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I'm around.
7 players.
I'm town. Hapahauli claimed blue. Five left, two mafia.
If raynpelikoneet is mafia, he's playing exceptionally well. I almost want to call him mafia because I am not sure who is mafia and it almost feels like TMI on Jockmcplop, but that's not really fair. I don't have any actual reasons to call him mafia, so he is most likely town.
Tictock feels towny, he's felt especially invested as of late. I remember him being able to replicate his town play fairly well as mafia, however his most recent mafia game has much more rigid posting than this game. So tone also says he is town. I would say Tictock is a good chance of being town, but could be wrong.
Leaves Fecalfeast, ShoCkeyy, and Vivax. I looked through Fecalfeast and ShoCkeyy's filters earlier and didn't find very much useful stuff. While I'm glad Fecalfeast has started to put a bit more effort in, I haven't yet seen anything too alignment indicative. Though I could very well be missing stuff. Vivax also feels towny to me, though that's just a weak impression and I still need to check his filter.
Honestly everyone kinda feels like town, which isn't a great place to be  Makes me wonder if raynpelikoneet or Hapahauli is mafia after all. I will review Hapahauli's filter but I can't find any reasons to justify them being mafia though So I dunno. Bleh.
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Something else to note is that if raynpelikoneet is town, knowing that I am town, mafia didn't attempt to campaign for mayor at all. I find this really strange. I don't think it means that raynpelikoneet is mafia, rather I think it means that mafia just didn't have a ton of thread influence at the time. Dunno if it is helpful, probably not, but I'm trying.
Raynpelikoneet, I don't imagine you want to talk to me today?
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On November 29 2020 15:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont really want to talk with anyone today. It's quite amazing when i am town either everyone thinks i am mafia or everyone thinks i am town but noone listens to me even though they might have voted me for mayor...
But youre kinda right, i feel like it's especially useless talking with you atm since i am quite confident you are mafia with FF and even if you are town you either stick to whatever you believe anyways, or say youre gonna look at something and then in fact straight out do nothing about it. I feel like I'm pretty easy to have my opinion swayed? And if I say I'll look at something, I always do, even if I don't report back my results. I also have no real opinions right now so it would be hard to stick to my own beliefs.
If I wasn't in the game, who would be mafia with Fecalfeast? I'll go remind myself why you are scumreading Fecalfeast so strongly.
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No, wait, I remember now why you are scumreading Fecalfeast. Hm.
I mean, you could be right, I just have scumread Fecalfeast so much when he is town, I'm hesitant to do so here. Even if the reasons are more blatant. Which maybe makes me bad. But I'm bad anyway, so it doesn't really say much...
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Fair enough, thank you for answering. That's actually extremely helpful.
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On November 29 2020 23:08 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2020 06:24 Trfel wrote:
And Vivax, I don't believe you ever responded to my comments yesterday? Specifically, when did you actually catch up with the thread and start to have solid reads? You had multiple posts going on. Which ones in particular do you mean and I don't get what you mean with the last sentence? My reads are far from solid after the Jock flip. I have little conviction on any read besides on you. I think I'd be ok with Fefe as town as well purely tone wise without the semi-martyr-y posts which read too smug for my taste. I'll just simplify down to one question. Why did you stop scumreading Alakaslam? I get that this happened as you were catching up with the thread, but what was the reasoning for it?
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##Vote: Hapahauli
Yes, MYLO.
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Unless we want to try and no-lynch, but I'm pretty sure he is mafia.
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On November 30 2020 05:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
So the only way it's not lylo is if the kill is vetoed today so....
I'm the bodyguard I mean, we're allowed to vote for a no-lynch, correct?
Nice though. We can decide later if a no-lynch is what we want to do, now that you're (presumably) confirmed town it doesn't make a ton of sense to no-lynch though.
