing for no reason?


Bad.

On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose?


Exactly.

On June 10 2023 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 10 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you have to choose?

1 of them is mafia the other is town. It felt to forced from one side (IE how I caught a mafia player in the past and was correct on who). This is usually what happens when 1 person is town the other is mafia.


Where the fuck did this come from?

On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good.


Is this only for activity levels? YOu also thought he was town last game FWIW.

And were very wrong.

On June 10 2023 06:22 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 10 2023 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
meh.. does anyone else think LS is mafia?

Darth does but he's not here.


And it's only gotten worse as I read through I am afraid.

On June 10 2023 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good.

i am going to agree, even if i dont want to.


WTF?! Why the backflip.



On June 10 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

From both of them? No.

It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why.

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On June 10 2023 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:05 CopCake wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?


Do you think it was w vs w or a town vs wolf?

If the last, who was the most town?

closer to Mafia vs Town type of deal (Or Wolf vs Town since you know Werewolf better i think?) In that case I have no idea at the moment to be honest.

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On June 10 2023 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2023 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I do want people to chime on something I posted earlier:
On June 10 2023 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the Darth vs Copcake stuff felt forced?

From both of them? No.

It felt like it from one side at least but I having a hard time figuring out who and why.

.................... the what?

At least how I read that entire conversation between the two of them it felt forced from one side IE one of them is mafia type of deal with how that entire sequence felt.

I dont think iam gonna get around of this any more.
"I think one is scum but i cant specify which just one is or for what reasons!!"

##unvote Chezinu
##vote LightningStrike


sorry vivax i think this is it.


Nevermind.

On June 10 2023 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm idk i think i let Hapa off too easy, it as kinda bad after all what he posted..


Bad does not equal scum. Otherwise Vivax is 1000% mafia in this spot.

On June 10 2023 09:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
I finished work right now... and wow much to read. I was just fast reading and have to read it again more accurately after some sleep, but what I got so far is
Vivax is posting a lot of bullshit nonsense
MZ writes bad as last game
LS seems suspect for me
Rayn seems always suspect for me so I can't make a opinion on him.
TTT Strong Townread
Marv is okey for now
Chez is Chez. I still think he is not human. His account is a first AI try for scum maybe.
And I have to Filter everyone I didn't mention here.


I like DMB this game, not that I agree with all her reads, just reminds me of the end of last game a bit, like she is reading and comprehending what is actually happening. Not pretending to. Thats like 75th percentile play at this juncture.

On June 10 2023 12:26 LightningStrike wrote:
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On June 10 2023 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
welp, posted without really previewing but LS never came back to that question about Chez which just reinforces my impression that he was casting random suspicions rather than scum hunting.

I was scum hunting by asking questions about people trying to come up with my own conclusions? I did come up with my own conclusions and was some of posting them.


Actually you were sheeping strong players. HARD.

This is just so not true.

On June 10 2023 16:17 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yes you missed something. I'm red on CC since my conversations with Rayn regarding her. If Rayn had responded differently, I would have tunneled her. But Rayn is giving her the benefit of the doubt, which leaves me thinking she's red but I was willing to give her room to breathe.

Specifically, her thinking Rayn is green and basing her perspective of the game on that from moment one is super bad, much worse than all this other nonsense she's embroiled in.


This is the big reason to scum read cop cake, she was paranoid as fuck in the obs thread, and it makes no sense for her to say, I was wrong last game and now I think you are town.

I also think the way I enter games tends to draw out interest from scum trying to start a wagon on me, it's a great way of getting reads IMO.



Then how should I read this ? Didn't her lunch make you go Oooff when rayn pointed it out? Do you skip lunches, Darth Punk ? Do you discriminate against Mexican cuisine is that what you want to say?

If you are town I better see you gulp down two sushi burritos in a row or else.


The oof was the fact that she was asking for information which was answered in the post quoted.

Which meant a lot more to me in that moment than subsequently because I was not considering the slam thing.


So why are you saying I am mafia? Because I should be paranoid of rayn? I should call him mafia all the time? Because in ONE single obs discord chat you came to that conslusion and make it an absolute truth?

When rayn quoted that and you “ooooffffed” me it felt very opportunistic, very very and even worse after i explained that you didnt answer the slam thing. It felt like if you were a wolf from those old vintage disney cartoons wolves that got happy because he saw fresh meat.



Perhaps we should kill DP and then rayn to find out. Muhahaha!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:35 GMT
#873
What will we do if we don't lynch a blue?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:36 GMT
#875
On June 11 2023 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:33 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh my god, DMB's first few pages in Endures #1 is... something.


Ignore that IMO, read after the Vivax flip and towards the endgame.

Yeah read D2 another batch of insane shit.

Lol!

The end is nigh! We need drama and panic!!!

Who we lynching!?!?!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:37 GMT
#877
On June 09 2023 14:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Plz control your shit posting

Helps!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:37 GMT
#880
On June 11 2023 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:36 Chezinu wrote:

Who we lynching!?!?!

Idk yet but i am not voting DP or Cake and it's gonna be mistake to vote for either one.

DMB?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:39 GMT
#888
On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote: Copcake

##Vote: Vayoletta


I think this is a start actually.

I didn't mean AFK town, I said AFK Mafia!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:41 GMT
#891
On June 11 2023 07:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:39 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote: Copcake

##Vote: Vayoletta


I think this is a start actually.

I didn't mean AFK town, I said AFK Mafia!


Who is that Chez?


Don't you want to find out if Vay I'd AI or not?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:42 GMT
#892
On June 11 2023 07:41 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 07:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:39 Chezinu wrote:
On June 11 2023 07:38 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote: Copcake

##Vote: Vayoletta


I think this is a start actually.

