Chezinu streak(s) Mafia - Page 7

On September 07 2022 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
Copcake and rels same.

Do with that information as you see fit. Gg.

On September 07 2022 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch the unCCd parity that wasn't ever up for a wagon tomorrow and is likely to die tonight? Have you thought that one through? :D

On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D

If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

On September 07 2022 23:44 Holyflare wrote:


I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked.

Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale.

There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive.

On September 07 2022 23:46 Holyflare wrote:


The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town.

What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off

I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.

On September 07 2022 23:38 CopCake wrote:
Then when he is alive "Oh no I got blocked (like he said before) and mafia kept me alive for a misslynch", yet he says "he has results"

On September 07 2022 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Why would I go straight after any of you when I didn't know any of your alignments???



Reading between the lines is enough.

On September 08 2022 00:00 Holyflare wrote:



I did vote for Rels. I called him mafia and voted him. As mafia, you see this information and your statement isn't "Wow, maybe I'm an unaware miller!" or "I don't believe you" it's simply that I didn't even want to vote for Rels? Why does this make sense from a townie perspective of someone who is just being outed as red with no further explanation?




I say that I'm roleblocked. Only mafia know whether that is true or not. As a townie there's no reason not to believe I was roleblocked. I wasn't up for contention of being a wagon, I wasn't under the spotlight, there wasn't really any threat in the game to do this. Being roleblocked was actually clearing for CopCake and should make a hell of a lot more sense as town who is being wrongly accused of being mafia.

You know why this reaction is the way it is? Because mafia didn't actually roleblock me, Cop knows that and knows I'm town. The only other explanation that makes sense for me to lie in this scenario is the exact one she presents "I'm a cop you idiot vibes", where I'm a townie faking that I'm cop.



She still believes I'm simply mafia that did a 0-1% beneficial play because she's simply in a world where she has to view my play as mafia indicative instead of reevaluating it.



There is no out here for me to simply be town. She has shut down every avenue and not evaluated this with a head that's looking to solve. It's simply all just mafia scenarios and narratives because it's what she has to do.

On September 08 2022 00:51 Holyflare wrote:


If they vig you and you're an unaware miller than I confirm myself as town. Slim chance that scenario plays out anyway.

Also why I retracted to a rb into announcing it finally at the end of night.

On September 08 2022 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gl guys i was blue

On September 08 2022 03:13 Alakaslam wrote:
I'm gonna suspect Mafia wants to No Kill (otherwise congrats wp doc) which makes me want to be even more pro-town and no lynch until we get even more info.

On September 08 2022 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I guess vet could also be a possibility.

On September 08 2022 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
I think Cop's preference for voting Rels over MZ at most times in the game when MZ was her preferred wagon and I can't really remember Cop singling out why Rels over most people is kinda telling.

I also think she semi slipped d1 in the Rels/me fight parroting Rels' argument of "as mafia Rels would never go aggro against me knowing I'd fight back". It says to me that she didn't think of:

1) Worlds where Rels and I were mafia together (and even now she's left that out of her pushes on me)

2) Worlds where I'm mafia and Rels was town (because TMI)

3) Worlds where Rels and I were both town.

She simply picked the correct explanation that I was town and defended Rels with his own bs argument.

On September 08 2022 03:51 Mattchew wrote:

if we cant win this game with 3 confirmed town against mz/cc/slam/chez..........