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As for the night stuff, it went something like "I think Cop is mafia, I'll try and bait a reaction out of her". So I claimed parity cop with a check on her. Her reaction wasn't great and it was something like "You didn't even want to vote for rels" which i don't think made the slightest bit of sense.
In my head, I'm thinking "Hmm, I guess if it was accurate maybe her reaction would be a bit different. It's possible they tried to rb me when I was playing under the radar kinda and claimed VT on n1 or n2 (which is weird for me)" so I claimed rb to try and string it out even further.
Copcake reacted again calling it an "I'm a cop you idiot" kinda play but what I thought was really really bad was that she wanted to eliminate me for it when I wasn't CCd, the night hadn't ended and being a parity is just self resolving. I think as a townie she's overwhelmingly likely to just write it off and not care about it until there's further information but she kept hammering on about wanting to wagon me today and how it's obvious I'm just gonna claim rb again and be alive. There was no thought here about townie motivations for my play whatsoever.
I wrote about how she hadn't even factored in being an unaware miller or anything like that and it still stands. It's only today that she's internalised how I said she would have reacted and used that when MZ claimed parity with a check on cop
On September 08 2022 04:10 CopCake wrote:
This is so bullshit if I ended up to be the unaware miller
so let it be it
On September 07 2022 23:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2022 23:44 Holyflare wrote:On September 07 2022 23:41 CopCake wrote:On September 07 2022 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
You think we're in a game with no blues? :D
If I'm alive and just roleblocked then so be it. I don't like that your first instinct is to just blindly say I'm mafia for it though, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. Of course it makes sense because I am town, what do you want me to believe when you say that rels and me are "same" when it is not true? And I know there are blues, I am not an idiot. Are you trying to fish? I was trying to bait someone into saying they didn't believe my check because they knew I was actually roleblocked. Since I've said I was roleblocked your continued "He is mafia" stance is just sticking out as really stale. There's also potential unaware millers in this game but you didn't really weigh that up, you just went on a massive defensive. The last sentence is particularly why I think you've probably outed yourself as mafia. It's a perspective slip. I have no reason to lie about my check as town (eg, Vivax's reaction of semi-belief). If you are town, your first instinct should be to realise that I could actually have that check and that you might be an unaware miller. What other reason do I have to simply out myself on a night phase with that kind of information? There is none, simply no benefit as mafia to do it. Infinite benefit as town. What you actually did though, knowing that I was roleblocked, is to detract from that claim saying you don't believe I am a cop either because you're a godfather and wouldn't show as same, or because you roleblocked me. Who knows whether I'm still lying about being roleblocked and I actually did get a check off  I'm quite sure you did out yourself though.
A solid A+ post.
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On September 08 2022 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 06:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 08 2022 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 06:22 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is your case about the bait or something real HF? The case on cop about baiting mafia to out themselves? It was another bait but I think it worked successfully. Reached the conclusion Cake was mafia without even needing the check. I think HF is mafia. I don't think the night shit makes any sense, even as VT. Also, he knows he has been blocked by Mattchew as per his words. So I'm about to fly and I haven't been able to read the thread thoroughly but has mattchew clarified whether he is a Jail Keeper or a doctor? Because if he's a jail keeper, this actually makes a decent amount of sense. I dont know but Mattchew already said this: Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 03:57 Mattchew wrote:On September 08 2022 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mattchew do you know if there is a mafia roleblocker or not? Don't say anything else. i believe holy was roleblocked which made me believe that HF was jailed at some point.
IF YOU BELIEVE THIS WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME BELIEVING IT LOL
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On September 08 2022 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 06:37 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 06:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 08 2022 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 06:22 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is your case about the bait or something real HF? The case on cop about baiting mafia to out themselves? It was another bait but I think it worked successfully. Reached the conclusion Cake was mafia without even needing the check. I think HF is mafia. I don't think the night shit makes any sense, even as VT. Also, he knows he has been blocked by Mattchew as per his words. So I'm about to fly and I haven't been able to read the thread thoroughly but has mattchew clarified whether he is a Jail Keeper or a doctor? Because if he's a jail keeper, this actually makes a decent amount of sense. I dont know but Mattchew already said this: On September 08 2022 03:57 Mattchew wrote:On September 08 2022 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mattchew do you know if there is a mafia roleblocker or not? Don't say anything else. i believe holy was roleblocked which made me believe that HF was jailed at some point. IF YOU BELIEVE THIS WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME BELIEVING IT LOL If you are VT you dont know if you are rb'd or not what the fuck is so hard to understand for you in that????????????????? mafia.
