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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 15:44 GMT
#457
Why are you a flaccid penis this game FF? You just bend to anyone's will.

I clearly did not demonize Squishy and even said so myself. Even if it's a null read, that's a defence. Why did you back down?

Why did you bend over to Rayn saying I was scummy for something that blatantly wasn't true in the slightest?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 15:54 GMT
#459
I think it's far more likely mafia voted off wagon than on it tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 16:30 GMT
#461
On August 20 2019 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No youre the one lying. You can say the later part of the post is how you interpret it and atm i will take it as face value but the earlier part is just simply i lie. I have easily done way way more than you have in this game.

You can claim i can end up with town reads on vivax/cake/jock, maybe i even would tbh, but saying i havent done anything is just an outright lie because i was there figuring out those people when were jacking off and THEN you put me into your scumpile AFTER you come to SAME conclusions i do because "rayn hasnt done anything". That is bs as fuck, and it is all in the thread for anyone to read.



There is no interpret, that is simply the facts of the thread you tit. You lied about what happened in a chain of events to push forward your scum read.

I don't really give a shit about what you think you've done either and upon actually reading your filter I simply don't agree that you've done anything worthwhile in the slightest.

You literally have about 10 one line posts before I even made that read and somehow you think you've made all these stellar conclusions I should be town reading you for on Cake and Vivax that have almost 0 reasoning.

This, for example, is your read progression on Vivax:

On August 18 2019 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand what hanging around elsewhere in TL has anything to do with anyones alignment?

On August 18 2019 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:25 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand what hanging around elsewhere in TL has anything to do with anyones alignment?


Well I just compared his post history in the general forum to his list of games in the mafia database and there are zero posts when he is playing as mafia and plenty when he's town.
I'm not going to try this with each specific area of tl.net cos I can't be bothered.
Call it bullshit if you want but it makes perfect sense to me. He's eager to play as town and is browsing tl.net while waiting for something to happen in thread, he doesn't do that as mafia.

That's how it seems to me anyway.

Okay that makes more sense. Just to clarify i dont hate the read i just didnt know if i liked the reasoning.

On August 18 2019 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 03:02 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum

Well youre wrong.


Okay. I was honestly super tempted to keep writing but I wanted to see the reply expecting town rayn to either laugh at the obvious circular reasoning or get mad about it and put me on /ignore. I have to say I'm disappointed not to see that.

Is there any reason you just sound so differently from the last times I saw you playing town? Yes/No would suffice.

I really dont know tbh. I am doing my own thing and i dont really care what other people think. For the record youre never going to figure out my alignment with some reaction test.

Youre town and Cake is probably town. Thats pretty much all i have at this point and i am out with a friend so thats most likely all i will have today.

On August 18 2019 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am telling you vivax is town though regardless of my alignment.




Cool, you don't even agree or say you agree with the Vivax read from Jock and then suddenly Vivax is just town with absolutely no reasoning that should convince anyone in the thread.


This is your read progression on Cake:

On August 18 2019 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 03:02 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum

Well youre wrong.


Okay. I was honestly super tempted to keep writing but I wanted to see the reply expecting town rayn to either laugh at the obvious circular reasoning or get mad about it and put me on /ignore. I have to say I'm disappointed not to see that.

Is there any reason you just sound so differently from the last times I saw you playing town? Yes/No would suffice.

I really dont know tbh. I am doing my own thing and i dont really care what other people think. For the record youre never going to figure out my alignment with some reaction test.

Youre town and Cake is probably town. Thats pretty much all i have at this point and i am out with a friend so thats most likely all i will have today.


Then you just went into downplaying Vivax's accusations or something towards Cake.

If you really think that is incredible town play that I should town read you for, I think you'll be sorely disappointed I'm afraid. Just because we reach the same conclusions does not mean I should read you an alignment. I don't even know what made you reach your conclusions nor do I think that's so much work that you should easily be town read by me. The fact is, you did do shit all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 16:35 GMT
#464
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????



In fact this is quite possibly the biggest lie in the thread. Like, really the biggest lie.

Let me just reiterate. There is absolutely 0 questions to Vivax, 0 posts saying you're figuring out Vivax and 0 posts addressing how you got a town read on Vivax. Is this leg work that you did?

Your cop read. There is 0 questions to Cake, 0 posts saying you're figuring out Cake, 0 posts addressing how you got your town read on Cake before you posted it. Is that leg work?

Is this the biggest lie of 2019 or what?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 16:39 GMT
#468
On August 20 2019 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And where do you have even a single post where you have given even aNY implication of how you hsve reachrd your conclusions on those people?


Hold on there, my friend. Where do I say I've done amazing leg work that I need to back this accusation up? You're the one on trial here.

Either way:

On August 19 2019 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 01:14 CopCake wrote:
I know, I know.

HF do you wanna talk to me?

Can you give a read on me?


You're in my town list. I liked something you did but can't remember what it was. Something about arguing with jock and having some reasoning for what you posted or something. I dunno.

Feel free to ask me any questions but I'll probably end up lynching warder or eywa.


BAM, solid reasoning for my Copcake read. Checkmate, Rayn.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 16:42 GMT
#470
On August 20 2019 00:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????


I still don't think you've done anything so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This bold is really really bad though. It's the most fabricated chain of events I can think of. I voted squishy for him saying he was catching up and then posting nothing but that one comment on Vivax. After that fact, while talking to Jock about Jock's devil's advocate stance on squishy, squishy had posted more content and I "defended" him by saying that his posts after that fact weren't awful. In fact, it seemed more a misunderstanding of his about my posts more than anything. Thus, he was UNVOTED and moved to null. The thing is, it's not even null it's an I think he is either townie or scummy (which you may argue is null but it's not!).

