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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 26 2020 21:18 GMT
#607
On November 27 2020 06:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think it's better for you to be a blue role because of the bodyguard mechanic.

I like this answer a lot more tbh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 26 2020 21:20 GMT
#608
Uh oh so... Anyways i am just gonna come out with it. Why did you decide to claim blue at the start of D2?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 26 2020 21:30 GMT
#613
I genuinely thought you were a vet because to me it only made sense why you would not run for mayor, then i saw there is no vet in the roles....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 26 2020 21:32 GMT
#614
So that means if youre town you were either roleblocked by mafia or jailed. I think i kinda fucked up also because i thought you would think like me and apparently you dont.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 26 2020 21:37 GMT
#617
Okay let's cut this discussion for now. I don't think it'll help anymore.

##vote Vivax
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 26 2020 21:38 GMT
#620
On November 26 2020 15:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Then jock's filter. His opening question to tictock sets the tone, jock asks a lot of questions, throws some shade here and there and talks about mechanics. Played a little clerical work tallying mayor preferences too.

Can you talk to me about this more?
What are the posts from jock that make you think this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 26 2020 21:39 GMT
#621
On November 27 2020 06:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2020 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's cut this discussion for now. I don't think it'll help anymore.

##vote Vivax

Do you have a series of posts to point to that'll help me on vivax?

Hapa's case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2020 17:14 GMT
#646
I am one fourth over my 16 hrs shift, i am gonna follow along the thread and post whenever i can. More activity will come tomorrow evening (my time).

About this:
On November 27 2020 07:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2020 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On November 24 2020 14:09 Tictock wrote:
Took a quick break from leveling (about 40% in) to read and stretch.

I take Trfel's bumbling to be fairly genuine and am ok hand waving Gracks tone as town (honestly have only skimmed his posts though).

If I had to shoot anyone right now (who has posted) I would kill FF.

See you guys in a few more levels.


I saw you throw shade at FF a little yesterday. Why you after him?



One of his first posts is asking why someone threw shade when all they did was say they'd shoot me

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On November 24 2020 21:53 Jockmcplop wrote:
On November 24 2020 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 24 2020 21:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 24 2020 09:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is hapa NOT campaigning then?

Now this is actually a townie question i have been waiting anyone to ask.

Well

Yeah which is why you wanting it to be you or him was sus as hell but then Trfel came and put his pants on his head and shat on the carpet so I was too busy going “wtf” at that.

Plus the occam’s razor hamblin’s razor whichever one.

I dont know if you realised it but i have been kinda being after this from my first post to him. I guess i can reveal my this thing: now.
On November 24 2020 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, we'll see about that later on then. Then i am also not gonna post the follow up i was going to yet.


I dont really think Hapa is town atm. I think he should at least maybe have some reads he doesnt atm.


What are you basing this off? Is it meta or just that in your opinion everyone should have reads at this point?

Well in my opinion everyone should have at least some reads at this moment. I also dont have to go further than last game where hapa's second post in the game is a read, followed by almost all of his posts being reads.


So when hap says he doesn't like to give reads early that should raise a huge red flag for you.


Shade at hapa that honestly jumped out at me more last night than it does now but I don't believe he followed up on this line of thought
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On November 25 2020 23:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On November 25 2020 23:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Mornin'.

So we have a lynch in 6 hours. This discussion needs to be about a) who is mayor, and b) who town wants dead. There are too many people talking about light suspicions and townreads. That is not important right now.

Trfel for mayor. Whoever is mayor should shoot Grack or Shockeyy.

I think Grack is mafia, and I think Trfel brought up the best point against him: he has been relatively active and running for mayor, but reading his filter, I have no sense of what is "platform" is and who he even wants lynched. That seems like the hallmark of scum "looking like they want to contribute."

Shockeyy is remarkably disengaged in this game. He is existing, but again, no idea of what he wants to accomplish beyond his mayoral preferences.


I disagree that townreads aren't important right now. They pretty much narrow down the pool of who can be mayor.
Clearly shockeyy has no people townreading him so he won't be mayor.

Out of the people claiming they want to be mayor, only slam and ticktock have said what they will do if elected.

That's a problem. Out of those two I would probably prefer slam because at least he's been here enough that i'm confident he knows exactly what is happening.

I'm unvoting grack because I don't feel like he has continued to engage with the mayor thing at all really like he never really wanted to be mayor in the first place.

Trfel seems like an odd choice to me. He hasn't said he wanted to be mayor and has given no indication of what he would do if he was mayor. I can't vote for him anyway.

Going into the details of who he'd like to be mayor and saying his best candidate is slam just because slam "knows what's happening" which when trying to make the mayorship into your sole purpose seems pretty lackluster.

Then basically he posts who the mayor preferences are, says rayn is a good pick then disappears well before deadline.

Truly not the most solid ground to stand this scumread on but until I get back to my computer it's what I have

I believe 2/3 of this case on jock happened before FF posted a town read on him. I can understand people changing their mind but i dont really believe people change their mind completely based on the same evidence they had before, and i dont really see this being a case of "X promised something and then didn't deliver", which would be appropriate explanation in my opinion.

So do you want to explain this FF, why does same stuff make jock town and mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2020 17:16 GMT
#647
On November 27 2020 07:43 Trfel wrote:
Nice job Hapahauli

What is this about?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2020 18:02 GMT
#648
On November 27 2020 14:08 Tictock wrote:
It occurs to me that I have basically poe'd myself down to Jock/Sho

Why not FF?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2020 18:03 GMT
#649
Wait what the hell. TT your filter says you want FF killed, you never go back on that read and now you have a poe of Jock/Shockeyy?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2020 18:18 GMT
#651
On November 28 2020 03:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 27 2020 07:43 Trfel wrote:
Nice job Hapahauli

What is this about?
This was about Hapahauli claiming the roleblock.

