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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 17:56 GMT
#995
Who is your new mafia team concoction squishy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:01 GMT
#999
On August 24 2019 02:56 CopCake wrote:
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On August 24 2019 02:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 02:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its so annoying trying to get everyone organized when no-one's ever here
We should have at least 3 people on a wagon already.


I am here.
I decided it could be HF just by the way he just jumped on rayn’s case against Ewya, I dont want to believe that the rage post comes from mafia rayn. I said it before, the only times I have seen him rage like that he has been town.



Interesting. I was looking at the people who got on eywa's wagon early in the day and never moved. HF is one of those. Chezinu and FF both were at least willing to vote squishy and get the wagon off eywa (who is a great kill for mafia night 2 because his monotonous accusing style gets stronger as the game goes on).

Now he's trying to get me to go back to squishy as well which I don't think is smart actually. Squishy's never mafia killing FF when he spent a whole day setting up the 'jock and FF are communicating' thing as his main read.


Has HF and Chezinu ever ever interacted?

Also dont come with that HF that you were first, FF called you out with the whole “that is something I can see HF doing to his scummate” and about the whole Rayn “he has raged as mafia” I am talking from MY experience and why didnt you brought that earlier? You even said “I hope you are town because if not I will lose respect”?


No, that's not true. I have interacted with Chezinu once because he was sad I hadn't said anything to him. I thought that was quite a townie thing for him to do. It turns out it might have just been to get me to soften up to him.

The FF thing calling me out is absolutely fabricated by the way. FF quoted a post where I said "Glad to be on the same team, Rayn" because at the time I posted that Rayn had ECHOED MY THOUGHTS. Why would I post that sentence towards Rayn unless he shared the same sentiment as I had already expressed. You can even check the timestamps:


On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax

On August 19 2019 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 19 2019 01:14 CopCake wrote:
I know, I know.

HF do you wanna talk to me?

Can you give a read on me?


You're in my town list. I liked something you did but can't remember what it was. Something about arguing with jock and having some reasoning for what you posted or something. I dunno.

Feel free to ask me any questions but I'll probably end up lynching warder or eywa.

On August 20 2019 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
I mean Eywa's probably mafia so that's something?

On August 20 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax



I mean fuck me, if saying Vivax doesn't play as town and giving one scenario that you only do as town is effort then this site really has become minimal af. This is a pointless conversation. Rayn scum read ME and I don't even know if he does anymore, the point was his scum read was a lie. I'm just going to blanket call him town for his emo post though and continue on with my day.

That leaves Chezinu, FF, Eywa, Squishy.

I'm adding Vivax back because he has also done nothing after the lynch other than say he'll see what I say or something boring. Not putting in any more work than necessary. Is he town? Probably. Does that matter? No.


On August 20 2019 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 27 2019 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2019 18:37 Pandain wrote:
ok sure but im angry so i dont think rational.

also to be frank no one on the slam lynch can take credit for it because it was deliberately a "i have no idea what to do so lynch someone afk"


This isn't true. I went for the most amiable lynch in a pool of people that were scum reads. Narrowing down town reads and lynching into a pool isn't just rng and hope, it increases the odds of hitting mafia by a lot. Everyone was looking at least a bit townie.

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On July 04 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think Pandain and eywa are town for what it's worth. I wouldn't clear rayn because his logic doesn't really hold up but I don't want to get in a shit fight about it so I'll ignore it and see how it goes. I got the feeling jock was overzealous townie that thought he had something on me and that looked good but he's pushed it a smidge too far for my liking so I'm downgrading him.

Conversion/grack/es/rayn/trfl/jock

It's a big list but I really haven't given a shit about the game until now so I'll narrow it down when I'm home.


In fact the last two FF games that you were in both times I say the exact same or similar things. Rayn is also a really out of left field read for you to make and I'm at least 50% sure you're trying to make me argue with him more by fueling a scum read on him.

I think I'd probably vote you tomorrow over all the afkers even.

On August 20 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 20 2019 07:05 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.



Mistake, read the bolded part as if you were changing your opinion.

And now let me ask: who would you lynch rn? From your list.



Eywa.

On August 21 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


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On August 21 2019 04:00 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm officially not giving copcake credit for the dumbtell

This is fair, but I think there are too many things going against scum!copcake

I think Rayn calling him town, the dumbtell along with a few other posts make copcake more likely to flip town than scum.


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On August 21 2019 00:25 Eywa- wrote:
vote: Rayn


Can't even keep a story straight. Glad to be on your team Rayn.


Rayn's post is 12 hours after my last post saying to lynch Eywa even!
THIS POST IS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO YOU EVEN.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:02 GMT
#1000
So, no, Copcake, none of what you say is true.

Why are you fabricating events to push forward a lynch on me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:05 GMT
#1002
And I blanket called Rayn town because it's a fucking dick move under no pressure to emo QQ that he hates this website because of people pushing him and other people not playing. He was rude as fuck to people that keep this site alive. I will still blindly call him town if we have to lynch him and he flips mafia too because I will have absolutely no respect for him if he had to resort to some emotional post insulting people instead of playing mafia and trying to counter points (VALID POINTS) against him.

He made a fabricated case on me N1 and his post literally got me to stop pushing him because of that appeal. You should go re-read that interaction again because it would have ended up with him being lynched the next day at that rate.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:06 GMT
#1005
Chezinu is the probably the ideal lynch today because he has done shit all and has no investment in anything. He arbitrarily does thing based on if someone is female or not and probably tried to pocket people.

