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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 14:05 GMT
#449
On August 19 2019 13:52 reps)squishy wrote:
Chezinu's posts have zero substance. Lynching a lurker is ok, but I really don't think he'll turn out to be mafia.

WARDER is getting auto-killed from not posting. What is the point of voting for him?

I think it's weird that Vivax dropped the vote on me. Follow through with the shots you take! Don't try to vote me because I looked juicy and people didn't jump on board so you go for someone who has not made a single post.


Copcake yo I don't need your protection. But I am suspicious of people who are on my case.



Nah it makes perfect sense. This is a game where either you have those who only ever listen to themselves apparently, yet don't make an effort to get a real lynch going or those who are flat out not playing or playing in a way that doesn't help anyone (Chez).

Since I try not to fall into that group this game, I settled for Warder.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 14:06 GMT
#450
On August 19 2019 23:01 Eywa- wrote:
Hey guys, my bad

WP on day 1, keeping with the cop kill strat. 😂

I'll catch up as it seems I haven't been mod killed yet.


You can be instantly town for this post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 16:33 GMT
#462
FF could be mafia actually.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 16:35 GMT
#465
His shitpost to serious - ratio is lower than usual.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 16:38 GMT
#467
On August 20 2019 01:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 01:35 Vivax wrote:
His shitpost to serious - ratio is lower than usual.



That's a mafia tell for FF?


I think so, from a scum game I played with him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 16:40 GMT
#469
Might just be him feeling like he has to look professional for the mod icon lol
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 16:51 GMT
#471
Is Chez scumreading Cop? Either way, I'd keep him around for now as long as he posts, at least there is some interpretation available.

What if Chez actually always tells the truth as both alignments, but disguises it as nonsense? :o

Cop + Chez tinfoil team?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 17:04 GMT
#473
On August 20 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote:
Cop x chez team up is bullshit

I liked your post about doubting FF but might I ask why?

@Vivax



Yea the cop x chez teamup wasn't a serious post.

On August 19 2019 13:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On August 19 2019 12:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:20 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:15 CopCake wrote:
Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?

Because HEY

Who is in your mafia list?

Cake who said that she would lynch you because your first post looked bad and your case on me was BAD and MISTAKEN, now because I am calling you out I am mafia?

Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.

Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.


Your mafia reads are LAZY.




Does my having lazy reads indicate an alignment?


It doesn't help the game, it is just a post trying to look useful when it isn't, you corrected your "case" on me and now you are attacking me for my "TONE" which is what?

What makes you think I am mafia?

Explain yourself.

Also looking at you Jock.

Your posts look as though you're trying to throw dirt on people rather than try to determine their alignment. You questioned jock for agreeing with something I said based on me being wrong on something ELSE that I said which is poisoning the well (I think I haven't brushed up on my fallacies lately) and contributes nothing to the determination of my alignment and does nothing to address what jock was actually saying.

Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?

Can you explain what you mean here? How do you know an inactive must be blue and where did I indicate that I thought that?


Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.

Using 'most of you' to discredit my read on him when I've not expressed interest in lynching an inactive is odd to me and reads like a defense of chezinu rather than an attack on my read.

Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.

This could be rephrased as "I disagree that quishy is scummy because: " instead of using your read on squishy as an attack on my unrelated read on squishy.



You are pushing an agenda rather than determining people's alignments.

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On August 19 2019 12:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:35 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
dislikes after skim/reading:

copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself

Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized

chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile

warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao

things I liked:

Vivax being active

jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game

camping was fun and I smell like a campfire



This, I can ask you the same thing, why are you so sure afks have blues?

And now I HAVE THIS JEWEL
On August 19 2019 12:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu is probably mafia too. He usually uses stuff to make something happen out of it, or like, there is some reason why he posts cryptic stuff he does, and i don't see anything but some posts that don't intend to do anything.

Total and complete agreement from me. This is why I didn't like his entire string of posts on the page where I returned to thread.



YOU EVIL MOD!

You always considered HF kinda mafia but your mafia were me, squishy and chezinu? really?

REALLYYYYY?

On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
dislikes after skim/reading:

copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself

Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized

chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile

warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao

things I liked:

Vivax being active

jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game

camping was fun and I smell like a campfire


He disagreed with HF but blames Squishy for doubting HF?

Agh

Not popular opinion but I am voting FF.


Point 1:
Saying that chezinu's logic is stupid does not mean that I believe the opposite. You asking how I'm 'so sure' there are blues in the AFKs is either a leading question or just bad reading comprehension. I said chez shouldn't be so sure there are NO blues in the AFKs not that I necessarily think there ARE blues in the AFKs.

Point 2:
Already established as false and no longer a jewel

Point 3:
I blamed squishy for not reading HF's post and assuming it was a negative one. This has nothing to do with HF and everything to do with squishy and his mindset reading people's posts.



Do you have any good reasons why I'm mafia?


Please review the posts I put the most effort into in a mafia game since like 2015, everyone.

Then vote copcake or tell me why she's being like this as town


This is the reason. Although I don't think I'm going to give it too much weight for now. It would be pretty unfair towards him if it's genuine effort.

Seems kind of convenient for you to like my reasoning though. FF is scumreading you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 22:48 GMT
#508
On August 20 2019 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So here is what happened at the start of the game.

