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On August 21 2019 02:56 reps)squishy wrote:
My reads so far
Jockmcplop -I’m mafia in his eyes. He makes a case for me based on coincidence.
Holyflare -Quotes himself a lot. Null in my eyes
Eywa- -post more, don’t think mafia would lurk this hard
Chezinu - I don’t fucking understand.
FecalFeast -Willing to lynch without much info. Has a lot of one liners making small statements responding to quotes. Playing professional looking, probs because mod. Punches thrown are weak. In my eyes wanting to fly under radar which is scum like.
raynpelikoneet - Has three pages saying not much. Makes a big post not saying much. I don’t like it. Also claims to have done leg work.
CopCake - Defends and talks about me too much. Basically prevents progress of discussion my focus of me. Would be less weird if she was trying to lynch me with the amount of focus she has.
My scum right now is actually ff and cop
Like can we marvel at how bad this unwanted reads list that doesn't say anything at all is?
FF and Cake are his top scumreads. All of a sudden. He has barely interacted with either of em or mentioned them at all for the entire game and they are now his top scumreads.
Seriously what the fuck is this?
And only on the last page he accused me of laziness when he has literally decided not to bother trying to figure shit out and just made a bunch of stuff up on the spot to look like he's playing.
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On August 21 2019 13:50 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 13:41 Chezinu wrote:On August 19 2019 13:52 reps)squishy wrote:
Chezinu's posts have zero substance. Lynching a lurker is ok, but I really don't think he'll turn out to be mafia.
WARDER is getting auto-killed from not posting. What is the point of voting for him?
I think it's weird that Vivax dropped the vote on me. Follow through with the shots you take! Don't try to vote me because I looked juicy and people didn't jump on board so you go for someone who has not made a single post.
Copcake yo I don't need your protection. But I am suspicious of people who are on my case. Chezinu Rule? It was pretty late in game... need to skim posts before this to see if anyone excused me before this. some veterans suggested lynching me first. So, Chezinu rule doesn't really apply... oh wait.. he didn't accuse me. FF must be rubbing off. I cannot read. Too late at night maybe? yeah... I was skimming the thread... saw zero substance and assumed he was coming after me. However, why is he so confident that CHEZINU of all players is unlikely mafia??!?!?? Based on this post from squishy perspective.. it seems to indicate Squishy + CopCake are teammates. I wonder why...
This squishy post is a perfect example of what I've been talking about.
He has no idea how to read you Chez, no-one does, yet he says you're unlikely to be mafia.
Why?
Because he feels like he needs to give a read, not because there's any logic behind it all.
His entire reads list is like that.
Anyway enough about squishy for today.
I'm happy with an eywa kill I reckon we've got good chance of of him flipping red. Plus rayn deserves his lynch to be pushed after that massive case. For some reason I find it irresistable when people go to basic effort like inserting a picture into their post. Easily manipulated probably.
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OMG THERE WAS AN OVER AND HOUR BETWEEN ME VOTING AND ME COMMENTING WHAT COULD THAT MEAN??? 4 MINUTES LAST TIME, OVER AN HOUR THIS TIME!!! THAT MEANS I'M AT LEAST 15 TIMES MORE MAFIA NOW THAN I WAS THEN.
And eywa said cases are scummy. I just cased myself motherfuckers. Stick that in your vote and lynch it.
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On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote:
Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff.
I'm going back and honestly I think I might have been reading him from the wrong POV.
I still don't like his start of day 2.
There seems to be many people he's comfortable saying they are probably not mafia and I was looking at it from the point of view of him trying to get reads out where he hadn't thought about it but maybe he's not doing that and he just has loads of people as null.
Like I try to confirm people as town, maybe squishy doesn't and that's what's making me think he's mafia.
I'm worried about cognitive bias here because everything I'm reading of his jumps out at me as mafia but I dunno man.
Maybe I'll go back and see what's there from a TMI point of view instead. I'm still keeping him as a scumread for now, just for his overall lack of contributions (also I still dislike that list post + day 2 start) but I'm not entirely convinced by my own case on him tbh.
The thing with chezinu (#406) probably not being mafia at a point where he had only posted irrelevant nonsense is weird to me. Chezinu could objectively have been any alignment. The only way you could say probably not mafia is that only 2/10 people are mafia so its the same probably not as everyone else if you don't have any town reads.
SQUISHY:
I'd like to know if you have any solid town reads at this point. Your list post doesn't have any in it at all.
Also could you respond to the point about your chezinu read because that's really weird why you would say probably not mafia when he's chezinu. How could you know (or even have any clue at all) whether or not he's mafia at that point?