I'm not even sure who he scum reads. Cop and squishy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:08 GMT
#1007
On August 24 2019 03:05 CopCake wrote:
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On August 21 2019 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 21 2019 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
I definitely see the value in scum!jock pocketing these players though.


You are not exactly a town read of mine but let’s play a game.

In a world in which jock is mafia, who are his mates?

Rayn or HF. HF making the most sense.


On August 21 2019 04:00 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm officially not giving copcake credit for the dumbtell

This is fair, but I think there are too many things going against scum!copcake

I think Rayn calling him town, the dumbtell along with a few other posts make copcake more likely to flip town than scum.


On August 21 2019 00:25 Eywa- wrote:
vote: Rayn


Can't even keep a story straight. Glad to be on your team Rayn.


Call this tinfoil or whatever but this is definitely the kind of post HF would make against his partner


I am the biggest liar and making shit up 🤥



Perhaps actually READING my post would clear up this situation for you.

You have accused me of lying about scum reading Eywa first. I am telling you that is absolutely false. The post you had cited as reason this is false is that FF said this is something I'd do as mafia.

Can you honestly say I didn't call Eywa mafia first after reading literally every post I quoted just one page ago or what?


The FF thing calling me out is absolutely fabricated by the way. FF quoted a post where I said "Glad to be on the same team, Rayn" because at the time I posted that Rayn had ECHOED MY THOUGHTS. Why would I post that sentence towards Rayn unless he shared the same sentiment as I had already expressed. You can even check the timestamps:
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:14 GMT
#1009
On August 24 2019 03:08 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
And I blanket called Rayn town because it's a fucking dick move under no pressure to emo QQ that he hates this website because of people pushing him and other people not playing. He was rude as fuck to people that keep this site alive. I will still blindly call him town if we have to lynch him and he flips mafia too because I will have absolutely no respect for him if he had to resort to some emotional post insulting people instead of playing mafia and trying to counter points (VALID POINTS) against him.

He made a fabricated case on me N1 and his post literally got me to stop pushing him because of that appeal. You should go re-read that interaction again because it would have ended up with him being lynched the next day at that rate.


Yeah it would be a dick move (very big one) which is why I doubt it is a lie.

Care to quote me games when he has been mafia and done the same?


No, not really, I can't remember which game it was and I just spent an inordinate amount of time trying to search for it lol. I used terms like "rayn rage", "site" by raynpelikoneet, "fuck" by raynpelikoneet and there were far too many search results to go through.

I am almost positive he has though, this is not a lie and I would not lie about something so easily provable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:14 GMT
#1010
On August 24 2019 03:09 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
Chezinu is the probably the ideal lynch today because he has done shit all and has no investment in anything. He arbitrarily does thing based on if someone is female or not and probably tried to pocket people.

I'm not even sure who he scum reads. Cop and squishy?


I would lynch chezinu with you.



But then who is the other mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:34 GMT
#1016
I don't know if I want to make a case against you, I'm just saying that your post about FF and myself is extremely wrong and it's pretty opportunistic for you to make that in lylo(?) after having called me town the entirety of the game. ESPECIALLY when the only team that makes sense to you is:

HF/Chezinu

Because you have arbitrarily said everyone else is town already and somehow contradicted yourself on me. It seems like you realised you've town read everyone in the game and had to make a reason up to scum read someone.

Now that the FF post is clearly just you misreading, what reason is there for you to turn your read on me around now?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:39 GMT
#1018
By the way, I think there's another blue in this game and that CAN explain why rayn or myself is not dead also. I can't find any setup that slam has linked that has a potential insane cop in it though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:44 GMT
#1020
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:45 GMT
#1021
On August 24 2019 03:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2019 01:25 Alakaslam wrote:
9 player setup suggestions:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Even-Odd_Killers
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Alternating_9P
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C-C9
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9_+_2
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=CD9*
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=SS9

Now taking other suggestions!

We might wait for more signups but let’s start discussing the nines


C-C9 has the possibility of insane cop.
I remember commenting that that was my favourite setup at the time.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2019 01:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
I like C-C9 personally but I'm happy with any of those to be honest



lol great so we have probably one other cop in a mylo and no way of knowing if their checks are sane or insane :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:46 GMT
#1022
wait is it even mylo or lylo?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:47 GMT
#1023
It's mylo, cool. No lynch always a possibility then.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:48 GMT
#1024
If you have any doubts about my alignment you can feel free to vote a no lynch because I'll likely be shot. If I'm not shot then at least it gets rid of one of you guys for me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:50 GMT
#1025
By the way if there is another cop and they have checked me and returned me as mafia, no lynching is great for you too. If you have me as mafia and someone else as town at least you have the confirmed mafia to lynch the next cycle.

I think that setup looks really unfair for mafia tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:54 GMT
#1026
I think it might be able to be broken if we no lynch even.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:54 GMT
#1028
Unless the cop checked one of FF or Vivax which would have been bad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:55 GMT
#1030
On August 24 2019 03:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
If you have any doubts about my alignment you can feel free to vote a no lynch because I'll likely be shot. If I'm not shot then at least it gets rid of one of you guys for me.


I don't think we're more likely to be able to get 2 mafia in a row with you gone than we are to get 1/2 mafia with a lynch today.


One less question mark for people to lynch between is way better. No lynch is always the way to go if absolutely anybody in the game is unsure of my alignment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 23 2019 18:59 GMT
#1033
If mafia get 2nk n3 without it being announced in the game when there is only information that 2 goons are present and nothing more then I will be VERY VERY UNHAPPY.
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