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On November 25 2020 02:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 02:46 Grackaroni wrote:On November 25 2020 01:37 Vivax wrote:
Grack have you arrived to anything conclusion-wise in regards to Trfel?
Or any other player for that matter. Feels like now you're just sitting back waiting to see what gets thrown at you. I really just don't get quick reads the way other people tend to do. I actually spend a lot of time reading too funnily enough. You're right that Trfel seems pretty comfortable when talking about me/Rayn but I do think his opening post was an uncomfortable one. I expected to be scum reading Jock going into a filter dive but I came out thinking his point on Trfel is actually a good one. Trfel seemed like he really wanted to push out his read that Slam was approaching his mayor run in a townie way, but then at the end he's waffling because Slam is being persistent? The only thing I'd feel pretty strongly so far is that Hapa is town. Where did that expectation come from? You sound a lot like you have a Trfel suspicion but are hesitant to say it, which I think Hapa already mentioned (and that makes him town?). Was the mayor thing serious? Since you haven't really said on what premise you'd lynch. Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 24 2020 09:15 Alakaslam wrote:On November 24 2020 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 24 2020 09:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is hapa NOT campaigning then? Now this is actually a townie question i have been waiting anyone to ask.  Well Yeah which is why you wanting it to be you or him was sus as hell but then Trfel came and put his pants on his head and shat on the carpet so I was too busy going “wtf” at that. Plus the occam’s razor hamblin’s razor whichever one. I dont know if you realised it but i have been kinda being after this from my first post to him. I guess i can reveal my this thing: now. On November 24 2020 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Okay, we'll see about that later on then. Then i am also not gonna post the follow up i was going to yet.  I dont really think Hapa is town atm. I think he should at least maybe have some reads he doesnt atm. So, did he build them yet?
That was mostly just my gut call going into it. Perhaps a mistrust of his town read on me from what I said about Slam.
I'm on the fence. I initially would have put him as a slight town lean but after you asked me I started looking further and I might go in the opposite direction if prodded.
Hapa is town independent of his read on me. He's laying out cases for who he thinks is town (Trfel) and trying to make him mayor. I trust that he looked through some of Slam's scum games and I like that he made a post stating high confidence in these reads.
Plus you've got to love him calling out Rayn for not getting into a rant with him after complaining about Rayn always fighting him.
On November 25 2020 02:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Based on my own interactions with you this game (Rayn), I am also somewhat surprised that we aren't ranting at each other yet. This doesn't make you inherently mafia, but the tone is different enough for me to take notice, and for me to nod my head when others take notice.
I assume the mayor will make clear who they are looking to kill and people will end up voting based off that. At the moment I don't think that's clear from anybody yet. Realistically I'm more likely to be lynched than lynching, but I'll go for it anyway.
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On November 25 2020 03:40 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 03:25 Grackaroni wrote:... Plus you've got to love him calling out Rayn for not getting into a rant with him after complaining about Rayn always fighting him. On November 25 2020 02:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Based on my own interactions with you this game (Rayn), I am also somewhat surprised that we aren't ranting at each other yet. This doesn't make you inherently mafia, but the tone is different enough for me to take notice, and for me to nod my head when others take notice.
... In all seriousness, why would this make me "town"? On its face, isn't this an inconsistency in my story?
I don't think it's one that would point to you being mafia. Probably pretty hypocritical expectations for Rayn but I'd understand being annoyed at being pressured and still having a baseline expectation for it to happen from experience.
I think I'm sucked in by all of the head nodding and notice taking. (Real reason is I just have a strong anticipation that you are going to be one of the most active and engaged from the way you've been posting so far, and I don't really have high expectations from you as mafia - though feel free to prove me wrong.)
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If there's one reason why mafia would not want to be mayor it's that if they kill a town they are overwhelmingly likely to be checked at night.
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On November 25 2020 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am basically looking at
shockeyy, ff as mafia.
TT has fallen off quite tremendously after his (i think) townie start.
Then there is Hapa and Trfel.
Everyone else i am quite comfortable calling town.
I'm surprised. I don't think it will be that easy.
I'd bet on Slam being town as well at this point. The way he's focussing on you not pushing hard to become mayor strikes me as town.
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On November 25 2020 12:29 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am basically looking at
shockeyy, ff as mafia.
TT has fallen off quite tremendously after his (i think) townie start.
Then there is Hapa and Trfel.
Everyone else i am quite comfortable calling town.
I'm surprised. I don't think it will be that easy. I'd bet on Slam being town as well at this point. The way he's focussing on you not pushing hard to become mayor strikes me as town.
My thought is that Slam has his own unique concerns that shine through as town that most people don't care about while as mafia you don't see that as much as he tries to blend.
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On November 25 2020 12:30 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 12:18 Grackaroni wrote:
If there's one reason why mafia would not want to be mayor it's that if they kill a town they are overwhelmingly likely to be checked at night.
not me of course though because I would most definitely kill a mafia. 
