V A P O R W A V E mafia - Page 5

On August 22 2019 03:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Something I've noticed is that if you call people bad and don't use logic to back up your reads it always makes them LESS likely to lynch you


Oh wait nvm

On August 22 2019 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Well all I can say is that if you do flip town you played a bad game, it happens.

But I don't think you will.

On August 22 2019 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa the only person other than you that I would vote would be squishy. You down for shenanigans?

On August 22 2019 04:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Really though if rayn posted that big woe is me rant as scum I'll be sad

On August 22 2019 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
So ridiculously dumb you think a mafia team has rayn on it but squishy isn't mafia because vivax died and he was calling him scum :D

Not like rayn would take control and kill vivax or anything hahahahaha

On August 22 2019 04:35 Fecalfeast wrote:

AtE?

On August 22 2019 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
There is a case from Rayn on Eywa that has a timeline inconsitency that has NOT been answered at all by Eywa and he skirts around it repeatedly. He only has been doing this thing now because his previous plan was failing and even still 0 of what he says was content!

Squishy is probably the other mafia sure but Eywa is mafia and you should be lynching him. If nothing more to get rayn to play and post content?

On August 22 2019 07:45 CopCake wrote:


Dude, he told you that he liked I didn't got angry when he pointed the gun at me because yes is true that I defended him but I had good intentions.

Mafia would had gotten mad and offended.

On August 22 2019 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
You are dumb if you think Eywa is town. Flat out stupid.

On August 22 2019 07:47 Jockmcplop wrote:

Eywa isn't in my town pile although i do like his response to being lynched. You're right that he had no response to rayn's case.
Maybe you're right and its just his plan after being caught as scum. I dunno. I feel it with squishy though. tbf you asked eywa to shenanigan onto squishy and he decided not to. I think you should and so should he, but eywa doesn't believe that squishy is mafia and isn't doing that.
That's interesting in itself save for the possibility that they are both mafia which they could be i guess.

I'm sorry I'm not sure I understand how voting eywa gets rayn back. From what I remember of his angry post it looked like it was you he was angry at as much as eywa. Or was it just people thinking he was scum again that made him angry? Its hard to tell with rayn. But I don't think we should be lynching anyone who calls him scum just to get him to play. That's not playing mafia, as rayn would say.

On August 21 2019 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So yeah i actually am not just pissed off but have reasoning on why Eywa is mafia. Let's start with these quotes from past two games. Last game, after the game (so there is no reason to lie about anything) Eywa said this:

Now i don't know what the last sentence says, i guess it is trying to say kill me N2 as mafia (as Eywa was mafia), otherwise the whole paragraph doesn't even make any sense.

This is from the game before, Eywa was town in that game so once again there is no reason for him to lie about what he says here. The bolded parts are important (read the whole chain of quotes):

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Now to this game, here are Eywa's first two posts:


First thing to note here is that in the first post Eywa doesn't post scumreads but instead says he needs to read filters to confirm. Second post says he 100% agrees with Vivax that i am mafia (i don't accept answer "or on sedatives" because after that he starts gunning on me but more on that later). The problem here is that either Eywa read my filter in one minute since that's the difference in times between those posts or that read is bs because if he already had a scumread on me i can't see any reason why the scumread on me isn't in the first post, who cares about town reads when you have a clear scumread? Another thing here (especially regarding the quotes from past games) is that (1) based on how he views my play regarding past games he should NOT have a scumread on me (especially based on the reasoning later on) and (2) in this game, based on what he has posted in his first post and later on we actually agree with pretty much on everything!!!! I also have FF and Cake as town, I also have Vivax town (those are his town reads), i also at least had HF as mafia at this point (which is Eywa's next scumread), so why am i scum again?? Because Eywa -- as per his words -- "tends to scumread me in every game because he finds it very difficult to come to mutual ground with you on pretty much everything"?

Then let's go onto his reasoning of why i am mafia:

I hate his playstyle except for the last game where he actually provided very good reasoning on my mafia partner and also on other people, something that is definitely not happening here. There is nothing scummy in calling his play here on this game bad because it is bad for a townie.

I don't care if it's bad or not but almost every game i get pissed at something and thats what happens. That's not an AtE post even, that's a fuck you post. There is nothing scummy in that.

And that's his scumread. See here is another thing that is funny. None of the things he called me mafia for happened before he called me mafia.

Here is his scumread on Holyflare:

I don't even know what this means or how this makes HF or anyone mafia in any situation without further explanation, which obviously never comes. Another funny fact just for shits and giggles:

Na-ah bro, by your (wrong) definition of omgus you're the one omgusing because HF called you mafia first so this omgus thing makes you mafia now right?


Here is his scumread on Jock:


So i don't really care what Eywa is actually trying to say Jock's scum motive is because i don't really understand the post in total but here's what i understand. The first post Eywa quoted from Jock is the post that triggers the scumread, without the first quoted post the second one (Jock made D1) isn't scummy because Eywa says "if he's just going to default [to something later on]". Sooo...

Sooo... The problem here once again is that Eywa scumreads Jock before Jock has made the post he scumreads Jock for.

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TLDR;

- Once again this picture fits. 2 out of 3 of Eywa's scumreads are based on stuff that happens AFTER they are his scumreads. Basically he is picking a target and then starts "finding reasons for why they are mafia". And that is a fucking mafia thing to do.

- Reasoning on me doesn't even make sense based on what he has said before and what has happened in this game reads wise, neither does one on Holyflare. Not gonna defend Jock for Jock because i don't really care to figure out why some weird pocketing theory and other shit would be the most possible answer.

So that's pretty much my 2c for today, i see again a lot of arguing between my townreads and last day phse i tried to engage and get the people who i think are town together but apparently that's same as doing nothing so you guys do whatever you do and i can go actually do nothing (or something else at least).

##vote Eywa-

Good night.

On August 22 2019 08:00 CopCake wrote:



You have a "semi case" against Rayn; your biggest scum read, and you don't even read what he writes about you?

Yeah my vote is ok where it is.

On August 22 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
If rayn is mafia and his case is so shit you waited 48 hours effectively doing crap all to wait till people go to bed to counter it. Good job.