On August 30 2022 12:43 Chezinu wrote: It looks like Grackaroni has vanished. Can anyone see the cruiseship? It appears the canoe is here... *eyes open outward* His body mustn't be far. Smells like the stinch left by fecal in the cave.
Leader, I follow
Dude I made it to page 14, was it solo?
M_Z at least my extensive filter is condensed to two pages of the thread for many hours now, does that help?
I bet it doesn't help.
I have no clue who is mafia. Maybe it is Rayn because he bitterly recalls an amazing scumgame of his (or because his reference to it has put the fear of casinos in me, something like that)
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote: Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.
People who are fun: Jock Dandel Slam Koshi Vivax CopCake Tube
Neutral: Rels Matt
People who are not fun: Rayn
People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game: MZ
Chezinu: Chezinu
this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet?
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
Looks like we're agreed on vivax, but have opposite reads on MZ and deconduo.
Tone reads is all you can realistically have on day 1. Where I struggle is with long chains of logic. They break my brain like proper.
On August 30 2022 23:42 Dandel Ion wrote: Slam showed up but spammed too little to be town i'm pretty sure i am now actively and indiscriminately lynching him
On August 30 2022 12:43 Chezinu wrote: It looks like Grackaroni has vanished. Can anyone see the cruiseship? It appears the canoe is here... *eyes open outward* His body mustn't be far. Smells like the stinch left by fecal in the cave.
owie, who's gonna host now
Well, want an extended tour of the island? I've been here for quite some time.
Intriguing, my inner workings sometimes require me to be unhappy and feel good about it I'm a curious fella tho
Do something yo
Like what? I'm voting mafia am I not Also eating, then visiting two friends, sometimes I accidentally manipulate realities or something
Even if MZ had a green PM, your eyes will tell you it was red alakablam
HF obviously remains 100% confirmed town. Since I'm sheeping and hard defending Deconduo he's town too. Dande makes me smile so town there as well. Koshi likes me. That gives me warm fuzzies.
Copcake, Jock, and MZ are overall neutral for me. They do towny things that can be mimicked, but I disagree on several things they say soooooo yeah.
Want to see Rayn go Rayn so waiting for that. Plus, he usually has the Tubesock decoder and can see my town beacon.
I like this Vivax. I usually disagree (not that he's said much about the game) with him but his town light is usually bright and disruptive.
Slam isn't appearing to be having fun. That makes me sad. I disagree with HF's read though. Slam always deprecates himself and is always "this is lynching me" type talk. Slam's a mystery to me, which is why I enjoy him so much.
I can easily vote anyone else I forgot about.
Whaaaaaaat?
I've been having a ball reading this shit, the mechanics here at Penske Montebello probably think I am crazy now
On August 31 2022 04:33 Mattchew wrote: i am almost done reading, will post thoughts soon
No almost when I am here. I am the long lost psycho brother to Koshi, and here our powers of spam are combined. And fear our cousin Rayn, he can make it rain posts if provoked.
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote: I lack both money and a mouth
Neo? Is that you?
are we ever truly anybody?
Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.
Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote. If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.
no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch
In what way?
It scares the sheep "On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game" (1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look
when ever have you cared about this?
always I was just very good at hiding my feelings
Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist.
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia.
On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote: Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent.
On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote:
I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him:
On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm town
Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?
Are you saying you are not town?
On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb
Are you talking of a past game or?
On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote: [quote]
Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post? Confused.
He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)
So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.
Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.
I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond. _____
I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.
deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote: Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.
What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?
Do you happen to know who were in that game? Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x I only remember you were very frustrated
Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.
Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"
On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.
On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote: [quote] this list is unironically revolting koshi in the fun category smh
your last list was better, you fell off
It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly. Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.
I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.
Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human. Do you have any reads yet?
I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.
I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.
You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.
I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.
I want more HF but overall Rels tho.
And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.
Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.
Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.
On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
Absolutely
With this caveat:
On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote: To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.
I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.
Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.
Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.
So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"
It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.
copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!
Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.
On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote: 100% confirmed town Holyflare
Leaning Town: Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)
Leaning Mafia: Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi) Koshi
Chezinu: Chezinu
Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
You know his list is just a joke, right?
And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.
Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.
Tube beats her to the punch here.
The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts: + Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote: Let me ax you somefink.
If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?
Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote: Let me get this right, HF.
There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?
Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.
On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong.
These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.
I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.
Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.
How can I have a REAL read of you if you don't answer my question? (Oh look more questions, I am totally mafia)
I think how you reacted to what I think it was an obvious joke was bad, I didn't like it. It was odd, therefore I needed ANSWERS.
Because just defining if you are mafia based on a bad bad post is not enough.
Is this hard to understand or am I not explaining myself?
(Look more questions, totally mafia)
On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote: But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.
I probably wrote that wrong.
On August 31 2022 03:53 CopCake wrote:
On August 31 2022 03:31 Koshi wrote: Hmmmmmmm I am a bit lost. Maybe I should vote Rels for the time being.
I like both the cases on MZ and CC.
But Rels is just disappointing. And not in the shoot him as vigi kind of dissapointing.
##vote: Rels
This is too contradictory I don’t even know what to make of it.
- This is not a question -
I hate this shit man, why does everything you write sound guilty. Have you played before? If so what games, I'm going to have to try and establish a meta read here.
I hated koshi’s post saying “I don’t care” and shut me up when I was trying to have a discussion.
And if you have read the thread it is obvs I have played before.
You told me to read old games of you. I don't care about meta. I did not shut down any discussion. Lies and slander
On August 31 2022 06:21 Holyflare wrote: I just get the feeling that MZ has called Cop mafia and now everything Cop does is conf biased as them being mafia. I'm pretty sure when he pointed out the "here are the fluff posts I was talking about" he included things after the post where he mentioned it.
I also still get the feeling it's a deep bus lol because his read on dec (while not really making much sense and actually is just a huge hedge) is a lot more nuanced and fluent comparatively.
Matt looks great, I agree that Tube's post is a big shrug. It's a lot of half hearted words that seem more convincing in tone than the words that are written on the page. The rayn read (Matt's read) is kind of a stretch IMO, at least the activity bit. Activity reads are mediocre and I don't think it's in any way indicative that Rayn's enthusiasm/participation has dropped because I think he'd be keen as mafia to contribute and appear active just as much as he would be as town.
Now that I know what Rayn actually meant with his post and he wasn't defending Koshi, it did trend slightly down and I think I agree with the rest of Matt's points (a lot of names thrown out etc).
Top read of the game from my perspective currently.
On August 31 2022 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: And i don't even know what Rels is but he can die because the only reason i am playing this game is because he asked me to and i said yes while working basically 2,5 jobs and then he is not even playing.
This is actually the best reason to vote someone in the game so far.
On August 31 2022 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Where are all the americans? Chezinu if you needed to take one of the players in this game with you on an island, who would it be? Would you climb to a coconut tree instead of them yes/no?
Dude I was at work technically still on the clock. Waiting for the driver to get here so I can get to the next unit.
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