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On November 25 2020 12:31 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 12:29 Grackaroni wrote:On November 25 2020 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am basically looking at
shockeyy, ff as mafia.
TT has fallen off quite tremendously after his (i think) townie start.
Then there is Hapa and Trfel.
Everyone else i am quite comfortable calling town.
I'm surprised. I don't think it will be that easy. I'd bet on Slam being town as well at this point. The way he's focussing on you not pushing hard to become mayor strikes me as town. Yeah and then he says “I should be mayor” after I finally get a flat tire for my wheel from him. But he did give me a tire. Which was all I asked for. He also put whipped cream on it MVGA
I have no idea what you're talking about lol.
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On November 25 2020 12:34 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 12:32 Grackaroni wrote:On November 25 2020 12:30 Alakaslam wrote:On November 25 2020 12:18 Grackaroni wrote:
If there's one reason why mafia would not want to be mayor it's that if they kill a town they are overwhelmingly likely to be checked at night. not me of course though because I would most definitely kill a mafia. Well and you are running. Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 12:33 Grackaroni wrote:On November 25 2020 12:31 Alakaslam wrote:On November 25 2020 12:29 Grackaroni wrote:On November 25 2020 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am basically looking at
shockeyy, ff as mafia.
TT has fallen off quite tremendously after his (i think) townie start.
Then there is Hapa and Trfel.
Everyone else i am quite comfortable calling town.
I'm surprised. I don't think it will be that easy. I'd bet on Slam being town as well at this point. The way he's focussing on you not pushing hard to become mayor strikes me as town. Yeah and then he says “I should be mayor” after I finally get a flat tire for my wheel from him. But he did give me a tire. Which was all I asked for. He also put whipped cream on it MVGA I have no idea what you're talking about lol. Read Rayn’s interaction with me Page 11 I think?
I'm technically the front runner!
The trick is to demonize your opponents. Call them names like Raging Rayn and Shady 'Hapa' Hauli. Then people will know not to vote for them.
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On November 25 2020 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If Grack were to become mayor as mafia, he would literally crush the town, not the other way around since it’s still a 10% chance of hitting the right player.
Anyone have any idea what this 10% is supposed to be?
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If I were mayor I'd kill Ticktock. I think he's less comfortable playing scum and more likely to lurk through the day because of his role than FF. (I know he's playing WoW but the thread isn't overwhelmingly large)
I wouldn't be upset though if any of FF/ShoCkey/TT are lynched.
Of active players Trfel is most likely mafia but I wouldn't gamble on that today, though I'd definitely like to avoid him being elected.
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On November 26 2020 00:54 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, if you are mayor who do you kill? Or who would you consider killing?
whoops sniped.
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On November 26 2020 01:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 00:54 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were mayor I'd kill Ticktock. I think he's less comfortable playing scum and more likely to lurk through the day because of his role than FF. (I know he's playing WoW but the thread isn't overwhelmingly large)
I wouldn't be upset though if any of FF/ShoCkey/TT are lynched.
Of active players Trfel is most likely mafia but I wouldn't gamble on that today, though I'd definitely like to avoid him being elected. What's your take on Jock?
His post about Trfel was a good one and I think he has the right view on Rayn. I'm not sure what his reasoning was for changing his mind on Slam.
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I'm guessing you're going to vote for Trfel, Vivax?
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Have you read any of my games?
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On November 26 2020 02:30 Hapahauli wrote:Yes, I read a lot of them in Aperture. I will probably read them again. I was unable to draw any concrete conclusions from them. I am conscious of the fact that I did horribly misread you in all of Aperture, seemingly due to how "reactive" your playstyle is. This game... you are this mix of pro-active (campaign) followed by re-active (not much in the way of reads). It is this dissonance that I think makes you mafia.
If that's what bothers you I try to run for mayor in pretty much every game that has one. This is the first time I've been seriously considered (it seems because you/Rayn both didn't really want it too badly.)
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The thread seems to be divided into two camps atm.
There's a Rayn camp where Rayn townreads Jock/Slam/Vivax/Slam/Me with lot of people in that group townreading or more or less trusting each other.
Then there's a Trfel camp with Trfel having Rayn as his primary suspect and Hapa/ShoCkeyy voting Trfel mainly I believe to try to get rid of me.
Obviously I'd rather we consolidate on anyone outside of Trfel for Mayor and hope that Rayn's grasp on the game so far is good. (I think it is)
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On November 26 2020 02:45 Tictock wrote:
I should put in time, but seeing how people are reading me kinda just makes me not care.
I understand I am not putting in much effort, but I do not get where this expectation of me is coming from right now, and besides... also much more importantly... eh
I'm not locked in on any read of you.
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On November 26 2020 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still have no idea why FF thinks his reads are whatever he said. I really dont know why he thinks anything, and it looks like he doesnt know himself even..
FF's catchup post was pretty lame.
He says I'm mafia earlier and then doesn't even bother to read my posts. I think maybe he's trying to act aloof.
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I was so close and yet so far.
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