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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 18 2019 15:34 GMT
#221
On August 19 2019 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?


Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk.

As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 18 2019 15:37 GMT
#222
On August 19 2019 00:34 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?


Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk.

As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other



On August 18 2019 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
As long as we lynch into not jock/vivax/cop/me we should be fine


I'm pretty sure this was my town list. If it was just veterans not lynching each other day 1 then Rayn would be on here. I am not afraid to lynch veterans day 1 because it is their fault if they don't play well enough to not be lynched. They're not immune.

Shouldn't you have noticed this post in finding interactions between Vivax and I?
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 18 2019 15:37 GMT
#223
On August 19 2019 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.


I have no opinion on Rayn this game, he's not posted anything. The vote thing on him was just a joke.


What vote on him Vivax voted for Rayn. You did not vote for him
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 18 2019 15:37 GMT
#224
On August 19 2019 00:37 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.


I have no opinion on Rayn this game, he's not posted anything. The vote thing on him was just a joke.


What vote on him Vivax voted for Rayn. You did not vote for him

On August 18 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


Wanna vote him with me? That's my jam recently.

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 18 2019 15:38 GMT
#225
On August 19 2019 00:21 Holyflare wrote:
I don't really understand why you'd defend, or at least play devil's advocate, to this stance since it's inherently a mafia thing to do to skate by. Not that I think he's totally mafia-ish after his last few flurry of posts but now that he's talking about some me and vivax combo and how he has to go back and check if we interact when it's clear if he's just read through the thread that I've posted shit all my spidey senses are tingling.


I'm gonna say the words. The words everyone hates.

It was too mafia to be mafia.

OK come and tell me off now if you want.

I just don't think mafia does that shit knowing its likely to get them lynched.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:40 GMT
#226
But wasnt your “vote” a joke?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:41 GMT
#227
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta

Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 18 2019 15:42 GMT
#228
On August 19 2019 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:34 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?


Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk.

As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other



Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
As long as we lynch into not jock/vivax/cop/me we should be fine


I'm pretty sure this was my town list. If it was just veterans not lynching each other day 1 then Rayn would be on here. I am not afraid to lynch veterans day 1 because it is their fault if they don't play well enough to not be lynched. They're not immune.

Shouldn't you have noticed this post in finding interactions between Vivax and I?



I did, I saw it as regardless of alignment these peeps should be left alive.

You counterpoint my accusations with “it’s early” but you town read that many people that early on?
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 18 2019 15:44 GMT
#229
On August 19 2019 00:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta



Hmmm....

I don't think so to be honest. There's a tiny chance, but in order for Vivax's meta to be changed he would already have to be interested enough to be working with hf on it.

He's still a town lean and DEFINITELY not a lynch for me. On top of his meta he looked like he was trying to figure the game out yesterday and his vote on rayn makes some amount of sense.

I don't like the squishy vote though.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 18 2019 15:44 GMT
#230
On August 19 2019 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:37 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbf Rayn and HF interacted and pointed guns at each other but that is it, not content nor reasons just “feelings”.


I have no opinion on Rayn this game, he's not posted anything. The vote thing on him was just a joke.


What vote on him Vivax voted for Rayn. You did not vote for him

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


Wanna vote him with me? That's my jam recently.



Ok I though a legit ##Vote was done
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:51 GMT
#231
On August 19 2019 00:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:41 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta



Hmmm....

I don't think so to be honest. There's a tiny chance, but in order for Vivax's meta to be changed he would already have to be interested enough to be working with hf on it.

He's still a town lean and DEFINITELY not a lynch for me. On top of his meta he looked like he was trying to figure the game out yesterday and his vote on rayn makes some amount of sense.

I don't like the squishy vote though.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?

Just imagine the amount of shennanigans, the party on the qt, being able to fool smart players.

I would had been excited.

My perspective is that ok you dont have a game to solve but you have to be smart enough to fool “the veterans” but that is my perspective, never rely on meta 100%.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 18 2019 15:51 GMT
#232
On August 19 2019 00:42 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:34 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?


Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk.

As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other



On August 18 2019 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
As long as we lynch into not jock/vivax/cop/me we should be fine


I'm pretty sure this was my town list. If it was just veterans not lynching each other day 1 then Rayn would be on here. I am not afraid to lynch veterans day 1 because it is their fault if they don't play well enough to not be lynched. They're not immune.

Shouldn't you have noticed this post in finding interactions between Vivax and I?



I did, I saw it as regardless of alignment these peeps should be left alive.

You counterpoint my accusations with “it’s early” but you town read that many people that early on?



Why would anyone say that regardless of alignment we should leave people alive?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 18 2019 15:54 GMT
#233
On August 19 2019 00:51 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:41 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta



Hmmm....

I don't think so to be honest. There's a tiny chance, but in order for Vivax's meta to be changed he would already have to be interested enough to be working with hf on it.

He's still a town lean and DEFINITELY not a lynch for me. On top of his meta he looked like he was trying to figure the game out yesterday and his vote on rayn makes some amount of sense.

I don't like the squishy vote though.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?

Just imagine the amount of shennanigans, the party on the qt, being able to fool smart players.

I would had been excited.

My perspective is that ok you dont have a game to solve but you have to be smart enough to fool “the veterans” but that is my perspective, never rely on meta 100%.


