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On August 19 2019 08:04 Chezinu wrote:
20% mafia
Mislynch then
25% mafia
Then
33% mafia
Then
50% mafia
Ugh, someone gotz to figure out rayn..
20% mafia (8 vs 2)
Mislynch + 1 nk
25% mafia (6 vs 2)
Mislynch + 1 nk
33% mafia (4 vs 2)
Mislynch + 2 nk
66% mafia (1 vs 2)
Well that changes that.
Perhaps I should assume jock is town because he made us filters.
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On August 24 2019 05:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
If hf is mafia and tried to use the no lynch to kill town i'm going to be absolutely furious.
Copcake, what do you think about HF?
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On August 24 2019 06:24 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:19 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 06:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ask you something chezinu do you really think squishy killed FF because he misread something you wrote? Jock, just as you pointed out many possibilities when trying to discern who the mafia are. I too myself think of possibilities. There was a possibly that you couldn't even dream of. You were confident (or so it seemed) that squishy could not be mafia because he would not kill FF. But what if squishy thought FF was blue? Would that change the story? I like to explore my options. When an option is ignored, I like to bring it up in the thread in a troll like fashion. But it seems like the players this game (except vivax and rayn) can't handle the matter in which I play this game. I guess i will have to speak plainly... I feel very very very very offended - shows tongue -
and except for Copcake as well (and probably some dead others).
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On August 24 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?
Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right? But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win. There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy. Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches. day lynch + night kill night kill + next night killIf we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing. day lynch + night kill Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill. back to only 1 night killI don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea. So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes. Or... He just slipped big time. Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.
HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?
Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.
What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia. Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing. Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong. Post asking who I'm mafia with. Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence. Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia. Posts that ask what people think of other people. Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation. Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts. Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list. Now I'm actually reading your posts: Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game... Show nested quote +
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu?
LOL
hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake.
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On August 24 2019 06:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 06:58 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?
Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right? But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win. There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy. Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches. day lynch + night kill night kill + next night killIf we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing. day lynch + night kill Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill. back to only 1 night killI don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea. So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes. Or... He just slipped big time. On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.
HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?
Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.
What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia. Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing. Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong. Post asking who I'm mafia with. Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence. Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia. Posts that ask what people think of other people. Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation. Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts. Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list. Now I'm actually reading your posts: On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...
Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.
You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu? LOL hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake. The whole premise of this game is to hunt inconsistencies and make people answer them. So, which is it? Is he misunderstanding you or does he understand you. What read do you have on rayn?
Both (he understood that the list was a troll, but he misunderstood what I was saying and that I was implying that you and rayn are mafia).
and I don't have a read on rayn
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On August 24 2019 07:06 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?
Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right? But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win. There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy. Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches. day lynch + night kill night kill + next night killIf we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing. day lynch + night kill Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill. back to only 1 night killI don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea. Look at timestamp FYI Holyflare. If I was mafia, I would have known about the 2 kp for night 3. I would have been quiet and let the no lynch happen. You are right. I was trying to reaction read you all by causing chaos in the thread. I haven't interacted much with rayn, so I don't know what he is.
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of course... what if the mafia themselves didn't know that there was 2 kp tonight?
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Hey guys, I tots not the cop!
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On August 24 2019 07:09 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 07:08 Chezinu wrote:
of course... what if the mafia themselves didn't know that there was 2 kp tonight? This is dumb the hosts should tell them.
Then I am totally town guys! LOL
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I think a Rayn lynch would be a nice way to end this.
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HF has now earned his townie badge!
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On August 24 2019 08:13 CopCake wrote:
Who else is here?
Pst. I'm over here!
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On August 24 2019 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It doesnt matter because we are lynching the dude who scumslipped.
Are you going to vote?
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On August 24 2019 08:19 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 08:16 Chezinu wrote:On August 24 2019 08:13 CopCake wrote:
Who else is here? Pst. I'm over here! Do you have popcorn? This will be good.
Unfortunately, I do not. I could create digital images of popcorn though.
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On August 24 2019 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
If you're going to claim cop just get it over with.
Hey HF! I'm just saying hey and I'm totally not a cop man. You can trust me.
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Well, we still have tomorrow!
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On August 25 2019 01:08 CopCake wrote:
well squishy hasnt been back and tbh as town you would be raging/getting mad/etc when the game is close to end and the frustation would make you get mad and say shit if you are up for a lynch.
