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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 23 2019 20:04 GMT
#1056
So we're right back where we started but in lylo
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 23 2019 20:20 GMT
#1059
If hf is mafia and tried to use the no lynch to kill town i'm going to be absolutely furious.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 23 2019 20:29 GMT
#1072
I PMd Slam and asked.
I remembered this exchange before the game when slam had already decided to start with 9 players and you asked to join:

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 14 2019 14:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2019 12:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont really care what you do. Just lmk if you do the vengeful shot so i can out.

Then it will not be done. All players have absolute veto power.

As per the additional vote, and my desire to do this before my heavier work season starts, signups for positions other than replacement are now closed. Confirmation PMs will go out very soon. Once we have all confirmed and voted, we will congregate to go over setup.

Then, I will confirm once more when I have set the deadline, and we will begin.

I must look at my schedule and see what time of day absolutely always works.


+ Show Spoiler +


Whaaaaat their official music video, though good, is NSFW

BAH

WHY

On August 14 2019 15:53 reps)squishy wrote:
Looks like it is starting
If I can backup I would love to

anyway
/in
if I can

On August 14 2019 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam if you add Squishy you can make 8v2 and give mafia 2x NK night 3.



So I PMd slam to ask him and he PMd me back saying mafia gets 2 kills.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 23 2019 20:36 GMT
#1079
On August 24 2019 05:31 Chezinu wrote:
I first read squishy's post as 1 day kill (lynch) and 1 night kill = 2 kills for mafia.


You have to squint pretty hard to see that
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 23 2019 21:16 GMT
#1101
Let me ask you something chezinu do you really think squishy killed FF because he misread something you wrote?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 23 2019 21:24 GMT
#1106
On August 24 2019 06:19 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ask you something chezinu do you really think squishy killed FF because he misread something you wrote?


Jock, just as you pointed out many possibilities when trying to discern who the mafia are. I too myself think of possibilities. There was a possibly that you couldn't even dream of. You were confident (or so it seemed) that squishy could not be mafia because he would not kill FF. But what if squishy thought FF was blue? Would that change the story?

I like to explore my options. When an option is ignored, I like to bring it up in the thread in a troll like fashion. But it seems like the players this game (except vivax and rayn) can't handle the matter in which I play this game. I guess i will have to speak plainly...


I'm also trying to explore possibilities chez.
I'm trying to see things from hf's point of view re: squishy. Your thing about the FF NK is of particular interest to me because that's why i townread squishy in the first place so I asked because I want to know whether you think it happened or whether you are just pointing out that it might have happened.

I like your riddles and trolling but I confess I don't know how to read it in any relevant way unfortunately.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 23 2019 22:14 GMT
#1139
On August 24 2019 07:02 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:58 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.

HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?

Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.

Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.

squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.



What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia.


Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing.

Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong.
Post asking who I'm mafia with.
Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence.
Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia.
Posts that ask what people think of other people.
Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation.
Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts.
Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list.


Now I'm actually reading your posts:

On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...



Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.


You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu?


LOL

hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake.


The whole premise of this game is to hunt inconsistencies and make people answer them. So, which is it? Is he misunderstanding you or does he understand you. What read do you have on rayn?


Both (he understood that the list was a troll, but he misunderstood what I was saying and that I was implying that you and rayn are mafia).

and I don't have a read on rayn

On August 24 2019 07:11 Chezinu wrote:
I think a Rayn lynch would be a nice way to end this.


Hey holyflare I found one of those inconsistencies you were hunting.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 23 2019 22:15 GMT
#1142
I'm not the cop.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 07:25 GMT
#1179
rayn you gonna explain what happened last night in the eyes of rayn?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 07:26 GMT
#1180
I don't really want to vote squishy. I think its because I already spent so long picking on him and he only just got townread. I'm not as excited about his potential slip last night as hf is. Squishy's explanation looks real to me.

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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 07:27 GMT
#1181
Chezinu though.....
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 07:29 GMT
#1182
Holyflare dude look at who jumped on that wagon with you.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 07:36 GMT
#1183
Oh wait I didn't see chez had voted for rayn

Slam can you fix that vote count please? It has chezinu's vote in two places
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 07:45 GMT
#1184
This is frustrating.
We need a single wagon with everyone 5 people on it by the end of the day or we're done for.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING SQUISHY.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 08:22 GMT
#1187
OK ES thanks

But I unvoted after the no-lynch and squishy is missing from there...

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 09:04 GMT
#1189
Thanks ES
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 15:28 GMT
#1202
On August 24 2019 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you even realise what you are doing jock?


No I don't think so

On August 24 2019 22:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
This is frustrating.
We need a single wagon with everyone 5 people on it by the end of the day or we're done for.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING SQUISHY.


Just claim then, fuck me.


Not a cop.


@Copcake what are you thinking right now?
Chezinu last night was worse than squishy imo. On the one hand defending squishy, then saying he's trolling, then asking random questions that seem like distractions and ends up voting for both squishy and then rayn? Seemed to be consciously trying to buddy you:

On August 24 2019 05:47 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:46 CopCake wrote:
How am I scumhunting rn I am the most useless person here

You are a reaction reader like me.




Also don't forget hf's points about chezinu #1116

I think he's a much better lynch than squishy and probably our best chance to hit scum.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 16:15 GMT
#1205
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 16:18 GMT
#1207
On August 25 2019 01:17 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 01:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.


Was it because he was afk and shit?

Then there you have it.

I know he gets really pissed when that happens.



It was complicated i don't think he was afk. lots of factors, but people didn't take his offensive drunk posting as town the way they probably should have done (me included!)
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
August 24 2019 16:22 GMT
#1208
CHEZINU

Didn't take action on the squishy lynch in the way you might think he did:

On August 24 2019 06:23 Holyflare wrote:

Squishy clarifies that he's VT and actually misread based off of my post or something.

I kind of like the cut of his jib and his tone is slightly sincere so I'm wavering.



THEN AFTERWARDS:
On August 24 2019 07:24 Chezinu wrote:
##unvote
##vote raynpelikoneet



He wasn't taking action he was following hf's lead. Parking his vote away from squishy because he doesn't think the vote's going to end up there.
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