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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 31 2022 17:45 GMT
#830
##Unvote
Vote: Deconduo


This will be fun
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
August 31 2022 17:57 GMT
#868
On September 01 2022 02:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 02:54 Koshi wrote:
Ok. 6 more mins but on page 37. Quick update?

Rels is not mafia, MZ is not mafia, Deconduo is probably not mafia, I will bet Mattchew is


Mattchew was the first to verbally dislike me. Why would we be together? Why are you not just pushing me?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 01 2022 01:01 GMT
#936
On August 31 2022 00:36 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 00:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 30 2022 12:43 Chezinu wrote:
It looks like Grackaroni has vanished. Can anyone see the cruiseship? It appears the canoe is here... *eyes open outward* His body mustn't be far. Smells like the stinch left by fecal in the cave.


owie, who's gonna host now

Well, want an extended tour of the island? I've been here for quite some time.


I'd like a tour.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 01 2022 01:10 GMT
#937
After filter reads towns are

Koshi, Dandel Ion, Jockmcplop, Meap_Ziphh, Copcake, raynpelikoneet, and Alakaslam.

Rels, Vivax

I'm around, going to keep reading.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 01 2022 01:51 GMT
#939
On September 01 2022 10:37 Chezinu wrote:

Ah finally. I've been waiting for someone. Come along then!


I'd like to see the land of the Brown.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 01 2022 02:04 GMT
#941
On September 01 2022 11:01 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote:
On September 01 2022 10:37 Chezinu wrote:

Ah finally. I've been waiting for someone. Come along then!


I'd like to see the land of the Brown.

It is within you. Be one between the dimensions. Are you here or there?


Yes.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 01 2022 02:16 GMT
#944
Have you been in the cave? Makes me think of Feast of the Fecal. I liked his music.

Like mine but not

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 01 2022 02:50 GMT
#946
The cave is dark to me. I only have the memories of smell. Nothing else.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 01 2022 04:14 GMT
#947
On September 01 2022 00:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 00:01 Holyflare wrote:
I am just not reading the thread properly and coasting by.

Why does that make me an alignment?

This is why I hate D1. If stuff like this can't be used then what can? That makes no sense.

So. You're pushing back way harder than I'm pushing. I'm forcing myself to share ideas, stop being so butthurt about it. It's not strong, OK. But it's something like, you were self conscious enough to see that rayn had mentioned to same point? This is why I thought that post was weird in the first place. So, self conscious enough to deflect a potential criticism, but not enough to understand what was being said? Showing a tendency towards yourself more than towards others? And that's a scum trait? Something like that.

You're making me type a lot of words so that might appear to be like, a strong argument. It's not so. But I feel like it's might be a small thing.


Rels isn't pushing HF very hard. if this is his strongest town tell it's pretty weak I think.

On September 01 2022 00:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 23:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 31 2022 23:34 Rels wrote:
lowkey wants to start a HF wagon

On August 31 2022 23:37 Rels wrote:
Slam HF would make sense
HF is making posts just good enough to be townread, not enough for it to be weird to not be NKd
Makes a good case on his teammate, don't really push it. Let the wagons be on other person
When I started to be around I wanted to talk about Slam, then didn't comment when I talked about Slam? I might be wrong about the timing though let's see


This is such a bs transition too. You think my points have merit, you think Slam is kinda scummy. I think you're even voting Slam at this point(?) but you somehow transition to "lowkey" wanting to vote me as an associative before you've even wagoned the person you actually think I'm partnered with and discovering if that's a legit concern???

I am voting Slam yeah. To be clear, I don't want to vote you over him. But it might make sense? Why are you not pushing him over Vivax?


Here it looks like he tried to summon him to talk and get him to vote Slam. If HF voted Slam then others probably would have followed. Slam being low hanging fruit.

On September 01 2022 00:28 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
The problem I have with what you are doing is that you are just performatively scum hunting. Your thoughts displayed are erratic and not well thought out because you would rather jump on something rather than trying to solve the situation instead.

How does that make me scum though? I'm pretty fucking logical and not erratic as scum. I never get lynched early for example, and win most of the time. It only happens as town that I get MLd early.
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
You did this with this post and you did it with the "not wanting to talk about Slam" post. Back to back.

Why even float that you'd want to vote me if you didn't actually want to do that and it's "not that strong really"???

To make you react.


Rels is a pretty smart dude. This is easily doable for him.

At first reads I didn't see anything that interested me. Nothing stood out other than trying to generate activity to not look too inactive. What I did notice later is he seems to keep going back and forth on some reads. Like Slam, he will post how he's towny or unable to read him. Then really only can offer Slam up for lynch. He really pushes for a Slam lynch. Dandel Ion is right though, there isn't any difference between Slam, Vivax, and what he says Dandel Ion is doing. So it's weird that it's all about Slam.

