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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:14 GMT
#661
On August 21 2019 12:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why even talk when you guys are just ripping him apart and I don't disagree


We gotz to give him a chance!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 03:15 GMT
#662
On August 21 2019 12:11 Holyflare wrote:
Everything you say is an agenda to manipulate rather than actually solving the game.

Yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive. As town, I want people to vote for my scum reads and as scum I want people to vote for my "scum reads". Manipulation is a good way to achieve that.. And the manipulation has no connection to game solving.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:16 GMT
#663
On August 21 2019 12:12 Eywa- wrote:
Your point was refuted, now it's invalid.


Now we are splashing!!!!

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2019 03:16 GMT
#664
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2019 03:18 GMT
#665
On August 21 2019 12:15 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:11 Holyflare wrote:
Everything you say is an agenda to manipulate rather than actually solving the game.

Yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive. As town, I want people to vote for my scum reads and as scum I want people to vote for my "scum reads". Manipulation is a good way to achieve that.. And the manipulation has no connection to game solving.


I'm glad we both agree you aren't game solving.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 21 2019 03:19 GMT
#666
On August 21 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?

Your reasoning is bringing you down a rabbit hole of lynching town, so... It must be good
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:20 GMT
#667
On August 21 2019 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:15 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:11 Holyflare wrote:
Everything you say is an agenda to manipulate rather than actually solving the game.

Yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive. As town, I want people to vote for my scum reads and as scum I want people to vote for my "scum reads". Manipulation is a good way to achieve that.. And the manipulation has no connection to game solving.


I'm glad we both agree you aren't game solving.


Geez.. your talk is so hard it seems like you are a cop or something. Guess that is what happens when you kill the good cop!!! You shouldn't have killed his cop buddy.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2019 03:20 GMT
#668
You have 24 hours to succinctly state:

Holyflare is mafia because: Minimum two complete sentences.

Rayn is mafia because: Minimum two sentences and an explanation on why rayn felt he had to ate.

Jock is mafia because: something coherent
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:20 GMT
#669
On August 21 2019 12:19 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?

Your reasoning is bringing you down a rabbit hole of lynching town, so... It must be good


Why do you want to be a sacrifice?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 21 2019 03:22 GMT
#670
On August 21 2019 12:19 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?

Your reasoning is bringing you down a rabbit hole of lynching town, so... It must be good


All I can do is provide evidence and have a back and forth conversation whereby people refute the evidence and provide alternate explanations for it and provide better evidence on different people. That's 90% of what mafia is and always should be. This site has gone to shit because it never turns out that way anymore.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:23 GMT
#671
On August 19 2019 08:12 Chezinu wrote:
It is probably safer to lynch inactives to give (if present) our blues a chance to play.


I think we should focus on this guy... He was totally wrong about this statement. Of course, he has been begging for attention or so it seems. But that could just a distraction and prevent us from looking at Eywa further...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:25 GMT
#672
On August 21 2019 12:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:19 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?

Your reasoning is bringing you down a rabbit hole of lynching town, so... It must be good


All I can do is provide evidence and have a back and forth conversation whereby people refute the evidence and provide alternate explanations for it and provide better evidence on different people. That's 90% of what mafia is and always should be. This site has gone to shit because it never turns out that way anymore.


I will take some of the blame for that... lol

I don't like to give out my reads and reasonings all the time because I like to get vibes from people and figure it out.. I am a reactionary reader..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 21 2019 03:25 GMT
#673
On August 21 2019 12:20 Holyflare wrote:
You have 24 hours to succinctly state:

Holyflare is mafia because: Minimum two complete sentences.

Rayn is mafia because: Minimum two sentences and an explanation on why rayn felt he had to ate.

Jock is mafia because: something coherent

Very nice trap but we all know that cases are scummy. This would result in eywa making three cases making him 3x as scummy
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:29 GMT
#674
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"
lol, clueless in The Prism!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 03:34 GMT
#675
I am here and got tired of writing a big post.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 03:37 GMT
#676
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:37 GMT
#677
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.


Finally!! someone who speaks to me!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:43 GMT
#678
The last person to speak to me this game that I recall was this guy:

On August 19 2019 14:19 reps)squishy wrote:
@Chez
Pretend to be useful, maybe you can make someone talk


They talk about me but not to me. I was once a popular troll on these forums... now I am a persona begging for attention that everyone despises (or claim to).

The question is. Who is more likely to speak to The Chez? Mafia or town? Of course town is winning if you include Chez talking to Chez.. ignoring that, would it be alignment indicative?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2019 03:43 GMT
#679
On August 21 2019 12:37 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.


Finally!! someone who speaks to me!!!


How are you chezinu-sama?

Acting odd will keep you alive to day 3, huh?

Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
August 21 2019 03:47 GMT
#680
On August 21 2019 12:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:37 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.


Finally!! someone who speaks to me!!!


How are you chezinu-sama?

Acting odd will keep you alive to day 3, huh?



Last game, I was afk because of real life. Did not work out well. I know if I talk nonsense, I live. People don't like quiet Chezinu. The more I spam the more likely I will live. You can look at my history. All games that I was lynched early on was due to me not spamming the forum (regardless of alignment). So, the TL Mafia community has trained me to spam the thread.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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