On August 19 2019 12:15 CopCake wrote: Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?
Because HEY
Who is in your mafia list?
Cake who said that she would lynch you because your first post looked bad and your case on me was BAD and MISTAKEN, now because I am calling you out I am mafia?
Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.
Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.
Your mafia reads are LAZY.
Does my having lazy reads indicate an alignment?
It doesn't help the game, it is just a post trying to look useful when it isn't, you corrected your "case" on me and now you are attacking me for my "TONE" which is what?
What makes you think I am mafia?
Explain yourself.
Also looking at you Jock.
Copcake what are you asking me to explain?
Whose in my mafia list?
At the moment i'm happy lynching into:
WARDING Fefe Rayn Eywa- Chez
Of these I would prioritize WARDING and Eywa- because I mislynched the other three in the last game and would feel bad doing it twice in a row. Shit reasoning? Yeah but its day 1 so whatever.
Squishy and hf are null
Yourself and Vivax are most likely town.
I don't have any strong scum reads or cases yet.
Keep looking at me if you want. I'm being completely open about how I'm playing.
On August 19 2019 12:38 Jockmcplop wrote: Copcake what I was agreeing with Fefe about was:
That there is no way of knowing whether or not there are blues in the AFK pile and that makes Chez's logic bad.
It looks to me like you think that we're trying to suggest the opposite.
To me it looks like you agreed on him that there are blues in the AFK pile which I know that might be the case, which is why I don't vote afk unless it is really last resort thing.
Last game I played town ate each other and the afks were somewhere being happy.
No you are literally just wrong. Go back and re-read what Fefe originally wrote. He was saying that Chezinu's logic was bad because we literally have no way of knowing where the blues are at this point, right? At least that's how I read it.
He accuses me of something that you did (in the read, not the last post) but you are in his town read for being "active", has he changed his opinion of you?
Have to do with this:
To me it looks like you agreed on him that there are blues in the AFK pile which I know that might be the case, which is why I don't vote afk unless it is really last resort thing.
Why are you suddenly changing the subject when you're proven wrong and then saying you're going to go slow as if its me being dumb when nothing you are saying follows or makes sense at all?
Maybe instead of going slow, just explain yourself clearly in the first place and stop misreading everything.
Anyway to answer your question
Go read his "mafia reads" and "town reads"
He accuses me of something that you did (in the read, not the last post) but you are in his town read for being "active", has he changed his opinion of you?
I don't know, lets find out.
Fefe did you change your opinion of me?
Copcake if you're town, and i think you probably are, at some point we're probably going to have to work together in this game so I'd prefer it if you'd cut the bullshit to be honest.
On August 19 2019 12:15 CopCake wrote: Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?
Because HEY
Who is in your mafia list?
Cake who said that she would lynch you because your first post looked bad and your case on me was BAD and MISTAKEN, now because I am calling you out I am mafia?
Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.
Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.
Your mafia reads are LAZY.
Does my having lazy reads indicate an alignment?
It doesn't help the game, it is just a post trying to look useful when it isn't, you corrected your "case" on me and now you are attacking me for my "TONE" which is what?
What makes you think I am mafia?
Explain yourself.
Also looking at you Jock.
Your posts look as though you're trying to throw dirt on people rather than try to determine their alignment. You questioned jock for agreeing with something I said based on me being wrong on something ELSE that I said which is poisoning the well (I think I haven't brushed up on my fallacies lately) and contributes nothing to the determination of my alignment and does nothing to address what jock was actually saying.
Lol, I am actually the opposite, I don't want to lynch an inactive because "one must be blue" but hey you agree with that feeling, RIGHT?
Can you explain what you mean here? How do you know an inactive must be blue and where did I indicate that I thought that?
Chezinu who said let's lynch an inactive which is what it seems most of you want to do but he only gets called out for it.
Using 'most of you' to discredit my read on him when I've not expressed interest in lynching an inactive is odd to me and reads like a defense of chezinu rather than an attack on my read.
Squishy for what reasons? his interaction with HF? Squishy made a good point on viva with the OJ Simpson thing and just pointed out how the "veterans" are not interacting that much which I agree is super odd.
This could be rephrased as "I disagree that quishy is scummy because: " instead of using your read on squishy as an attack on my unrelated read on squishy.
You are pushing an agenda rather than determining people's alignments.
On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote: dislikes after skim/reading:
copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself
Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized
chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile
warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao
things I liked:
Vivax being active
jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game
camping was fun and I smell like a campfire
This, I can ask you the same thing, why are you so sure afks have blues?