Reading Slam's EOD behavior makes me townread him fairly solid. So, then that does frame Rels in a much more sinister light.

Now I'm going to find all the times he says something about Vivax. There's a couple just talking about the Vivax trap but he doesn't indicate town/mafia. This is his first "read" on Vivax:

On August 31 2022 10:29 Rels wrote:
I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel.

On August 31 2022 11:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 11:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rels why is vivax a good vig target in your opinion, but apparently a bad lynch target as you won't vote for him?

I think his flip will be random given what he has posted. He just hasn't started playing. I also think scum!Vivax is pretty easy to catch when given time, town!Vivax is pretty tryhard when he gets starting. In a way scum!Vivax is not able to replicate in my recollection, or at least not during multiple days.

To be clear, I'll vote for him over a lot of other people if I had to vote right now. But we still have time before deadline, and I would prefer Slam.


On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote:
Let's see who's left.

I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more.

Chez lol. I've never been able to read him.


Vivax has a 4 page filter. I have 2. Mattchew has 1. I just don't think you can really look at Vivax's filter and mine and go Tube tried more. Yeah, I had reads in there but I didn't really explain anything. So he's said that Vivax has potential when he's town, and there are 3 others with less filter but arguably equal(ish) content and he wants to vig / soft push Vivax? I mean he can't really push me cause protection from Rayn and Koshi. He can't go against them.

On September 01 2022 00:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 23:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 31 2022 23:34 Rels wrote:
lowkey wants to start a HF wagon

On August 31 2022 23:37 Rels wrote:
Slam HF would make sense
HF is making posts just good enough to be townread, not enough for it to be weird to not be NKd
Makes a good case on his teammate, don't really push it. Let the wagons be on other person
When I started to be around I wanted to talk about Slam, then didn't comment when I talked about Slam? I might be wrong about the timing though let's see


This is such a bs transition too. You think my points have merit, you think Slam is kinda scummy. I think you're even voting Slam at this point(?) but you somehow transition to "lowkey" wanting to vote me as an associative before you've even wagoned the person you actually think I'm partnered with and discovering if that's a legit concern???

I am voting Slam yeah. To be clear, I don't want to vote you over him. But it might make sense? Why are you not pushing him over Vivax?


Why would HF push Vivax when he's voted MZ and only thread voted Rels? HF didn't talk about Vivax much. He had other obvious interests. and 30 minutes after this post HF cased me so Rels could have gone for that. So, why is Rels weirdly bringing up Vivax?

On September 01 2022 00:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2022 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
And what's Vivax got to do with anything?

Vivax as a potential lynch instead of Slam?


On September 01 2022 00:13 Rels wrote:
but apparently it's not a real wagon. For some reason I thought Vivax was the leading wagon


Did any townies think Vivax was a leading wagon? To me this looks like he's paranoid about his partner getting lynched. I'd also be worried if Koshi targetted "my" partner Vivax I'd have to try to save him. I think that's what happened here. No one would be sad about a Vivax lynch so the threat is there, but he gets excused as as D1 target due to potential. He says he helped "shut it down".

On September 01 2022 02:19 Rels wrote:
creating a second wagon so we have only wrong choices. Maybe to divert from Vivax yeah? There was a lot of talk about Vivax but no vote at the end
Thing is, I'm not sure because it was kinda shut down by Koshi and I, and I don't think Koshi is scum


Where did Rels shut down the Vivax lynch? I don't see any advocacy to not vote Vivax. He asked HF why not Slam over Vivax but that's about all the shutting down there was overtly.

On September 01 2022 02:32 Rels wrote:
I'll vote Vivax over me of course, but I would prefer Dandel


It's super weird how he treats Vivax over others that are essentially equal or worse. Like he doesn't have any meta read on me (I'm assuming since he hasn't mentioned anything) but if Vivax is so easy to read down the line, why say he's a good vigi shot and not one he just won't ever know like Chezinu or me or Mattchew?

Rels can't defend Vivax. So he has to push Slam. He doesn't really push Vivax but later when Vivax flips mafia then he can try to say "I totally pushed Vivax!" but he's not. He doesn't vote him, he doesn't ask for anyone to vote him.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 14:53 GMT
#1122
Still think Rels and Vivax are mafia. Vivax less so.

##Vote: Rels
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 15:06 GMT
#1125
On September 02 2022 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia

180ing on MZ

It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo

Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now.

Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax.

Vivax posts:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around.
Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax????


