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On August 24 2019 06:10 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:07 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 06:04 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?
Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right? But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win. There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy. Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches. day lynch + night kill night kill + next night killIf we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing. day lynch + night kill Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill. back to only 1 night killI don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea. So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes. Or... He just slipped big time. Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even? Where did I defend him? That was an assumption you made and decided to tell everyone that. Rayn at least knew I literally divided the player list in half and placed numbers to troll people. But people want to believe I was serious about that. I didn't even reorder the list. It's the same list as in the OP. The part where you took his post and coloured everything to make sense from a town perspective or a perspective where the guy doesn't know mafia get 2nk. This looks really reallllyyyy bad for you now that he just admitted he thought it was 2nk because of my post. I'm half tempted to believe his vt claim and lynch you. You have been very crazy this game HF. You accuse without base. You keep twisting players words in this game to fit your narrative. Even if you are talented at it. It is getting very old. You have over done it this game.
I think I've been extremely open and forthright this game and no misconstrued really anything.
Please highlight where I've done such things. I will wait.
All I can see is the following:
I've started a no lynch train because it's optimal for town.
Squishy slipped about 2 mafia NK's.
You said some ridiculous points about how his post could mean something else.
I counter it and ask why there is massive inconsistency in your logic/reading.
You ignore it.
Squishy clarifies that he's VT and actually misread based off of my post or something.
I kind of like the cut of his jib and his tone is slightly sincere so I'm wavering.
This makes your post look incredibly like someone who:
A) Knows Squishy's alignment is town and thus he can't possibly know there are 2 mafia KP as it's not in the thread.
B) Tries to make the Squishy post fit the above's narrative.
No, I don't understand any of your posts because I simply don't read them as they are vapid excuses for blending in. I don't really care if there's an underlying meaning I'd much rather you just post the actual meaning and get on with it. It's very much anti win con if you are town and perfect if you are mafia. Ergo you are anti town or mafia and combined with the bold are very much likely to be mafia.
Shooting into FF and Vivax are very very weird plays and reminiscent of someone going for blues IMO too seeing as Vivax wasn't nearly town cleared and FF absolutely was not and wasn't really doing much of anything.
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On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.
HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?
Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.
What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia.
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On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?
Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right? But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win. There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy. Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches. day lynch + night kill night kill + next night killIf we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing. day lynch + night kill Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill. back to only 1 night killI don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea. So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes. Or... He just slipped big time.
On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.
HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?
Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.
What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia.
Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing.
Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong.
Post asking who I'm mafia with.
Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence.
Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia.
Posts that ask what people think of other people.
Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation.
Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts.
Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list.
Now I'm actually reading your posts:
On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu?
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I am in a really foul mood after this 2kp bull shit by the way.
Not only have I outed myself as a VT if we lynch correctly but if Squishy is town then they know he is very probably a VT too. That gives them a 50% chance to kill the cop instead of the max 33% that I had planned.
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On August 24 2019 06:58 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?
Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right? But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win. There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy. Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches. day lynch + night kill night kill + next night killIf we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing. day lynch + night kill Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill. back to only 1 night killI don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea. So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes. Or... He just slipped big time. On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.
HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?
Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.
What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia. Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing. Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong. Post asking who I'm mafia with. Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence. Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia. Posts that ask what people think of other people. Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation. Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts. Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list. Now I'm actually reading your posts: On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu? LOL hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake.
The whole premise of this game is to hunt inconsistencies and make people answer them. So, which is it? Is he misunderstanding you or does he understand you. What read do you have on rayn?
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On August 24 2019 07:01 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
I am in a really foul mood after this 2kp bull shit by the way.
Not only have I outed myself as a VT if we lynch correctly but if Squishy is town then they know he is very probably a VT too. That gives them a 50% chance to kill the cop instead of the max 33% that I had planned. How do you know this?
On August 24 2019 05:47 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 05:28 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?
Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right? But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win. There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy. Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches. If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing. Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill. I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea. On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight. Nope nope nope. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Your post came before Jock's  Unlucky. I was trying to comprehend what no lynch would do. And why no lynch would be a good thing? If we no lynch they get two town kills yes? Now mafia gets two town kills regardless? After Jock's pm How do mafia get 2 town kills if we no lynch? On what planet is that correct unless you know mafia gets 2 kills? I literally had no idea what I was talking about. I read your if there is 2nk post here: https://tl.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=1033&topic_id=550431And I took it at face value to why no lynch would be good. I am vanilla town. Remember reading this would be a VERY vanilla game because it is vaporwave. Well I am the third vanilla towny. I may have just thrown this game for town because I did not know what I was talking about.
Just taking his post at face value, the tone seemed pretty townie.
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I wouldn't have believed a word of what he said if it wasn't coupled with Chezinu's abhorrent posts the past few pages. He's pulling a N1 rayn where he tries to discredit and avoids answering any culpable questions.
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On August 24 2019 07:02 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:48 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 05:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
If hf is mafia and tried to use the no lynch to kill town i'm going to be absolutely furious.
Copcake, what do you think about HF? He is not as cool as other games in scumhunting. I think he wants the cop to out himself.
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The cop should absolutely out themselves in mylo with 2kp the next night anyway.
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And I know you're the cop copcake so I really just want your reads instead.
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Well I don't believe you but you can hold on to your reads if you want. If you have two people checked that are alive and one of them is me I will never ever forgive you for not revealing them.
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oh god fml if squishy is the cop and checked ff and jock
seriously fml
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Jock just end our misery with your cop checks T_T
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Oh... one of them is me isn't it. That's why you've been reticent to lynch me. Reckon the other one is dead :D
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Then Rayn is the cop and Chezinu wants to lynch him? :D
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Rayn isn't ballsy I bet he fucking copped Vivax to check his sanity and then wasted it on me with some pleb move so we have no useful checks.
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On August 24 2019 07:19 CopCake wrote:
No HF I am not the cop, I picked rayn as town over you because I doubt like pretty HIGH that he wouldnt rage quit like that as town, besides I know he is busy irl.
I didnt want to say it but there.
I already know why you town read Rayn. That doesn't bother me and doesn't really explain why he's alive if I'm mafia either.
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Just in case one of you people that are claiming not cop are cops. This is a game where it is very likely REQUIRED for mafia to fake claim cop tomorrow if they don't correctly shoot into you (which is extremely likely with 2kp they will absolutely hit the cop). Thus, you won't get off any more checks, you won't survive and you if you don't die you will be in a claim battle tomorrow that you must win or we lose.
OR you can just claim now, get as much information into the thread as possible, you will HOPEFULLY have checks that are alive (at least 2) and when you are shot, they can only shoot ONE OF YOUR READS. If those reads are different checks then that gives us a view to your sanity and we have one confirmed townie or one confirmed mafia in the thread tomorrow.
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On August 23 2019 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think jock and squishy are mafia together so atm my best bet for mafia is chezinu. there is probably 1 mafia in jock/squishy (or hf), and i also don't think hf+squishy pair is amongst my top picks. chezinu fits with everyone and chezinu doesn't look town to me.
Different checks on squishy and jock?
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On August 24 2019 07:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Shut up i know who the cop is. If you have "different" check then claim, if you dont then dont. I also know who mafia is.
They should claim if they have 2 checks on alive people. It's fucking lylo.
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Doesn't matter if same or different.
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