I don't normally use meta that much to be honest, but Vivax is kind of a special case in that regard (he's one of the easiest people to meta read) and as I've said a few times I'm only leaning town on him - but that's good enough for him definitely not to be the day 1 vote.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?


Is this some kind of claim?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 18 2019 15:55 GMT
#234
On August 19 2019 00:42 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:34 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Vivax and I are scummy? Just because we're voting you?

Can you also explain why Vivax and I should interact if we were both town and I have said not to lynch him today either?


Because if you were town, you would want to get a read on each other. Best way to do that is not sitting passive, but quoting a post and getting them to talk.

As far as not voting for each other is that you guys don’t want to lynch a veteran D1. Not that you guys are town reading each other



On August 18 2019 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
As long as we lynch into not jock/vivax/cop/me we should be fine


I'm pretty sure this was my town list. If it was just veterans not lynching each other day 1 then Rayn would be on here. I am not afraid to lynch veterans day 1 because it is their fault if they don't play well enough to not be lynched. They're not immune.

Shouldn't you have noticed this post in finding interactions between Vivax and I?



I did, I saw it as regardless of alignment these peeps should be left alive.

You counterpoint my accusations with “it’s early” but you town read that many people that early on?


Yes, it's a town list lol. I don't ever care about leaving people alive, I just town read people and find mafia in the narrowed down pool of players. That makes the game much more simple.

Like I said, if it was people to just be left alive and you said that's because vivax was a veteran, why is Rayn not on the list?

I can see a lot of your points being raised are just misunderstandings though so it's whatever and I don't care to push it anymore because it's boring. The people I think could be mafia aren't posting.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 18 2019 15:57 GMT
#235
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 18 2019 15:57 GMT
#236
Who are the people you think could be mafia hf?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 18 2019 15:58 GMT
#237
I know what you're thinking before you've thought it.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 18 2019 15:59 GMT
#238
On August 19 2019 00:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:51 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:41 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta



Hmmm....

I don't think so to be honest. There's a tiny chance, but in order for Vivax's meta to be changed he would already have to be interested enough to be working with hf on it.

He's still a town lean and DEFINITELY not a lynch for me. On top of his meta he looked like he was trying to figure the game out yesterday and his vote on rayn makes some amount of sense.

I don't like the squishy vote though.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?

Just imagine the amount of shennanigans, the party on the qt, being able to fool smart players.

I would had been excited.

My perspective is that ok you dont have a game to solve but you have to be smart enough to fool “the veterans” but that is my perspective, never rely on meta 100%.


I don't normally use meta that much to be honest, but Vivax is kind of a special case in that regard (he's one of the easiest people to meta read) and as I've said a few times I'm only leaning town on him - but that's good enough for him definitely not to be the day 1 vote.

Show nested quote +

WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?


Is this some kind of claim?


Not claim in this game but I love to be mafia when I have a good teamate that doesnt just afk.

And either way, dont you find odd that vivax didnt question you about meta reading him? Like he could had seen that as “Omg he is trying to pocket me” but he didnt? Let me check because I was tunneling you and maybe I should had put my sight to the other side.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 18 2019 16:00 GMT
#239
I like that list very much hf. I can work with you on that for sure.

It basically looks like were going to have to lynch a lurker now doesn't it? Its bullshit and I wish town peeps wouldn't do this on day 1 cos it just makes it too random but whatever.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
August 18 2019 16:04 GMT
#240
On August 19 2019 00:59 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 00:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:51 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:41 CopCake wrote:
On August 19 2019 00:20 CopCake wrote:
Hohoho activity 😁

This shall be interesting

Do you think a team of mafiaHF with mafiaVivax would make Vivax leave his mafia meta of “not being interested in the game”?


@jock

Play with this idea in your world of meta



Hmmm....

I don't think so to be honest. There's a tiny chance, but in order for Vivax's meta to be changed he would already have to be interested enough to be working with hf on it.

He's still a town lean and DEFINITELY not a lynch for me. On top of his meta he looked like he was trying to figure the game out yesterday and his vote on rayn makes some amount of sense.

I don't like the squishy vote though.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?

Just imagine the amount of shennanigans, the party on the qt, being able to fool smart players.

I would had been excited.

My perspective is that ok you dont have a game to solve but you have to be smart enough to fool “the veterans” but that is my perspective, never rely on meta 100%.


I don't normally use meta that much to be honest, but Vivax is kind of a special case in that regard (he's one of the easiest people to meta read) and as I've said a few times I'm only leaning town on him - but that's good enough for him definitely not to be the day 1 vote.


WHO WOULDNT BE HAPPY TO BE MAFIA WITH HF?


Is this some kind of claim?


Not claim in this game but I love to be mafia when I have a good teamate that doesnt just afk.

And either way, dont you find odd that vivax didnt question you about meta reading him? Like he could had seen that as “Omg he is trying to pocket me” but he didnt? Let me check because I was tunneling you and maybe I should had put my sight to the other side.


I don't think its odd at all, no. Exactly the same thing happened with someone else in the last game, they read him using the same thing and he was town and reacted in the same way.

On July 24 2019 02:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
right. do you have a erad on hf and/or vivax FF?

Vivax town by virtue of his having posted at all at this point in the game. I haven't gone back to reread hfs entry since you told me i may be mistaken on the tone so idk


Fefe was also town in this game.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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