[QUOTE]On September 02 2022 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 02 2022 11:22 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 02 2022 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Right Rels also parroted Koshi's stupid point about keeping Vivax around until D3.[/QUOTE]
Don't think I've said that? It was more like, Vivax can't fake his town self that long, I think? But he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah.
Vivax, you need to start playing please.
##Vote Vivax[/QUOTE]
You definitely said that, maybe not exactly but it was at least heavily implied and only AFTER Koshi made this post (#481):
[QUOTE]On August 31 2022 07:28 Koshi wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 31 2022 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you think Vivax is town?
So you think deconduo is town?

If so, why? Vivax hasn't said anything worth anything whole game. Basically he has made posts but the only game contributing post is his vote on MZ. He has been talking about outside game stuff. If Vivax is mafia Vivax talks either nothing or he talks about some stupid shit like stock markets.

Here Vivax talks like he is talking about stock market.[/QUOTE]
Vivax makes weird posts and I cba to read or decipher it.
Vivax ezlynch on day 2/3 when he is obvious mafia due to complete activity drop off.[/QUOTE]

Then you say this (#543):
[QUOTE]On August 31 2022 10:29 Rels wrote:
I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel.[/QUOTE]

Rayn's town. He sees the same things I saw but just didn't go as far as I do. I mean yeah I made an associative read and they're bad but Rels and Vivax are both acting scummy so it's not really associative.

Even though he thinks I'm mafia, he's definitely town. Definitely.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 15:08 GMT
#1126
On September 02 2022 20:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
Because Rels is mafia


I'll vote for rels after you've voted for tube


Dand you can take that trade. Otherwise HF will never vote Rels. Never.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 15:12 GMT
#1128
On September 02 2022 22:43 Mattchew wrote:
Like these votes feel like they make no sense to ms


Why? Don't you scumread me? Should feel mindmeldy I think.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 15:15 GMT
#1129
On September 02 2022 23:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 23:53 Tubesock wrote:
Still think Rels and Vivax are mafia. Vivax less so.

##Vote: Rels


Patently bollocks take

Maybe you can frame the interaction we just had when I got back and actually played in a way that gives that some weight?


You have some moments.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 15:16 GMT
#1130
EBWOP:
On September 02 2022 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia

180ing on MZ

It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo

Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now.

Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax.

Vivax posts:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around.
Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax????


On September 02 2022 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 11:22 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Right Rels also parroted Koshi's stupid point about keeping Vivax around until D3.

Don't think I've said that? It was more like, Vivax can't fake his town self that long, I think? But he's not even trying to fake anything right now so, yeah.
Vivax, you need to start playing please.
##Vote Vivax

You definitely said that, maybe not exactly but it was at least heavily implied and only AFTER Koshi made this post (#481):
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 07:28 Koshi wrote:
On August 31 2022 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you think Vivax is town?
So you think deconduo is town?

If so, why? Vivax hasn't said anything worth anything whole game. Basically he has made posts but the only game contributing post is his vote on MZ. He has been talking about outside game stuff. If Vivax is mafia Vivax talks either nothing or he talks about some stupid shit like stock markets.

Here Vivax talks like he is talking about stock market.

Vivax makes weird posts and I cba to read or decipher it.
Vivax ezlynch on day 2/3 when he is obvious mafia due to complete activity drop off.


Then you say this (#543):
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 10:29 Rels wrote:
I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel.


Rayn's town. He sees the same things I saw but just didn't go as far as I do. I mean yeah I made an associative read and they're bad but Rels and Vivax are both acting scummy so it's not really associative.

Even though he thinks I'm mafia, he's definitely town. Definitely.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 19:39 GMT
#1143
On September 03 2022 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2022 04:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread.

I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer.

Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that?

Nah it was just a routine training flight but it requires 3 hours of planning, 3 hours of briefing, 4 hours of flying, 2 hours of debriefing, and then I went to sleep. Slept longer than anticipated but I don't work today so I'll actually have some time to comb through the game.


You flightcrew? I fly the L100
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 21:15 GMT
#1158
MZ makes a lot of really good points.

Rels has some towny posts.

Agreeing with someone for their D1 thoughts really doesn't indicate anything. Pretty much why I towned Dandel. And even being tunneled he could also look for the others which he's just not playing.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 21:16 GMT
#1159
ninja ##Unvote
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 21:38 GMT
#1161
On September 03 2022 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should probably try to explain why your vote ended up on where it did if you are town Tube.


Got caught in the shenanigans moment. And something about Rels made me 2nd guess myself.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
September 02 2022 21:57 GMT
#1163
I don't time to pull the quotes now but basically I was waffling on how scummy I htought him throwing out an accusation and then a post or so later "oh here it checks out ok, oopsies nevermind". It looked like trying to manufacture progression. But then I was waffling and thinking I've seen town people do that type of thing before.

And really Decon wasn't doing anything so I really didn't care who died between the 3. (MZ, Rels, or Decon)
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