If you can think "this post could mean mattchew rbd hf n1" but can't equivocate that with me maybe thinking that was the case too (as a VT theorising whether my claim was good or bad) then I'll just laugh at you for the rest of my mafia career.
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On September 08 2022 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 06:40 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 06:37 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 06:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 08 2022 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 06:22 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is your case about the bait or something real HF? The case on cop about baiting mafia to out themselves? It was another bait but I think it worked successfully. Reached the conclusion Cake was mafia without even needing the check. I think HF is mafia. I don't think the night shit makes any sense, even as VT. Also, he knows he has been blocked by Mattchew as per his words. So I'm about to fly and I haven't been able to read the thread thoroughly but has mattchew clarified whether he is a Jail Keeper or a doctor? Because if he's a jail keeper, this actually makes a decent amount of sense. I dont know but Mattchew already said this: On September 08 2022 03:57 Mattchew wrote:On September 08 2022 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mattchew do you know if there is a mafia roleblocker or not? Don't say anything else. i believe holy was roleblocked which made me believe that HF was jailed at some point. IF YOU BELIEVE THIS WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME BELIEVING IT LOL If you are VT you dont know if you are rb'd or not what the fuck is so hard to understand for you in that????????????????? mafia. If you can think "this post could mean mattchew rbd hf n1" but can't equivocate that with me maybe thinking that was the case too (as a VT theorising whether my claim was good or bad) then I'll just laugh at you for the rest of my mafia career. You claimed both VT and rb'd. You are mafia. READ!
I did not claim both.
You said "Your claim was shit HF" and I said "My claim would have been exactly the same if I was a parity cop because Mattchew looks like he RBd me so everything I said last night would have been accurate".
If you can't piece together why I think he RBd me (I read into him saying I was confirmed town as him seeing I claimed being RBd last night and he was the one who did it and therefore thought my claim was legitimate - what I actually missed was that he said he just thought I was blue rather than anything about the RB) then I don't know what to tell you. That's a comprehension issue on your part, no matter how adamant you are that you're correct.
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I still don't know whether I was RBd (and reading Mattchew's filter you could interprete it either way tbh) but I didn't ever use it as a reason to call someone mafia.
I faked being RB to bait out a reaction and I simply pieced together Copcake's reactions to determine whether she was mafia or not, independently of whether or not I was actually RBd.
That's also why I ran the claim back AGAIN and said I would claim my checks at the end of the night, just in case I wasn't RBd and mafia gets confused and maybe wastes a RB on me because they're afraid.
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Dude, for real. You're just rambling. Quote my posts, outline your case and wait for Mattchew to respond. It's getting a bit tedious.
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On September 08 2022 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 04:36 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 04:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
Just assume I'm town and it's pretty solved? Cop is just doing the same things I accused her for yesterday but to MZ instead lol. Your fakeclaim was pretty flawed and stupid so i am considering all options pardon me. My fake claim was exactly what happened if I was a town parity cop??? Blocked by Mattchew, same check on Rels/Cop is identical to what's exactly happening now. Just sub Rels for Mattchew.
I have no conceivable way to get through to you if you just don't listen to a word I write. Why is what I said about Mattchew's posts indicating it looked like I was RBd unbelievable IF YOU THINK THE SAME THING?
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you better fucking rethink about it or I'll fookin have ya m8
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If mattchew is a JK who didn't ever save me then plz eliminate rayn tomorrow 11/10 times.
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On September 08 2022 06:53 Chezinu wrote:
HF is a veteran at this game.
This tracks.
I should know, I'm an excellent tracker.
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On September 08 2022 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
If mattchew is a JK who didn't ever save me then plz eliminate rayn tomorrow 11/10 times. fu
get fucked
egg on your face
what a waste of my life :D
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On September 08 2022 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 06:54 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:53 Chezinu wrote:
HF is a veteran at this game. This tracks. I should know, I'm an excellent tracker. I am not sure if i even want to do shit and if this is your "contribution" then we can fuck off
I contributed, I found two mafia. If you can't handle being wrong when you didn't want to listen to actual evidence and re-evaluate then that's on you. Don't blame me for you not reading my actual words or understanding what I'm saying, that's insanely rude.
