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I'm going to go with... Unlikely that squishy is mafia based on day 1. | ||
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On August 21 2019 21:11 Eywa- wrote: @Holyflare are you going to continue with this joke of a wagon you're building on me or are you actually going to pull your head out of your ___ and make some decent reads? I'm thinking more and more that this is just mafia and it's pointless for me to beat my head against this wall. Honestly, it makes a lot of sense for the two more argumentative players of the game to try to focus the game on making and breaking cases... Especially if they're mafia. As town, you're more just concerned with people voting your way because you don't have to discredit other players. | ||
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On August 21 2019 21:14 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm going back and honestly I think I might have been reading him from the wrong POV. I still don't like his start of day 2. There seems to be many people he's comfortable saying they are probably not mafia and I was looking at it from the point of view of him trying to get reads out where he hadn't thought about it but maybe he's not doing that and he just has loads of people as null. Like I try to confirm people as town, maybe squishy doesn't and that's what's making me think he's mafia. I'm worried about cognitive bias here because everything I'm reading of his jumps out at me as mafia but I dunno man. Maybe I'll go back and see what's there from a TMI point of view instead. I'm still keeping him as a scumread for now, just for his overall lack of contributions (also I still dislike that list post + day 2 start) but I'm not entirely convinced by my own case on him tbh. The thing with chezinu (#406) probably not being mafia at a point where he had only posted irrelevant nonsense is weird to me. Chezinu could objectively have been any alignment. The only way you could say probably not mafia is that only 2/10 people are mafia so its the same probably not as everyone else if you don't have any town reads. SQUISHY: I'd like to know if you have any solid town reads at this point. Your list post doesn't have any in it at all. Also could you respond to the point about your chezinu read because that's really weird why you would say probably not mafia when he's chezinu. How could you know (or even have any clue at all) whether or not he's mafia at that point? I don't like your thought process, it seems like you're indirectly justifying your read in this one with the option to later withdraw on a town flip. Is it as simple as 2 of HF, Rayn and Jock? | ||
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On August 21 2019 21:28 Jockmcplop wrote: What would the point in doing that be if i was mafia? It barely makes sense. Its like you're trying to prove rayn's case on you true. *Shrug* I don't think you intentionally conveyed it, but that's what I see. Your blindness to the situation is really not alignment indicative, but bad if you're town. Pretty sure 2/3 is mafia. I'm getting lynched, so you can all prepare your defense for when I flip. I imagine it'll be easy enough to sway the sheep. | ||
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So, read Rayn's filter and then make up your own mind and if you come to the wrong conclusion today (which I'm betting you will), vote Rayn tomorrow... But tbh, we probably still lose in that case. | ||
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On August 21 2019 22:30 Holyflare wrote: I'm listening but I just don't really think anyone else is as scummy as you. The issue I have is that I feel like both you and Jock are much better scum players than town players, so it's kind of the expected result regardless of alignment. | ||
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On August 21 2019 23:27 CopCake wrote: Thinking about it, it doesnt make sense a Rayn/HF team. *Shrug* it's definitely Rayn +1 | ||
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On August 21 2019 23:48 Holyflare wrote: Thinking about it??? Did you even read the posts against eywa?? You building a case doesn't have any effect on my alignment. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + /SARCASM | ||
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How would you think it's going to end badly for town if scum is afk? Shouldn't those be the easiest of games? | ||
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Eywa (6): raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, Fecalfest, Chezinu, Copcake, jockmcplop raynpelikoneet (1): Eywa FecalFeast (1): reps)squishy reps)squishy (0): Holyflare (0): jockmcplop (0): Not Voting (0): None I suppose the convenient theory is that it's just me and squishy... Any other theory pretty much indicates that you should move the wagon elsewhere. | ||
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About 25% of posts claiming his reads is pretty high for HF who is usually more inquisitive. | ||
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On August 22 2019 00:35 Eywa- wrote: So, kill me today, then vote Rayn tomorrow, HF day 4... HF seems to have an unsually high amount of his posts claiming what his reads are and who he's going to vote, also a decent number of non-game related posts... Page 2 of his filter is especially bad in this regard and very unlike his town game. About 25% of posts claiming his reads is pretty high for HF who is usually more inquisitive. Obviously, this is shit because we jump right into MyLo, but whatever. | ||
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On August 22 2019 00:45 Holyflare wrote: And why is stating my reads a mafia thing? It's not an objective measure for all players. | ||
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On August 22 2019 00:50 Holyflare wrote: It just gives people a chance to know where my head is at when I have a limited amount of time to play and then I can respond to any questions about my reads if they arise. Not particularly my fault everyone just writes me off as town other than you. I'm still not particularly sure what you even actually scum read me for. First it was poeing which wasn't even true and now it's? Mainly POE, I think there are a decent amount of players town telling. You and Jock just happen to be voting really poorly if you're town, so that plays into it as well. I think FF is very susceptible to sheeping as town, which is a serious weakness in his town game, but I can see how that would provide him cover if he is in fact scum here. Outside of that, I don't think anyone is scum. So... The poe is just Rayn HF Jock FF I think FF has made some relatively towny posts and the poor play could be just his sheeping town style even when it leads to his loss or is directly contrary to his objectives and reads (i.e. last game). Rayn being afk is probably his biggest scum tell, also the fact that he's intentionally not engaging in anything that might cause drama, he's intentionally not stepping on anyone's toes. Lack of interaction between HF/Rayn seems to indicate that at least one of the two is scum. Specifically, lack of meaningful interactions and conflict. HF is just poe, either bad instincts or scum. I don't know how an experienced player is on this wagon and thinks... Hmmm, this wagon looks Kosher, it's just Squishy and Eywa- Jock well, I think some of his posts are actually pretty scummy, but I can't get over the total lack of self-awareness from HF... Though, that could be telling that Jock hasn't really demonstrated much of anything in response to me in comparison. | ||
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