EPTLet me ask you something, was rels simply posting alot of words enough for you to remove your vote, or was it something that he actually said that suggests to you he isn't mafia?
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On August 31 2022 22:21 deconduo wrote: Just posting was enough - as I said in the original vote it was for 'Posting the bare minimum to not get modkilled' ok thanks. This reads to me like a very shallow way to assign your vote. I was hoping you had some reasoning beyond that for removing your vote tbh. I thought rels' posting last night was hella scummy, as i posted earlier and DI also posted about (and did a better job of it than i did tbh). | ||
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On August 31 2022 22:21 deconduo wrote: Speaking of which - what has Vivax done to convince you to unvote him? Already answered. | ||
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On August 31 2022 21:38 Jockmcplop wrote: Also koshi has made a fairly convincing case for letting vivax live for now. I am also giving rels some credit for that too, hence the vote for decon. | ||
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On August 31 2022 22:29 deconduo wrote: This case? What makes Vivax so easy to catch? Mostly koshi's confidence that he can do so (I currently have koshi as a pretty strong townread), but also vivax can get stressed out as mafia and start posting very unpredictably. This is with the caveat that in more recent games as mafia vivax has been pretty good (at least before i took a hiatus from playing). Rels also said something like 'vivax hasn't started playing yet' which is a fair-ish point. Anyway my vote on vivax was never really based on a case, more that i expected him to be tunnelling on someone by the time i put my vote on him. I feel my case on you is much, much stronger. | ||
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On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote: I could change my vote for rels. But I want to know what people think of my MZ case? I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand. I also wonder why chezinu voted me. And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J. The only part of your case against MZ that really appealed to me was that maybe he's pocketing koshi. He both addresses koshi directly, in a collaborative way, and repeats some of koshi's points, without explicitly townreading him. However, he does explicitly say that he agrees with koshi, and goes on to repeat koshi's points later on, which is consistent at least. So this point is ambiguous, but i'm happy to entertain the possibility. I like his posting about decon's start. He's aggressive and committed to his early reads in a way that says to me he's town, and he is dead right about decon. If i'm honest MZ's first few posts have scumreads without a great deal of deep thought process, but it was early in the game. He certainly got you on the defensive, where unfortunately you seem to have remained for much of the first day. I remain unconvinced by anything anyone has posted about MZ. If I'm totally honest much of this is based on meta from previous games where i felt his early posting was an easy target for a lynch, but he's always town in these cases. | ||
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On August 31 2022 23:23 Rels wrote: It advanced my read though! I didn't explicitely say it I guess, but I don't want to vote for you anymore. Your responses could make sense. Also regardless of alignment, it was nice that at least one person was there when I was available to play, less lonely. Well you started suspicious of me and ended on this: On August 31 2022 12:12 Rels wrote: I would like it actually but more to check you than rayn hahaha :p So that's why I assumed you hadn't progressed. Which reminds me i've looked at like 6-7 games and I can't find the one i was thinking of. Maybe i was misremembering. | ||
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On August 31 2022 23:30 Rels wrote: Jock I understand your points, but posts like these feel pretty genuine. It just, makes sense. Not hard to fake of course for one post, but every interaction dec has feel like that. This is very similar to what you said yesterday about decon and his early jokeposting. That you agreed with my points but that it felt natural. Honestly it doesn't really feel natural or genuine to me. But even if it did, the lack of town thought process is far more telling imo. | ||
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On August 31 2022 23:31 Rels wrote: I don't vote to vote dec. Who would you vote if not him? (and not me lol) The only other person who is ringing alarm bells for me is vivax. I think both you and dec are scum anyway, so if not him and not you is kind of a moot point! | ||
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On August 31 2022 23:33 Rels wrote: it was more tongue in cheek than anything else Oh no I shouldn't use that word haha :p I thought we'd established that I can't detect that stuff very well! | ||
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On August 31 2022 23:34 Rels wrote: lowkey wants to start a HF wagon You do? Why? | ||
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Rels I'm sorry to leave you alone in the thread again but i have to go nap i had like 3 hours sleep last night and then a long hospital treatment this morning and its hitting me now. I'll be back in an hour or so. | ||
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Still, I can kill rels. ##Unvote: deconduo ##Vote rels | ||
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You seemed reasonably determined about him yesterday. | ||
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On September 01 2022 02:07 Alakaslam wrote: Wow so non committal after your strong reaction to DI The whole time i said i think rels and decon are mafia together. There's no-one around, so leaving my vote on decon is useless when rels and MZ are close. I was hoping a few people would be around for EoD, but the ones that are haven't even commented on Decon. | ||
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On September 01 2022 02:19 Rels wrote: creating a second wagon so we have only wrong choices. Maybe to divert from Vivax yeah? There was a lot of talk about Vivax but no vote at the end Thing is, I'm not sure because it was kinda shut down by Koshi and I, and I don't think Koshi is scum So who are responsible for creating the second wagon in your eyes? | ||
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On September 01 2022 02:27 Alakaslam wrote: I can get behind Vivax as well. Let's do it Why not decon? No-one seems to be able to answer me about it. Its super frustrating like I'm just being ignored. I coudl take or leave a vivax vote, but I'm far more inclined to vote rels, and even more so decon. Hang on: On August 31 2022 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote: More decon There's zero attempt to progress his reads throughout the day. He's doing alot of fighting against rayn's posts about him, but it hasn't seemed to arouse any suspicion that rayn might be mafia, even though he claims rayn's entire case on him was meta from 8 years ago. Given that rayn is a good town player, that would at least make me suspicious if i was decon. But all I get from his filter is that he's interested in both MZ and holyflare without actually attempting to go any further than that. ##Unvote: Vivax ##Vote: Deconduo For someone who has posted a fair amount, there's a startling lack of actual content. Read his filter. Tell me I'm wrong. | ||
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At least rels was ready to make some townreads. COME ON GUYS someone at least counter the points I've made or tell me why Vivax is a better vote | ||
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##unvote rels ##vote deconduo | ||
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