Is this his first time as mafia tho? Because you dont make things like “hohoho i dont think ewya is mafia is ff or jock”, I mean I understand his pov because I found you and ff to have a lot of chemistry / coordinated.
The reason I think you are mostly town (98%, you could be a very very good mafia) is that you brought up the whole 2nk, I mean like hell I would have known that and it changed the game to make town work harder and actually pay attention. It fits with your personality that you take care of details (the whole I did filters for you guys).
Chezinu... Chezinu took action when squishy was getting fired but ughhhhh well the question is... lets say if your mafia buddy is getting lynched... shouldnt you act casually normal and follow? To blend in? When you are unreadable? It would put your game in danger.
HF, he is the one I am more paranoid of. I do think he has the ability to fool everyone while looking townie. I do like that he brought up the cop cases, the possible night actions, etc. But would he do that as mafia also? That is where is my mind and I am tinfoiling.
Rayn is mostly town because of his rage wall, I want to believe he wouldnt do that as AtE.
Now... you see people like Ewya, Vivax I think etc who called him out. I need to know by local players if you have misslynched rayn? Recently? Because if the answer is yes that would explain his frustation.
I don't think I have ever mislynched rayn.
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On August 25 2019 01:37 CopCake wrote:
Ok, before I go all mafia chezinu mode
Can you link where squishy explained his “this is why I knew mafia had two shots”?
ugh.. I didn't answer all these question because I was lazy... ok here we go...
HF has case on squishy about 2nk.
I like it so I voted squishy. I believed this was true. I posted trying to see the other side to point out how hard that would be. HF takes it as me defending squishy (I guess he didn't noticed I voted for him). At this point I got tired of people misunderstanding my posts and other dead townie posts as well. We had just lynched a townie because of contractions.
HF suspects me. I push back (this was also to help me get a read). Anyone who knows my meta (very few) would know that I am town this game. I hadn't heard from Rayn so I tried pressure voting him. Did not work. HF and I both claim to not know his alignment. I also had suspected HF of being the cop.
HF and squishy continue to talk. Squishy claims he got the 2 nk idea from HF who posted about it before hand (time stamps included). HF started getting townie vibes and then states that he thinks squishy was town. Then the mods post that there really was 2 nks on night 3 in the game. I had never played a game with that rule ever. I have played mafia for over a decade. I then looked in jock and copcake. Jock is either on top his game or he knew about the night kills as mafia. Copcake was confused about HF logic about night kills which made sense to me (not knowing about the 2 night kills day 3). Copcake voted no lynch and was pushing it.
A lot of information was gained in that time period.
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On August 25 2019 02:05 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2019 02:00 Chezinu wrote:On August 25 2019 01:08 CopCake wrote:
well squishy hasnt been back and tbh as town you would be raging/getting mad/etc when the game is close to end and the frustation would make you get mad and say shit if you are up for a lynch.
Is this his first time as mafia tho? Because you dont make things like “hohoho i dont think ewya is mafia is ff or jock”, I mean I understand his pov because I found you and ff to have a lot of chemistry / coordinated.
The reason I think you are mostly town (98%, you could be a very very good mafia) is that you brought up the whole 2nk, I mean like hell I would have known that and it changed the game to make town work harder and actually pay attention. It fits with your personality that you take care of details (the whole I did filters for you guys).
Chezinu... Chezinu took action when squishy was getting fired but ughhhhh well the question is... lets say if your mafia buddy is getting lynched... shouldnt you act casually normal and follow? To blend in? When you are unreadable? It would put your game in danger.
HF, he is the one I am more paranoid of. I do think he has the ability to fool everyone while looking townie. I do like that he brought up the cop cases, the possible night actions, etc. But would he do that as mafia also? That is where is my mind and I am tinfoiling.
Rayn is mostly town because of his rage wall, I want to believe he wouldnt do that as AtE.
Now... you see people like Ewya, Vivax I think etc who called him out. I need to know by local players if you have misslynched rayn? Recently? Because if the answer is yes that would explain his frustation.
I don't think I have ever mislynched rayn. Do you think rayn is playing like mafia this game? Think about his large qq thread and what not
he was first to post a large block of text (years ago that was known as a mafia tell -- I don't think that is still meta).
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