People post some random shit. Vivax asks me if i am mafia. Vivax makes a couple of posts on FF where he is actually trying to do something and has some sort of a thought process (as in his "reaction test" or whatever shit that was on me). So well Vivax is already town here. There is no legwork to be done here because he should be read probably town here anyways. Jock's reasoning seems overexplained to me so i ask him about it. Jock doesn't freeze or give any bullshit answer -- just weird way of thinking things imo. Vivax seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. Cake seems to be thinking Jock is mafia. Jock seems to be thinking Cake is mafia. I hard-conter the "case" of Cake calling HF mafia comes from mafia because it doesn't make any sense. I dont really see any reasoning (other than Cake's on Jock later on) that could possibly be something else than mine. Jock doesn't actually call Cake anything until a bit later (when he agrees with HF's list), but inbetween there Cake doesn't really post anything regarding his argument earlier, and there are no other reasons presented for Cake being town other than mine, so why should i assume something else? Same goes with Vivax, i don't see why he'd change his mind unless it is for what i said (as we even discussed it).

So yeah, you can say i didn't do it all but i was part of all the discussion in the thread at the time and the conclusion HF comes to is that i "have posted nothing". If you want to fucking nitpick like he does then yeah, this is simply a lie because i was actually there posting and even if i hadn't posted ANYTHING of substance (which is not the case here) that's still i lie because i have pretty much 2 pages of filter from that time.

Also yeah, i didn't expicitly say where my townreads on Vivax and Jock come from but i didn't think i need to say that because those were pretty obvious reads to make and furthermore, if you have ever played with me and use any portion of your brain cells you can tell if i think someone is mafia or not purely based on how i answer to them and or / if i question tham and in which manner that happens. But apparently people don't use any brain anymore in these games.

This is most likely the last mafia game i will ever play. Game is not for me when there is a "tone scum read" on me based on some bullshit question, then there are some mafiascum scrubs playing who can't form a (gameplaywise) reasonable sentence other than "youre mafia because your role pm says you are mafia". At least HF actually tries to provide some reasoning behind his reads, but that's also bad because he's nitpicking every fucking word in people's posts and when someone else does that nobody ever cares -- he gets away with it as mafia and loses games as town, and that's bad. But noone cares. And almost all the rest of the people afk the shit out, dont post at all and dont vote. What's the point of the game?

Like i can discuss the game with squishy, ff, jock and cake but that's it. Others can go fuck themselves because that's not playing mafia. I havent done anything scummy in this game yet noone even seems to be having a reasonable read on me, Based on what i HAVE done (saying i havent done anything is just simply incorrect). I don't see a reason to discuss shit with anyone because even the players on the list above dont seem to be caring fuck about what i have to say.


What should I say dude? Last games I played I had at least one mafia pointed out by the time I got N1d and not just that, I tried to stop both you and Palmar from being mislynched, and by the way you decided to throw the game by not claiming mason. Both of those mafias made it to endgame.

It's also toxic AF for the game that it has become possible to lynch obvious townies or obviously shitty lynches. Have you seen Palmar since? In your case you decided consciously to get mislynched.

So I tend to flail about pretty quickly when I see that trend of cba/lazyness/being busy coming up in you and HF, who also "grew up" with much more active games. And you don't get not to apply self criticism in all of that.

No matter what you say, up until this post your game has seemed uninterested, like when you replied to me about my scumread, and then you post an anti-town rant post that is within the range of emotional investment I could see from town rayn. Except that town rayn would want to make sure his mafia reads get lynched, and not that everyone who doesn't townread him gets shat on.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 23:01 GMT
#512
Even if you are town and right on HF, rayn, you are not going to catch him this night with that argument by both doing your own metric of what legwork is.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 19 2019 23:50 GMT
#522
Btw don't assume I get NKd for my current reads this game. Too early for that and D1 has been crap information-wise.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 20 2019 00:26 GMT
#523
By the way from town rayn's game:

On July 23 2019 20:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tbh Koshi i will not let you play like you have past couple of games, i mean like "shitting on players" and making one-liners despite how good or bad they are. You are reasonably good player when youre town and you're gonna own it up here if you are town. I dont like your opening at all, because you have a huge ego and you saying you being lynched is okay doesn't sit well there, regardless of how busy you claim to be. I also don't like you calling both me and HF weird because regardless of what your conclusion of our argument is you should have one. Right now you don't have any, when in fact all the conclusions and thought processes of ours are in the thread, and that to me looks like you want to fuel the (useless and "solved") argument wothout taking any side on anything. It's at best shitty play.

I have a gut feeling that Slam is town and FF is mafia. I can't really go further into that in a reasonable way but that's how i feel. Especially towards FF i even myself think my argument is shitty but yeah, that's how i feel at the moment.

I don't think there is anything to be said about Tubesock and i also think HF makes a fair point on coag. I also consider HF town for like 95% sure and i don't think i am gonna change my opinion on that in this game based on how fucking convoluted his assumed "town!argument" of his early posting would be in case he was mafia. I will say though if you are mafia this game i am going to vote for you in every single further game when you even imply you didn't read even one word in the OP.


What he describes is what he's doing himself this game. Not throughout the entirety of his filter, but a significant part. Besides, his big post's good intentions also giving a lot of reads throughout it in his town game doesn't match his big post here.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 25 2019 10:45 GMT
#1478
On August 25 2019 19:34 Holyflare wrote:
Are you fucking serious copcake? Always counter claim. ALWAYS.


#riggedTLgames
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 25 2019 11:33 GMT
#1480
Jocks scum game has improved from his last scum game. He might have even won this after a rayn lynch. I really don't know how cop and HF couldn't read rayn if eywa can. Maybe we should elevate this strategy of threatening to stop playing to scum standard until it stops working.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 25 2019 11:39 GMT
#1482
On August 25 2019 20:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:33 Vivax wrote:
Jocks scum game has improved from his last scum game. He might have even won this after a rayn lynch. I really don't know how cop and HF couldn't read rayn if eywa can. Maybe we should elevate this strategy of threatening to stop playing to scum standard until it stops working.


It's hard to lynch an un ccd cop my dude.


He wouldn't have gotten that far without that bluff
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