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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:00 GMT
#998
On August 24 2019 02:56 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).

Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.


Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted?

I don't think so. That's not saying much though chezinu hasn't interacted with me neither and probably a coupleof other people (I'm literally offended by this).

Checking through chez's filter there are some mild interactions, probably as many if not more than with anyone else to be honest.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:05 GMT
#1003
On August 24 2019 03:03 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:56 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).

Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.


Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted?

I don't think so. That's not saying much though chezinu hasn't interacted with me neither and probably a coupleof other people (I'm literally offended by this).

Checking through chez's filter there are some mild interactions, probably as many if not more than with anyone else to be honest.


He interacted with me, a little bit with Ewya when he believed it was a woman and I guess with squishy?



Yeah and he quoted and replied to a few of hf's posts too


RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:09 GMT
#1008
On August 24 2019 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
Chezinu is the probably the ideal lynch today because he has done shit all and has no investment in anything. He arbitrarily does thing based on if someone is female or not and probably tried to pocket people.

I'm not even sure who he scum reads. Cop and squishy?


I would lynch chezinu with you.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:15 GMT
#1011
On August 24 2019 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
Chezinu is the probably the ideal lynch today because he has done shit all and has no investment in anything. He arbitrarily does thing based on if someone is female or not and probably tried to pocket people.

I'm not even sure who he scum reads. Cop and squishy?


I would lynch chezinu with you.



But then who is the other mafia?


Rayn.
You think chezinu and squishy?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:22 GMT
#1013
The thing that is most suspicious to me about chez is the way he spent so long going on about blues in the early game like he was trying to get a reaction out of people.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:42 GMT
#1019
On August 14 2019 01:25 Alakaslam wrote:
9 player setup suggestions:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Even-Odd_Killers
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Alternating_9P
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C-C9
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9_+_2
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=CD9*
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=SS9

Now taking other suggestions!

We might wait for more signups but let’s start discussing the nines


C-C9 has the possibility of insane cop.
I remember commenting that that was my favourite setup at the time.

On August 14 2019 01:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
I like C-C9 personally but I'm happy with any of those to be honest

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:54 GMT
#1027
On August 24 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
If you have any doubts about my alignment you can feel free to vote a no lynch because I'll likely be shot. If I'm not shot then at least it gets rid of one of you guys for me.


I don't think we're more likely to be able to get 2 mafia in a row with you gone than we are to get 1/2 mafia with a lynch today.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:54 GMT
#1029
On August 24 2019 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
I think it might be able to be broken if we no lynch even.

OK explain it to me like i'm a child. with details and examples and stuff so i really get it.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:55 GMT
#1031
I just remembered something hang on...
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 18:57 GMT
#1032
On August 14 2019 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam if you add Squishy you can make 8v2 and give mafia 2x NK night 3.


Slam never replied to this but we should ask and be sure before we talk about a no lynch.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 19:14 GMT
#1035
OK well I'm voting chezinu for now.
If a cop comes forward then I'll think about a no lynch.

At the moment its all just maybes.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 19:18 GMT
#1037
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 19:21 GMT
#1041
On August 24 2019 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


This is directly anti town. You may as well claim mafia at this point.


Wanna explain how?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 19:27 GMT
#1043
On August 24 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


It is exactly the same if we lynch mafia today. It's still mylo tomorrow. But then there's far more risk being wrong today.


Oh yeah sorry i was just working it out wrong.

Haha stupid.

Ok I'll go with a no lynch.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 19:47 GMT
#1048
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 19:48 GMT
#1049
On August 24 2019 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
Uh huuuh


You don't believe i would make that kind of mistake? Have you ever played mafia with me before? I've done pages of working out before realising I forgot one of the players once.

What so you think i literally lied about the basic setup of the game hoping no-one would notice.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 19:56 GMT
#1051
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Not true. If a mislynch for town loses either way and they aren't sure who mafia is, having less margin for error is optimal.

I just read this page because I haven't really been in a no lynch situation before:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=No_Lynch

According to this its mathematically advantageous to have an odd number of players.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 19:57 GMT
#1052
On August 24 2019 04:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Not true. If a mislynch for town loses either way and they aren't sure who mafia is, having less margin for error is optimal.

I just read this page because I haven't really been in a no lynch situation before:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=No_Lynch

According to this its mathematically advantageous to have an odd number of players.

*EBWOP* Lower odds to mislynch not less margin for error
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 20:01 GMT
#1054
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 23 2019 20:02 GMT
#1055
********efinitely shouldn't no lynch wow I CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT
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