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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 21 2019 05:20 GMT
#709
Found this while conducting my meta-analysis


On June 24 2018 12:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How the fuck do you have over 1300 posts on tl??? :p


On June 25 2018 11:22 CopCake wrote:
Because i am a cupcake with fingers.



I was thinking something else.


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On August 17 2015 11:44 Chezinu wrote:
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On August 17 2015 11:28 Chezinu wrote:
On August 17 2015 11:24 rsoultin wrote:
lol i read...pretty much everything?

i also don't typically concede as scum but ye it's been kinda a...depressive?...week for me and i couldn't really stomach this game right now :/ i didn't know it would be like that when i signed in or i wouldn't have subjected y'all to it


I wouldn't have voted for you btw.

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You're a girl!

I opened the first five then decided that quoting it like this would be much simpler to read the message. And yes, it does say "You're a girl!" Now we know that Chezinu not voting for women is NAI.

If anyone wants critique feel free to ask.


true true, but you can't just fake claim female cause chez has mad detective skills. I knew rsoultin's claim was true cause her first mafia game was in Nov 2014... She already has over 10,000 posts... I have been playing for about 7 years and I don't even have has as much. Therefore, statistically speaking the probably of her being female rose drastically.


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gender claim confirmed


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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 22 2019 02:53 GMT
#860
if you are curious why...

cause I found out...

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Eywa is a girl!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 22 2019 03:07 GMT
#863
On August 22 2019 12:01 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 22 2019 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
No he's not.

This.

Also not scum

It's ok if you are not scum.

Are you a goon?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 20:31 GMT
#1075
I first read squishy's post as 1 day kill (lynch) and 1 night kill = 2 kills for mafia.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 20:35 GMT
#1078
On August 21 2019 14:14 reps)squishy wrote:
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On August 21 2019 13:54 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:46 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:44 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:36 Chezinu wrote:
I just read FF's filter.

Conclusion:

1. He is reading the game and following along.
2. He claims that he cannot read many times.
3. He speaks clearly but is not rigid like HF.


I like to point fingers. I am paranoid.


FF seems comfortable being oblivious, or may know more than us


touché touché

It's like when you seem to know that I am town...


I had you at null. I have not comprehended what you have said until the last 2 pages. You seem aight when you make sense.


FF was tots Town like I thought.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 20:38 GMT
#1082
Who are yous?

Jockmcplop - UK
raynpelikoneet
reps)squishy

Noticably scum hunting:

Holyflare - UK
Chezinu
CopCake
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 20:44 GMT
#1083
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
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On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 20:47 GMT
#1087
On August 24 2019 05:46 CopCake wrote:
How am I scumhunting rn I am the most useless person here

You are a reaction reader like me.


Here is a hypothesis:
squishy killed FF because he misread what I said about him and ended up killing the guy who had trouble reading (aka FF) because he thought he was blue.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:01 GMT
#1090
On August 22 2019 16:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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But he (Chezinu) has played like 20 games with Holyflare (and Cake has not). He should know his style better than Cake (who he is talking to). The discussion doesn't go anywhere after that because Cake says (and has already said before) that she considers HF town. What's the point of asking those questions when you should already have the answers?

Also what's the point of making a list where you (Chezinu) divide the playerbase in half? Like why can't for example Jock and HF be mafia together? Or Eywa and Jock? Or me and you? Like what evidence does Chezinu have that makes those teams not likely?

Why is Chezinu even voting for Eywa and at the same time asking questions about me and HF (basically implying we are mafia)? We are the people who originally fueled the cases on Eywa, if he agrees with the cases why is he same time basically implying we are mafia?

I am asking you these questions because i want to know where you are coming from, specifically because when you answered to Chezinu (the post i originally quoted) you said you HAD chezinu null BEFORE, and then you "compliment" him on making posts, so basically i cannot make any other conclusion than that you don't anymore read him null but town, i don't see how your wording otherwise makes sense.

You never followed up on this squishy.

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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:02 GMT
#1091
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:04 GMT
#1092
On August 24 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?


Where did I defend him? That was an assumption you made and decided to tell everyone that. Rayn at least knew I literally divided the player list in half and placed numbers to troll people. But people want to believe I was serious about that. I didn't even reorder the list. It's the same list as in the OP.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:10 GMT
#1095
On August 24 2019 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 24 2019 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?