I didn't mean AFK town, I said AFK Mafia!


Who is that Chez?


Don't you want to find out if Vay I'd AI or not?

Also, Vay said that they were going to be AFK before hand.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:43 GMT
#896
Lynching stranger my seem easier on the heart strings, but sometimes lynching stranger is danger.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:46 GMT
#900
On June 11 2023 07:42 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 04:09 Vivax wrote:
On June 11 2023 03:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 11 2023 03:33 Vivax wrote:
Probably town:

- Hapa (attitude mostly, like a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh)
- Marv (decent followup to bugs bunny intro, aligns with Hapa in some aspects)
- Rayn (I don't think he'd scumread Chez for his vote on me as mafia and would rather go along with it comes to mind as a reason)
- LS (Christmas tree salience recycled first post + I kind of agree with Slam on his initial analysis at this point.I think he'd have folded and fell over by now as scum)
- Vayo (weird gut reason, seems familiar idk how)
- Cop (tonally seems like annoyed town to me also #hashtag has me pocketed so congratz if scum)

Not sure, could murder:

Chezinu, Slam, DMB, MZ

Want to murder:

DP, TTT

Why me?


Maybe I want to motivate you a little. I don‘t know how you play scum but I know you play differently and more conscientiously and it sticks out to me that it could be a mafia sign, while it‘s an improvement in any case.

Us voting for the same person definitely feels like one but do you think there‘s something that should make you slamdunk town?


Maybe I want to motivate you a little. I don‘t know how you play scum but I know you play differently and more conscientiously and it sticks out to me that it could be a mafia sign, while it‘s an improvement in any case.

Us voting for the same person definitely feels like one but do you think there‘s something that should make you slamdunk tow
Last game was my first game. I just read the rules from Grack nothing else. In the game I started to read old other games. I got on wikimafia, where all is more specific explained. I got experience also if it was just one game. I think it's normal to improve after playing especially if I played first time to second time. After 5-10 times there will be not as much change as know. Think of you in the game when you started or any other game. Sorry if you see experience as scum you should drink less beer on my bar.
Second I didn't write in English since years, just talk. Made it harder as well. Now it is less thinking, as before. Still have to improve my english.
Voting for Dp was just my feeling for now. It's easier to read scum play after view days. I am still not sure about my vote and I will change it maybe and as you should now they game started at an day where I worked ofer 13 hours sleep 10 hours and got back to work. I have more time tomorrow and days after but especially you should know that I didn't have time to play as in the last game. Last game I filtered everybody for many times and was on the game for almost 5 hours+ on the day/night. You now my shift and sleep and cuddle time with you. I was 2 hours here since the beginning because I don't had much time and energy. You are studying and have all day free expect of washing clothes or cook or learn but still more time then me.

Lol at cuddle time
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 10 2023 22:52 GMT
#909
On June 11 2023 04:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:16 Chezinu wrote:
The morning arrived, casting a soft glow upon the world as I stepped outside, my heart pounding with anticipation. Today was the day I would confront my fears head-on, the day I would open the letter waiting patiently in my mailbox and lower the red flag that had taunted me for so long.

Approaching the mailbox, I took a deep breath, mustering every ounce of courage within me. With trembling hands, I unlatched the lid, revealing the solitary envelope resting inside. It was as if the letter held a hidden power, a secret that could change everything.

Gingerly, I withdrew the envelope from its enclosure, feeling the weight of its contents in my grasp. The paper felt delicate, as if it held a multitude of untold stories within its fibers. The Master's rules echoed in my mind once more, reminding me not to reveal anything personal about the sender.

I carefully slit the envelope open, revealing the neatly folded letter contained within. Unfolding it, I held my breath, unsure of what I would find. The words that met my eyes were unexpected, a departure from the sterile nature of my usual deliveries.

"Dear Courier, I know the burden you carry. The fear, the isolation. But remember, there is strength in unity, even in the face of an oppressive regime. Do not let the Master's control extinguish your spirit. Take solace in the small acts of rebellion, for they hold the power to ignite change. Lower the red flag today, reclaim your freedom. Together, we can defy the chains that bind us."

As I read those words, a surge of hope coursed through my veins. It was as if the sender had understood my turmoil, my yearning for connection and liberation. Their message was a call to action, a rallying cry that resonated deep within me.

Determined, I closed the letter and slipped it back into the envelope. The weight of the Master's gaze and the consequences of my actions paled in comparison to the flicker of rebellion that had ignited within me. Today, I would defy the Master's control, even if only in a small, symbolic act.

With renewed purpose, I reached up and gently lowered the red flag, its descent a defiance against the oppressive grip of the Master. The symbolic act sent a surge of exhilaration through me, a sense of liberation that I hadn't felt in so long.

The raised red flag had represented fear and subservience, but now, as it stood lowered, it became a beacon of hope, a symbol of resilience and the possibility of change. I had taken a step towards reclaiming my identity, towards forging a path of my own in the face of an oppressive regime.

As I closed the mailbox, a newfound sense of empowerment filled me. The journey ahead would not be easy, but I had found allies, kindred spirits in the shadows. Together, we would continue to resist, to sow the seeds of rebellion, and to fight for a future where personal connections and individuality were celebrated.

With each step I took on my mail courier route that day, I carried with me the words of the sender. They fueled my determination, reminding me that I was not alone in my struggles. I would continue to deliver the unsealed letters, but now, I would also carry within me the invisible threads that connected us, the whispers of unity and defiance against the Master's oppressive rule.


Like, what should I drink alongside my latte for this to have a meaning? What spice am I missing?


Cinnamon?
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