And now I HAVE THIS JEWEL
On August 19 2019 12:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Chezinu is probably mafia too. He usually uses stuff to make something happen out of it, or like, there is some reason why he posts cryptic stuff he does, and i don't see anything but some posts that don't intend to do anything.
Total and complete agreement from me. This is why I didn't like his entire string of posts on the page where I returned to thread.
YOU EVIL MOD!
You always considered HF kinda mafia but your mafia were me, squishy and chezinu? really?
REALLYYYYY?
On August 19 2019 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote: dislikes after skim/reading:
copcake's read progression on squishy, copcakes's use of 'too scummy to be scum' on herself
Squishy's blatant assumption that HF was 'demonizing' him when HF was actually defending him, squishy appearing when being scrutinized
chezinu's most recent string of posts, chezinu's logic on lynching lurkers to keep blues alive as if there's any indication the blue's aren't in the AFK pile
warder smurfing and being AFK at the same time. Could be coag though and if it is I no longer dislike it lmao
things I liked:
Vivax being active
jock trying really hard. I'm trying to townread jock instead of scumming him every game
camping was fun and I smell like a campfire
He disagreed with HF but blames Squishy for doubting HF?
Agh
Not popular opinion but I am voting FF.
Point 1: Saying that chezinu's logic is stupid does not mean that I believe the opposite. You asking how I'm 'so sure' there are blues in the AFKs is either a leading question or just bad reading comprehension. I said chez shouldn't be so sure there are NO blues in the AFKs not that I necessarily think there ARE blues in the AFKs.
Point 2: Already established as false and no longer a jewel
Point 3: I blamed squishy for not reading HF's post and assuming it was a negative one. This has nothing to do with HF and everything to do with squishy and his mindset reading people's posts.
Do you have any good reasons why I'm mafia?
Please review the posts I put the most effort into in a mafia game since like 2015, everyone.
Then vote copcake or tell me why she's being like this as town
She's being ridiculously obnoxious, like 10/10 obnoxious. Why would you do that as mafia?
OK well. Fine. Its 5am here and i can't sleep so i'm grumpy. Either way I don't like how you're pushing me on stuff after i already explained myself as much as i can. Sorry for biting your head off.
I just spent about 24hr straight intoxicated sitting around a campfire, then had to drive about 2.5hours home
Initial reading: wow is that copcake defending herself by saying she's too scummy to be scum? *doesn't actually stop scrolling while skimming* I'll be sure to call that out, weird nobody else did though
2nd reading: It was jock. Shit. Better call that out.
3rd reading: He wasn't even talking about himself....
Jock, this is what he had to say and he is town. In his eyes it’s rayn or me. He did go for a lurker vote though RIP cop. If you want to vote me go for it. All I can say is Vivax could be on to something. I know myself to be clear, you don’t, I get that
Its no necessarily just the night kill... Maybe he wasn't on to something and that's not why mafia killed him, but your reaction to it and based on what you were already posting about rayn at the beginning of today makes it look to me like you were carrying out a plan to be honest.
If I were to judge the night kill in that way (ie its either rayn or you) then let's look at other factors:
If rayn wants to kill people who suspect him he has a long list. Vivax is there for sure but I don't think rayn kills vivax to be honest. He doesn't seem to particularly respect Vivax's ability as town. I would say rayn is more likely to kill eywa in this situation or someone else that's scumreading him.
Vivax was pretty much the only guy who was scumreading you. Killing him eliminates the one guy who's scumreading you and allows you to shift the suspicion onto rayn.
I wouldn't use that alone to make the judgement, but the fact that you were here attempting to carry out that plan immediately is incredibly suspicious to me. This exact kind of thing has been my most effective way of scumhunting recently with a high percentage hit rate on mafia. So often mafia can't help themselves and just have to get that plan going after they've had all night to think about it.
Jock, this is what he had to say and he is town. In his eyes it’s rayn or me. He did go for a lurker vote though RIP cop. If you want to vote me go for it. All I can say is Vivax could be on to something. I know myself to be clear, you don’t, I get that
Its no necessarily just the night kill... Maybe he wasn't on to something and that's not why mafia killed him, but your reaction to it and based on what you were already posting about rayn at the beginning of today makes it look to me like you were carrying out a plan to be honest.
