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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 19:05 GMT
#1034
Either way, I'm assuming the cop has not checked FF or vivax. If we no lynch and it's 1kp and say, for instance, I hard claim VT no take backs then mafia either shoots me and the cop knows their sanity and has 3 checks and should be able to completely solve the game tomorrow.

Or, mafia have a 1/3 shot tomorrow (shooting not me) to kill the cop. If they kill the cop then the cop will have announced 2 checks tonight before the deadline that should pretty much solve the game tomorrow since it will be 2 checks and 5 people (2 of which are mafia).

If the cop lives they have 3!!! checks and are wayyyyyyyy more likely to solve the game using myself as a VT as a baseline for their sanity.

You can take this post as a VT claim from me because I am almost certain mafia will need to have a fake claim battle end game and I would never ever leave that option closed if I was mafia so take this post as a town seal that I am VT.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 19:19 GMT
#1039
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


This is directly anti town. You may as well claim mafia at this point.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 19:25 GMT
#1042
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


It is exactly the same if we lynch mafia today. It's still mylo tomorrow. But then there's far more risk being wrong today.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 19:41 GMT
#1044
Uh huuuh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:19 GMT
#1058
On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.


What the fuck is this a bastard game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:20 GMT
#1060
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town
. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


This guy is 1000% mafia and slipped.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:22 GMT
#1063
There is literally nothing in the thread that says mafia gets 2 kills, nothing ANYWHERE that says that. Jock only got clarification after this post that there were 2 kills. Only squishy didn't understand the maths because he knew about 2 kills.

Squishy slipped and is confirmed mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:24 GMT
#1064
##unvote
##vote squishy


Nothing will convince me otherwise.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:25 GMT
#1066
On August 24 2019 05:24 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
There is literally nothing in the thread that says mafia gets 2 kills, nothing ANYWHERE that says that. Jock only got clarification after this post that there were 2 kills. Only squishy didn't understand the maths because he knew about 2 kills.

Squishy slipped and is confirmed mafia.


You're mistaken. I am seriously oblivious right now


You hate to see it happen. Very unfortunate.

Mind explaining to the class how you said there were 2 night kills when it's stated absolutely nowhere?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:28 GMT
#1069
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.



Nope nope nope. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Your post came before Jock's

Unlucky.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:29 GMT
#1071
Or we correct lynch and mafia get 1 lynch? Nobody says that unless they are mafia and know that's the mechanic. Will never unvote squishy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:29 GMT
#1073
On August 24 2019 05:29 reps)squishy wrote:
HF you are imagining me saying "Wait you guys don't know this"

What I am saying "Why do you only know this"


YOUR POST CAME BEFORE JOCK'S
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:30 GMT
#1074
Lalalalalalalalalalala squishy is mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:34 GMT
#1076
On August 24 2019 05:31 Chezinu wrote:
I first read squishy's post as 1 day kill (lynch) and 1 night kill = 2 kills for mafia.


You are wrong and probably mafia with him. If you read his post you cannot possibly think he means that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:34 GMT
#1077
Because today is mylo and there are no town lynch + nk because that's a loss.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:38 GMT
#1081
On August 24 2019 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.



Nope nope nope. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Your post came before Jock's

Unlucky.


I was trying to comprehend what no lynch would do. And why no lynch would be a good thing? If we no lynch they get two town kills yes?

Now mafia gets two town kills regardless? After Jock's pm


How do mafia get 2 town kills if we no lynch? On what planet is that correct unless you know mafia gets 2 kills?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:46 GMT
#1085
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 20:59 GMT
#1089
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:07 GMT
#1093
On August 24 2019 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?


Where did I defend him? That was an assumption you made and decided to tell everyone that. Rayn at least knew I literally divided the player list in half and placed numbers to troll people. But people want to believe I was serious about that. I didn't even reorder the list. It's the same list as in the OP.


The part where you took his post and coloured everything to make sense from a town perspective or a perspective where the guy doesn't know mafia get 2nk.

This looks really reallllyyyy bad for you now that he just admitted he thought it was 2nk because of my post. I'm half tempted to believe his vt claim and lynch you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 21:09 GMT
#1094
Can a host please clarify in thread this 2kp thing?
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