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On September 08 2022 06:58 Vivax wrote:
Like, Tracker sees MZ claim and just...Nothing? I don't believe in two town investigatives, would be too low level setup for the games we used to have
How do I facepalm harder?
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How is what I'm saying not coming across as massive sarcasm?! Chez just added another role to my list and I responded with a joke lol.
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On September 08 2022 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 06:59 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2022 06:54 Holyflare wrote:On September 08 2022 06:53 Chezinu wrote:
HF is a veteran at this game. This tracks. I should know, I'm an excellent tracker. I am not sure if i even want to do shit and if this is your "contribution" then we can fuck off I contributed, I found two mafia. If you can't handle being wrong when you didn't want to listen to actual evidence and re-evaluate then that's on you. Don't blame me for you not reading my actual words or understanding what I'm saying, that's insanely rude. I have voted mafia more than you, go figure.
We've both voted one mafia, not sure how that works out.
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I found (important distinction). You can't tell me I haven't contributed because you're angry with yourself that your case fell flat on its face.
I'm clarifying that I did contribute. It's not a dick measuring contest, that's a strawman on your part. If you did case and vote for mafia then I'm happy for you but it's rude to say I haven't contributed when I have been trying to get people to see Cop as mafia for a long while.
I want our last game together to go smoothly. You just have to admit you're wrong from time to time and got overzealous instead of hurling insults at the person you were wrong about. That'd be a nice way to end at least.
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On September 08 2022 07:07 Vivax wrote:
My English contacts told me he likes to hang out in toilets at parks.
Jock was last seen at a park
Ironic considering I never ever step foot in public restrooms. Can't stand them and always hold it in until I get home :D
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On September 08 2022 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
I found (important distinction). You can't tell me I haven't contributed because you're angry with yourself that your case fell flat on its face. I agree, it's not my case that you have not contributed. Show nested quote +I'm clarifying that I did contribute. It's not a dick measuring contest, that's a strawman on your part. If you did case and vote for mafia then I'm happy for you but it's rude to say I haven't contributed when I have been trying to get people to see Cop as mafia for a long while. Nah, you said you found two mafia, who is the second one? Where is the evidence, that's the case. I don't care about the case on Cop, you said you found TWO MAFIA and you havent presented the other one. Show nested quote +I want our last game together to go smoothly. You just have to admit you're wrong from time to time and got overzealous instead of hurling insults at the person you were wrong about. That'd be a nice way to end at least. Okay. I wont be annoying, but i also wont be giving you leeway for shit reasons, make your case for NOT being mafia, okay?
Rels on day 1 and finally came around to it again yesterday. If Slam is mafia then also him too I guess, but not sure about that (I actually think Chezinu has been the most hesitant about voting on these wagons so it's probably him - and make this my case for third mafia finding :D).
I got shaken off Rels but only because so many LHF scummy people wanted to vote him. Just happened mafia were going down the insane bus route for no apparent reason (at this point I'm assuming Rels said he didn't want to play and to bus him if needed).
I never said it was your case but your last post on the page before this said "If this is all you're gonna contribute you can fuck off" or something to that effect. So, yeah. Sure.
Your case is to do with Mattchew who now confirmed he didn't actually RB me, so there's no case for me being mafia existing anymore. It was just you getting carried away about something you read too far into and that's fine. I don't want to burn that bridge. I misunderstood something Mattchew said and reacted negatively when you called my claim shit when it actually probably found CopCake as mafia for it. I don't take well to negativity about things I do, especially from someone I regard so well (and when it was most likely effective).
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Think it's also INSANELY convoluted for me to concoct that whole parity into rb into not rb maybe into call out my partner strategy as mafia when it's really just on brand for me to do as town and +ev vs huge -ev as mafia? I suppose you could argue I'd bait out blue claims but I think it should have been obvious why you shouldn't claim blue at night? At least, I thought the people in the game left would be intelligent enough to recognise that.
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Much love. Gonna go get swole now. I bought some weights to cram into my tiny office so I'm basically a gym bro.
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