If I were to judge the night kill in that way (ie its either rayn or you) then let's look at other factors:
If rayn wants to kill people who suspect him he has a long list. Vivax is there for sure but I don't think rayn kills vivax to be honest. He doesn't seem to particularly respect Vivax's ability as town. I would say rayn is more likely to kill eywa in this situation or someone else that's scumreading him.
Vivax was pretty much the only guy who was scumreading you. Killing him eliminates the one guy who's scumreading you and allows you to shift the suspicion onto rayn.
I wouldn't use that alone to make the judgement, but the fact that you were here attempting to carry out that plan immediately is incredibly suspicious to me. This exact kind of thing has been my most effective way of scumhunting recently with a high percentage hit rate on mafia. So often mafia can't help themselves and just have to get that plan going after they've had all night to think about it.
You’re cocky. Go for me your stats will take a hit.
I went for rayn, then read Vivax’s filter because I can trust him more now. His reads could be wrong, you’re right
Hell wouldn’t it be smart for mafia to hit vivax and point at me next?
I'm still entertaining this as a possibility, yeah. The thing is no-one else has been pointing at you really so I don't think that would be a good strategy. You're one of the least scumread people here now that Vivax is gone. Not that night kills are always based on good strategy.
The fact that you were already going for rayn at the same time as Vivax died, and then tried to use that death to confirm it makes it look worse for you though imo.
On August 20 2019 15:26 reps)squishy wrote: Hell wouldn’t it be smart for mafia to hit vivax and point at me next?
Thinking about it, no it wouldn't, that's a stupid mafia plan. Not that mafia don't have stupid plans. You aren't even a natural lynch candidate this cycle so it makes no sense for mafia to do that. Pretty much no-one was scumreading you. I wouldn't have scumread you off the NK alone either and no-one else should. If that was the mafia plan its an awful plan.
Jock, this is what he had to say and he is town. In his eyes it’s rayn or me. He did go for a lurker vote though RIP cop. If you want to vote me go for it. All I can say is Vivax could be on to something. I know myself to be clear, you don’t, I get that
Its no necessarily just the night kill... Maybe he wasn't on to something and that's not why mafia killed him, but your reaction to it and based on what you were already posting about rayn at the beginning of today makes it look to me like you were carrying out a plan to be honest.
If I were to judge the night kill in that way (ie its either rayn or you) then let's look at other factors:
If rayn wants to kill people who suspect him he has a long list. Vivax is there for sure but I don't think rayn kills vivax to be honest. He doesn't seem to particularly respect Vivax's ability as town. I would say rayn is more likely to kill eywa in this situation or someone else that's scumreading him.
Vivax was pretty much the only guy who was scumreading you. Killing him eliminates the one guy who's scumreading you and allows you to shift the suspicion onto rayn.
I wouldn't use that alone to make the judgement, but the fact that you were here attempting to carry out that plan immediately is incredibly suspicious to me. This exact kind of thing has been my most effective way of scumhunting recently with a high percentage hit rate on mafia. So often mafia can't help themselves and just have to get that plan going after they've had all night to think about it.
You’re cocky. Go for me your stats will take a hit.
I went for rayn, then read Vivax’s filter because I can trust him more now. His reads could be wrong, you’re right
Hell wouldn’t it be smart for mafia to hit vivax and point at me next?
I'm still entertaining this as a possibility, yeah. The thing is no-one else has been pointing at you really so I don't think that would be a good strategy. You're one of the least scumread people here now that Vivax is gone. Not that night kills are always based on good strategy.
The fact that you were already going for rayn at the same time as Vivax died, and then tried to use that death to confirm it makes it look worse for you though imo.
You say “coincidence I think not!”
I say coincidence
Not much I can say to this to be honest, I'll let other people judge.
On August 20 2019 22:44 CopCake wrote: Point to consider
HF was the only veteran who didnt clear vivax day 1/ night 1
Idk why the others did clear him asap tho
You should know. It was explained pretty thoroughly and many times.
“Meta” but then why people like HF and Ewya didnt clear him 100%?
Eywa wasn't here and hasn't played enough games with Vivax to clear him on meta. HF I'm not sure, ask hf, but don't say you don't know why we cleared him cos you do know that - you just don't want to accept the logic. Which is fine but its not the same thing.
On August 20 2019 22:52 CopCake wrote: I also want to say is impossible to live in a world of HF/Rayn mafia team, Rayn would never ever make that post as mafia if HF was on his team, never, ever.
This is interesting. Who do you think are likely partners if you think rayn is mafia then?
EPT
you agree with that feeling, RIGHT? 