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On August 21 2019 21:22 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2019 21:14 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 21 2019 18:21 Holyflare wrote:
Think squishy is mafia too. Too much tmi stuff. I'm going back and honestly I think I might have been reading him from the wrong POV. I still don't like his start of day 2. There seems to be many people he's comfortable saying they are probably not mafia and I was looking at it from the point of view of him trying to get reads out where he hadn't thought about it but maybe he's not doing that and he just has loads of people as null. Like I try to confirm people as town, maybe squishy doesn't and that's what's making me think he's mafia. I'm worried about cognitive bias here because everything I'm reading of his jumps out at me as mafia but I dunno man. Maybe I'll go back and see what's there from a TMI point of view instead. I'm still keeping him as a scumread for now, just for his overall lack of contributions (also I still dislike that list post + day 2 start) but I'm not entirely convinced by my own case on him tbh. The thing with chezinu (#406) probably not being mafia at a point where he had only posted irrelevant nonsense is weird to me. Chezinu could objectively have been any alignment. The only way you could say probably not mafia is that only 2/10 people are mafia so its the same probably not as everyone else if you don't have any town reads.
SQUISHY:I'd like to know if you have any solid town reads at this point. Your list post doesn't have any in it at all. Also could you respond to the point about your chezinu read because that's really weird why you would say probably not mafia when he's chezinu. How could you know (or even have any clue at all) whether or not he's mafia at that point? I don't like your thought process, it seems like you're indirectly justifying your read in this one with the option to later withdraw on a town flip. Is it as simple as 2 of HF, Rayn and Jock?
What would the point in doing that be if i was mafia?
It barely makes sense.
Its like you're trying to prove rayn's case on you true.
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Eywa I could easily have responded to you like I responded to FF the whole time yesterday but in previous games all anyone has got out of you is "I don't talk to scum" or "yeah your scum" so I didn't see the point.
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On August 22 2019 04:56 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2019 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2019 17:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2019 14:14 reps)squishy wrote:On August 21 2019 13:54 Chezinu wrote:On August 21 2019 13:46 reps)squishy wrote:On August 21 2019 13:44 reps)squishy wrote:On August 21 2019 13:36 Chezinu wrote:
I just read FF's filter.
Conclusion:
1. He is reading the game and following along.
2. He claims that he cannot read many times.
3. He speaks clearly but is not rigid like HF. I like to point fingers. I am paranoid. FF seems comfortable being oblivious, or may know more than us touché touché It's like when you seem to know that I am town... I had you at null. I have not comprehended what you have said until the last 2 pages. You seem aight when you make sense. Can you explain what in the last pages makes sense or rather, what is good in a townie way in what Chezinu posted the last couple of pages? Do you still think mafia is jock and ff are mafia? if yes, what is wrong in cases against eywa since for damn sure there should be something wrong for you in them if eywa is not mafia. For Chez these posts were not bad, I could understand them thus "make sense." + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2019 12:50 Chezinu wrote:
Anyways, what do you think about Holyflare? Is his rigid logical style too harsh? Would he play this as mafia to hide his emotions? On August 21 2019 13:19 Chezinu wrote:
1. J O C K M C P L O P
2. H O L Y F L A R E
3. E Y W A -
4. W A R D E R
5. V I V A X
6. CC H E Z I N U
7. F E C A L F E A S T
8. R A Y N P E L I K O N E E T
9. C O P C A K E
1 0 . R E P S ) S Q U I S H Y
1 of 3 mafia
1. J O C K M C P L O P
2. H O L Y F L A R E
3. E Y W A -
1 of 4 mafia
7. F E C A L F E A S T
8. R A Y N P E L I K O N E E T
9. C O P C A K E
1 0 . R E P S ) S Q U I S H Y Jock and FF are my leads. FF is still my vote. Eywa with the votes on him is just getting flustered, still forming my opinion we have hours still to go
Why don't you seem to care that no-one else is voting for the people you think are scum?
Why does everything you say seem like its made up on the spot?
fuck it
##unvote
##vote squishy
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On August 22 2019 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa the only person other than you that I would vote would be squishy. You down for shenanigans?
Do it.
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Why isn't squishy pushing his favourite lynches in the thread?
He has a clear idea of who he currently thinks is mafia but just doesn't want to draw attention to himself so he's happy with things as they are, with him voting off wagon and everyone else on eywa who hes undecided about.
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On August 22 2019 06:46 CopCake wrote:
You dont change votes just like if it was underwear.
The case was done, makes sense, look at the reactions of Ewya.
Why do you want to change it?
Every time squishy posts it screams mafia at me and I gave him another chance but its just more scummy bullshit from him. Its really obvious.
I'm putting my vote right now where I think I have the best chance to hit scum.
You're honestly telling me eywa's reactions are more mafia than squishy's?
If eywa's mafia he at least knows how to fake being town sometimes.
Squishy's entire game plan here is mafia. He completely changed his read on you cake from mafia to town because you came and defended his post history which was mentioning you roughly once in a 2 page filter before you suddenly becoming one of his biggest scumreads when he wanted to make a list post.
Then two people vote for him and WOW he has a reason to townread you now and coincidentally the people he most thinks are scum are the people who voted for him. Not that he gives a shit at all whether anyone else thinks they're scum because he's just trying to survive.
How does anything that squishy has done so far help town?
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On August 22 2019 07:03 CopCake wrote:
Either way, just focus on what is good for town and that is to lynch Ewya, if you want to find the other scum, good! Because that is what we should be doing but Ewya has to die.