THEN I post a reads list of people I have PoEd to be mafia. Furthermore, I quite clearly post the following sentiment multiple times:

On August 19 2019 00:24 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn is afk.
Vivax is ???
I had my gf's birthday to attend to.

Life happens unfortunately.

On August 19 2019 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.


I have no opinion on Rayn this game, he's not posted anything. The vote thing on him was just a joke.

On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax


So, it's quite frankly a lie that I was finding you more scummy than the person I was voting for.

I think FF looks A LOT worse for just blindly finding me townie after re-reading but then throwing that read aside to appease rayn. Looks scummy af. I don't know what this makes rayn but it's lazy as fuck and a lie so scummy at the moment.

On August 19 2019 12:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 19 2019 12:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont understand why anyone thinks HF is town?

As I've said many times before I just townread HF until I see a reason not to because I can't read him at all.

Hi rayn is copcake town or mafia?

I am pretty sure i have already said i think she isn't mafia.

You mean the part, on HF, where all the stuff happening into the game was me, Vivax, Jock and Cake talking and HF sitting throwing out random comments, and me doing pretty much all the legwork for working out reads with / on them, then he arrives to same conclusions that they all are town and then i am the one who did nothing??? Like that just has to be bullshit as fuck, then he even continues on voting squishy (who proably isn't even mafia) but after that i am still more scummy in his list than even the person who he voted for????

Sure, that sounds pretty scummy. I'll give you an HF scumlean for that how about?


I actually already said why I called you town (easier than trying to get a real read on you) and I took what rayn said at face value



By the way, how can you make a post saying I've defended Squishy (the post directly after I say I'm unvoting him or something) BUT THEN take Rayn's post where he says I WAS VOTING for squishy while scum reading rayn (or some bs)????? That's totally contradictory to what you already knew to be the case.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 17:19 GMT
#476
What is there to think about this rayn/hf thing? He said he put in the leg work and there was absolutely 0 leg work. Got called out and then said "What leg work have you done?"

lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 18:24 GMT
#482
On August 20 2019 03:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
I am at work and have already been dogfucking a little too much so my checkins may be sparse for a bit


I don't want to know what your search history is like if that's an auto correct.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 18:25 GMT
#484
On August 20 2019 02:19 Holyflare wrote:
What is there to think about this rayn/hf thing? He said he put in the leg work and there was absolutely 0 leg work. Got called out and then said "What leg work have you done?"

lol


^

Can someone please read rayn's filter and comprehend how he can say he did all the leg work on Vivax and Cop please?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 18:26 GMT
#485
On August 20 2019 03:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do you not use the term dogfucking in uk? Means slacking off


We typically say slacking.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 19:52 GMT
#487
On August 20 2019 03:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 02:19 Holyflare wrote:
What is there to think about this rayn/hf thing? He said he put in the leg work and there was absolutely 0 leg work. Got called out and then said "What leg work have you done?"

lol


^

Can someone please read rayn's filter and comprehend how he can say he did all the leg work on Vivax and Cop please?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 20:29 GMT
#490
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 20:32 GMT
#492
I can already tell I'll need to ignore 90% of this post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 20:34 GMT
#493
I don't really understand what your problem with my read is lol. You're a flat null because I don't think what you've done is outside of your range as mafia, which is in some weird way a compliment. It doesn't mean you're mafia and I don't know why it bothers you so much.

This all came about simply because you called me mafia, not the other way around.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 20:35 GMT
#496
If you've posted that wall of text as mafia rayn I will never respect you ever again.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 20:37 GMT
#499
I mean Eywa's probably mafia so that's something?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 20:38 GMT
#500
On August 20 2019 05:37 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2019 05:10 CopCake wrote:
I don't know what you mean with “leg work” but Rayn explained to Vivax why I am town in his mindset and told me that Vivax is town directly to me.



Leg work means he put in real effort to determine his scum read on people. He is saying that my read on him is bull shit because he put in so much effort that I should read him as an alignment because he spent so much time figuring out both Vivax and yourself.

Do those posts look like he put in that effort? It just says Vivax doesn't play as mafia and Copcake is town and nothing more. Does that look like so much effort that we should town read him for it like he says?


He put A LOT of effort in the me vs FF trying to explaun why I am town.

Like literally a lot.


I don't think less than a handful of posts is a lot of effort but that's just me. I also see a way you could be mafia from the situation he says you must be town in so that's why I don't particularly read rayn one way or another.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 21:09 GMT
#503
On August 20 2019 05:51 CopCake wrote:
But HF wasnt I one of your locked town reads?

What changed?



You are asking and I am answering your questions about rayn, it is your perspective vs what other see. I am trying to see rayn’s posts with “the no effort you see” but it doesnt work. I mean remember our last game in which all mafia were afk? Both of you and myself had guns at each other and idk if it is the case here with you and him (I am trying to be open) .

The game should be fun for everyone.



When have I said otherwise?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 21:12 GMT
#504
On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax



I mean fuck me, if saying Vivax doesn't play as town and giving one scenario that you only do as town is effort then this site really has become minimal af. This is a pointless conversation. Rayn scum read ME and I don't even know if he does anymore, the point was his scum read was a lie. I'm just going to blanket call him town for his emo post though and continue on with my day.

That leaves Chezinu, FF, Eywa, Squishy.

I'm adding Vivax back because he has also done nothing after the lynch other than say he'll see what I say or something boring. Not putting in any more work than necessary. Is he town? Probably. Does that matter? No.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2019 23:17 GMT
#514
On August 20 2019 07:50 Eywa- wrote:
I could see both HF and Rayn being mafia.

Rayn condemning my playstyle here while acknowledging a good performance in my last town game before this one is really suspect.

HF shooting through PoE right now seems to go against his typical playstyle.


I'm pretty sure I do the same thing every single game I've ever played.
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