Where did I defend him? That was an assumption you made and decided to tell everyone that. Rayn at least knew I literally divided the player list in half and placed numbers to troll people. But people want to believe I was serious about that. I didn't even reorder the list. It's the same list as in the OP.


The part where you took his post and coloured everything to make sense from a town perspective or a perspective where the guy doesn't know mafia get 2nk.

This looks really reallllyyyy bad for you now that he just admitted he thought it was 2nk because of my post. I'm half tempted to believe his vt claim and lynch you.


You have been very crazy this game HF.

You accuse without base. You keep twisting players words in this game to fit your narrative. Even if you are talented at it. It is getting very old. You have over done it this game.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:12 GMT
#1098
On August 24 2019 06:12 CopCake wrote:
Chezinu is good to see you not writing in riddles btw.


This is the first game where HF is purposely misunderstanding me. I'm actually annoyed.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:14 GMT
#1099
He seems to be searching more for inconsistencies than for scum.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:15 GMT
#1100
You think a town player would give weight to both sides of the argument and not go around and jumping on the first inconsistency and start tunneling.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:16 GMT
#1102
Yeah, if there is a cop. HF should know. Could you shed some light on who you think are together HF?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:19 GMT
#1103
On August 24 2019 06:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ask you something chezinu do you really think squishy killed FF because he misread something you wrote?


Jock, just as you pointed out many possibilities when trying to discern who the mafia are. I too myself think of possibilities. There was a possibly that you couldn't even dream of. You were confident (or so it seemed) that squishy could not be mafia because he would not kill FF. But what if squishy thought FF was blue? Would that change the story?

I like to explore my options. When an option is ignored, I like to bring it up in the thread in a troll like fashion. But it seems like the players this game (except vivax and rayn) can't handle the matter in which I play this game. I guess i will have to speak plainly...
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:30 GMT
#1108
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.

HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?

Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.

Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.

squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.

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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:32 GMT
#1109
On August 24 2019 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 24 2019 06:10 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
[quote]

Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


Chezinu why vote squishy if you defend his post even?


Where did I defend him? That was an assumption you made and decided to tell everyone that. Rayn at least knew I literally divided the player list in half and placed numbers to troll people. But people want to believe I was serious about that. I didn't even reorder the list. It's the same list as in the OP.


The part where you took his post and coloured everything to make sense from a town perspective or a perspective where the guy doesn't know mafia get 2nk.

This looks really reallllyyyy bad for you now that he just admitted he thought it was 2nk because of my post. I'm half tempted to believe his vt claim and lynch you.


You have been very crazy this game HF.

You accuse without base. You keep twisting players words in this game to fit your narrative. Even if you are talented at it. It is getting very old. You have over done it this game.


I think I've been extremely open and forthright this game and no misconstrued really anything.

Please highlight where I've done such things. I will wait.

All I can see is the following:

I've started a no lynch train because it's optimal for town.

Squishy slipped about 2 mafia NK's.

You said some ridiculous points about how his post could mean something else.

I counter it and ask why there is massive inconsistency in your logic/reading.

You ignore it.

Squishy clarifies that he's VT and actually misread based off of my post or something.

I kind of like the cut of his jib and his tone is slightly sincere so I'm wavering.

This makes your post look incredibly like someone who:

A) Knows Squishy's alignment is town and thus he can't possibly know there are 2 mafia KP as it's not in the thread.

B) Tries to make the Squishy post fit the above's narrative.


No, I don't understand any of your posts because I simply don't read them as they are vapid excuses for blending in. I don't really care if there's an underlying meaning I'd much rather you just post the actual meaning and get on with it. It's very much anti win con if you are town and perfect if you are mafia. Ergo you are anti town or mafia and combined with the bold are very much likely to be mafia.

Shooting into FF and Vivax are very very weird plays and reminiscent of someone going for blues IMO too seeing as Vivax wasn't nearly town cleared and FF absolutely was not and wasn't really doing much of anything.



Vivax was the towny player Day 1 in my opinion.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 23 2019 21:39 GMT
#1112
On August 24 2019 06:20 Tubesock wrote:
Mafia has 2 kp on Night 3.


LOL

This is the first game I played where mafia gets 2 kp on night 3.
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