Just saying its good for town doesn't necessarily make it so. In my eyes its good for town to kill mafia right now. Voting for mafia is therefore good for town.
I actually like eywa's reaction to being lynched. The focus on rayn, hf and myself is the townie thing to do given that he thinks we are scum and the way he mentions comparing reads at the end of the game also is the kind of thing town eywa would say.
Mafia eywa was more focused on everyone else being bad instead of thinking his reads were better than everyone elses. These are only little things but they are in eywa's favour compared to branch who imo has no redeeming features. I also think eywa was going inevitably going to die this game because his mafia and town games are so similar and he won as mafia in the last game. That doesn't make him more likely to be scum.
Also it kinda feels like everyone's just lynching with the biggest grandest case in the thread instead of looking at people objectively. There's nothing bad for town in re-evaluating that and if no-one provides a reasonable alternative vote we are just going to sleepwalk to whoever was the biggest wagon the whole time.
This happened a bunch of times in the last game on here, everyone just got on a wagon and stayed there and honestly I think in that game almost everyone on the lynch was doubting it by the end of each day but didn't want to offend town by changing so we ended up with mislynch after mislynch.
I'm asking everyone to re-evaluate. Don't just vote for eywa because there's a big shiny case with a picture. If people look at it again and decide eywa is a better lynch, so be it. Squishy is a better lynch imo. Lynch the most likely scum.
ALSO COPCAKE:
Your point about paranoid town makes zero sense because the second time you defended him he changed his read on you from scum to hard town so he isn't even playing the game by his own rules in that case.
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**I'm sorry I called squishy branch in that last post I have no idea why. I might have done it before too for some reason I keep mixing them up.
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On August 22 2019 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
You are dumb if you think Eywa is town. Flat out stupid.
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On August 22 2019 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
There is a case from Rayn on Eywa that has a timeline inconsitency that has NOT been answered at all by Eywa and he skirts around it repeatedly. He only has been doing this thing now because his previous plan was failing and even still 0 of what he says was content!
Squishy is probably the other mafia sure but Eywa is mafia and you should be lynching him. If nothing more to get rayn to play and post content?
Eywa isn't in my town pile although i do like his response to being lynched. You're right that he had no response to rayn's case.
Maybe you're right and its just his plan after being caught as scum. I dunno. I feel it with squishy though. tbf you asked eywa to shenanigan onto squishy and he decided not to. I think you should and so should he, but eywa doesn't believe that squishy is mafia and isn't doing that.
That's interesting in itself save for the possibility that they are both mafia which they could be i guess.
I'm sorry I'm not sure I understand how voting eywa gets rayn back. From what I remember of his angry post it looked like it was you he was angry at as much as eywa. Or was it just people thinking he was scum again that made him angry? Its hard to tell with rayn. But I don't think we should be lynching anyone who calls him scum just to get him to play. That's not playing mafia, as rayn would say.
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On August 22 2019 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wtf jock?
Hi.
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On August 22 2019 18:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you look like mafia for that vote change.
You'd rather I just put my vote on the easiest lynch and leave it there like everyone else regardless of what eywa was saying in the thread?
I explained myself so if the vote itself looks mafia to you there's literally nothing I can do about that now.
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On August 22 2019 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You write stuff like "dont lynch eywa just because there is a shiny case on him with pictures" and shit. did you even read the case? WHY would you lynch a person IF NOT because there is a CASE on them?????????????
Also seriously, you of all the people should understand my case and respect it. Like this is literally what eywa did with both you and me:
During night 1: "I think jock is mafia (because of his D1 play)".
"why is jock mafia"
"Jock is mafia because of something he did during D2"
Like why would a townie EVER EVER EVER post something like that??? You should never assume that kind of thought process comes from a townie in case you are town, because it never should come from town. If you're making a case or telling why someone is mafia you don't only post half of the reasons why you think they are mafia, you post all the reasons why you think they are mafia, unless ofc you are mafia and have just decided on who to call mafia and THEN start finding out those reasons and just fuck up because you can't make up anything from before.
Like, especially for you, your defense on Eywa makes no fucking sense at all.
My defense of eywa wasn't based on your case not being good, or even a real defense of eywa at all, I said there were little things in his favour compared to squishy.
I honestly still thought eywa would probably flip red but squishy is my lynch target because he is scum 100% and although it was interesting to see everyone jump on the eywa wagon with zero resistance I wanted to see if people would also do that with squishy if I gave them the choice to.
I was trying to lynch scum
I was also trying to gain information by seeing who was willing to put their votes on different people, but it didn't really work because everyone just left their vote with eywa.
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MY CONCLUSIONS WERE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR CASE RAYN
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It was about the way eywa reacted to being a certain lynch. It was how his focus was on the next day and what happens when he is dead. Sure, that's fakeable as mafia which is why i wasn't townreading him, but it definitely looked better than squishy WHO CAN I REMIND YOU STILL HASN'T DONE ANYTHING PRO-TOWN IN THE WHOLE GAME and is just trying to survive.
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