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On November 30 2020 05:08 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2020 14:17 Trfel wrote:I'm around. 7 players. I'm town. Hapahauli claimed blue. Five left, two mafia. If raynpelikoneet is mafia, he's playing exceptionally well. I almost want to call him mafia because I am not sure who is mafia and it almost feels like TMI on Jockmcplop, but that's not really fair. I don't have any actual reasons to call him mafia, so he is most likely town. Tictock feels towny, he's felt especially invested as of late. I remember him being able to replicate his town play fairly well as mafia, however his most recent mafia game has much more rigid posting than this game. So tone also says he is town. I would say Tictock is a good chance of being town, but could be wrong. Leaves Fecalfeast, ShoCkeyy, and Vivax. I looked through Fecalfeast and ShoCkeyy's filters earlier and didn't find very much useful stuff. While I'm glad Fecalfeast has started to put a bit more effort in, I haven't yet seen anything too alignment indicative. Though I could very well be missing stuff. Vivax also feels towny to me, though that's just a weak impression and I still need to check his filter. Honestly everyone kinda feels like town, which isn't a great place to be Makes me wonder if raynpelikoneet or Hapahauli is mafia after all. I will review Hapahauli's filter but I can't find any reasons to justify them being mafia though So I dunno. Bleh. what happened to this? Raynpelilkoneet changed my mind.
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On November 30 2020 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I cant find the enthusiasm of checking the flip. I get you're claiming blue Trfel? Yeah, I don't really see much of a way around it.
I dunno, I've had no idea what to do with my role this game.
The key though, is that I was roleblocked last night. Which means that mafia decided to not only not kill Hapahauli, but not roleblock him (I don't believe they would have two roleblockers).
So that makes Hapahauli almost certainly mafia. I don't understand the setup of this game; part of me still wants to believe that there are three town power roles, especially with the parity cop being a weaker one, but after talking with raynpelikoneet I kinda doubt that.
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I know this will probably end in my very sad mislynch But I guess it's still what I have to try and do.
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Looked through Hapahauli's filter. I have maybe 2-3 reasons to call him mafia (other than knowing I'm town) but unfortunately they aren't very strong.
I dunno, this is a really lousy situation to be in. But gotta try.
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On November 30 2020 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should have waited though if youre town Trfel... For the rbclaim i think. Sorry. Can I ask why? Unless it is better for you to answer later.
Mafia already knows everything anyway.
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On November 30 2020 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2020 05:37 Trfel wrote:On November 30 2020 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should have waited though if youre town Trfel... For the rbclaim i think. Sorry. Can I ask why? Unless it is better for you to answer later. Mafia already knows everything anyway. Because if you dont claim roleblock mafia!hapa might. that's 100% at least for you. Fair enough, I guess there was no doubt in my mind that he would claim roleblock (in fact, I still expect him to). That does make sense though. Noted for next time, thanks.
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Can I ask, what's the point of having Hapahauli claim his role/potential action first? Mafia literally knows my role anyway... I imagine he'll just claim my exact role to maintain the setup balance.
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On November 30 2020 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont know your role.
I find you slightly more likely to be town since you claimed the roleblock immediately (making it less likely hapa is town for what you said before about mafia not killing him and not roleblocking him).
I also dont know why mafia knows your role, why would they know it? So whatever assumed mafia!Hapa claims is less likely to be legit at least from my pov in case he does it first. I've been waiting here for you to figure everything out, setup-wise, but it makes sense that it's a bit too much to figure out without any information (I guess if you want an interesting mental puzzle you can try and figure out my role). But mafia does know everything.
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On November 30 2020 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont bluehunt when i am town. I have my guess but it's not really helpful to say it here. Fair enough. I guess we're just waiting for Hapahauli then.
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On November 30 2020 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going back to the discussion between me and hapa about if the mayor should be a blue or not. What's your take on that now Trfel? I guess I was thinking it would be better for the mayor to have a power role so they could guarantee using it for longer? Which is why I kinda wanted to be mayor.
I get that my "campaign" is a weird kind of way, instead of announcing that I want to be mayor I just play my game and if people think I'm towny and have good reads, they can vote for me. I also didn't want to push too hard for mayor, both because I didn't want to give away having a role and because I wasn't sure what to do with the mayor lynch power (also because mayor tends to have the pressure of LYLO... see how effective that was  ).
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On November 30 2020 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would mayor have some pressure they wont otherwise in lylo? Oh, I just meant because they will almost certainly survive until LYLO. Thus they will have the pressure of having to do LYLO.
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