Okay so why was it "nice job"?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2020 18:55 GMT
#652
On November 27 2020 22:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2020 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
slam:
Will do what town decides

grack:
TT

TT:

FeFe

Rayn:
FF or TT

Fefe:
TT maybe Shockeyy

Trfel:
me, shockeyy, FF, TT, Grack

We need to get this down to 2 candidates who are trusted by town.

Personally I would have one of grack/rayn as mayor and maybe slam as pardoner.
I will probably revote grack just because I think TT has been super lazy just picking something Fefe said on the first page and leaving that as his scumread for the whole time.

On November 26 2020 01:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 26 2020 01:24 Vivax wrote:
On November 26 2020 00:54 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were mayor I'd kill Ticktock. I think he's less comfortable playing scum and more likely to lurk through the day because of his role than FF. (I know he's playing WoW but the thread isn't overwhelmingly large)

I wouldn't be upset though if any of FF/ShoCkey/TT are lynched.

Of active players Trfel is most likely mafia but I wouldn't gamble on that today, though I'd definitely like to avoid him being elected.


What's your take on Jock?


His post about Trfel was a good one and I think he has the right view on Rayn. I'm not sure what his reasoning was for changing his mind on Slam.


Although I didn't think slam's campaign naturally made him town, i never scumread him and still don't.


This for example is a mafia post. Tries to look helpful doing a mayor votecount, and doesn't take into consideration what he previously said he thought about Grack.

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On November 25 2020 23:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On November 25 2020 23:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Mornin'.

So we have a lynch in 6 hours. This discussion needs to be about a) who is mayor, and b) who town wants dead. There are too many people talking about light suspicions and townreads. That is not important right now.

Trfel for mayor. Whoever is mayor should shoot Grack or Shockeyy.

I think Grack is mafia, and I think Trfel brought up the best point against him: he has been relatively active and running for mayor, but reading his filter, I have no sense of what is "platform" is and who he even wants lynched. That seems like the hallmark of scum "looking like they want to contribute."

Shockeyy is remarkably disengaged in this game. He is existing, but again, no idea of what he wants to accomplish beyond his mayoral preferences.


I disagree that townreads aren't important right now. They pretty much narrow down the pool of who can be mayor.
Clearly shockeyy has no people townreading him so he won't be mayor.

Out of the people claiming they want to be mayor, only slam and ticktock have said what they will do if elected.

That's a problem. Out of those two I would probably prefer slam because at least he's been here enough that i'm confident he knows exactly what is happening.

I'm unvoting grack because I don't feel like he has continued to engage with the mayor thing at all really like he never really wanted to be mayor in the first place.


Trfel seems like an odd choice to me. He hasn't said he wanted to be mayor and has given no indication of what he would do if he was mayor. I can't vote for him anyway.


Regardless of who Grack wanted to lynch. Jock previously said that he wouldn't vote for him because of the low motivation to be mayor, and I don't think that changed at all approaching the lynch.

There is a span of two hours between these two posts from jock. Did you check what grack did during that time? If nothing that should make jock change his mind then i think this is actually a valid point.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2020 18:57 GMT
#653
Yeah no, not a valid point. Between this Grack has been advocating lynching TT.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2020 19:40 GMT
#654
Anyways at first glance Vivax's post toward Hapa makes sense. I am however gonna go and check how Vivax treats lynches in situations he particularly included in his post and see if that actually holds water.

I still dont think jock is mafia. Some of the points against him are just plain out terrible and dont even make anyone mafia, and i can clearly see why jock has (or rather would) done those things as town. Some of the points are so so... It is true that he has done those things (like Viva too) but i am just very unsure here that jock doing thoses things would make him mafia. I still am interested in his answers to the accusations against him.

I however think FecalFeast is most likely mafia here. Short version is that during N1 there were two cases that rose, jock and vivax. I get the impression that FF doesnt even know what the cases are and just decided to pick one of those two to push without much thinking. There are things that support that point:
- He doesnt even know what the case against Vivax is. I understand choosing from 2 "lynch targets" but he hasnt even read the case against Vivax
- His points on jock mostly happened at the time he townread jock. I dont know how that makes sense because apparently he doesnt even share the same opinion that jock's "irrationality" during slam campaign is suspicious (as it's not in his case). He has never talked about it either so i believe he hasnt even read it. Or if he has read it why hasn't he commented on it, even with "i agree" or "i dont think that makes jock mafia", after all jock is his top scumread it seems?

For those things i think FF is mafia. I can elaborate further in case someone thinks i am being unclear here, but that's not gonna happen befor e my second shift ends (in 9 hours).

##unvote Vivax
##vote Fecalfeast
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2020 01:19 GMT
#685
The other mafia is most likely trfel.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2020 01:26 GMT
#687
On November 27 2020 08:39 Trfel wrote:
Voted for Jockmcplop for now anyway, as I'm much more confident in him being mafia. Probably okay with consolidating on Vivax if needed

On November 28 2020 07:37 Trfel wrote:
I wouldn't be too sad if Fecalfeast is lynched



On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote:
Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks
Noooo, talk to me.....

@ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care...

There is this dude who just did that. Trfel. Then there is this dude who openly claimed to basically doing that. Well unfortunately it doesn't make him mafia, maybe it could make shockeyy mafia instead??

the plot thickens!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2020 05:09 GMT
#706
I just got home but i have really no care level to talk with mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2020 06:06 GMT
#711
Now please TT... Stop, think, and read for a while okay?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2020 06:13 GMT
#712
Why does everyone tell me they offend me in some way??
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