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Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 16:23 GMT

#1210

But why did Chezinu vote for squishy in the first place?
Its still unclear.

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 16:30 GMT

#1212

On August 25 2019 01:28 CopCake wrote:
But why does he follow HF lead if he is pissed at him? Or do I miss remember?

I am on phone let me filter quick.

Seemed to me like he was under pressure from hf about voting for squishy while defending squishy so he made his excuses and moved his vote rather than explain why he was doing what he was doing.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 24 2019 16:34 GMT

#1214

Chez also said he didn't have a read on rayn and then votes for rayn like wtf..

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 16:35 GMT

#1215

On August 24 2019 07:02 Chezinu wrote:

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On August 24 2019 06:59 Holyflare wrote:

On August 24 2019 06:58 Chezinu wrote:

On August 24 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote:

On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:

On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:

On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:

On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:

On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:

On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?

Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?

But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.

Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

~~day lynch + night kill~~ night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.

So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.

On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:

On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.

HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?

Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.

Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.

squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.

What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia.

Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing.

Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong.
Post asking who I'm mafia with.
Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence.
Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia.
Posts that ask what people think of other people.
Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation.
Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts.
Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list.

Now I'm actually reading your posts:

On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...

Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.

You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu?

LOL

hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake.

The whole premise of this game is to hunt inconsistencies and make people answer them. So, which is it? Is he misunderstanding you or does he understand you. What read do you have on rayn?

Both (he understood that the list was a troll, but he misunderstood what I was saying and that I was implying that you and rayn are mafia).

and I don't have a read on rayn

On August 24 2019 07:11 Chezinu wrote:
I think a Rayn lynch would be a nice way to end this.

There's literally 9 minutes between these two posts.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 24 2019 16:36 GMT

#1216

WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE 9 MINUTES?????

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 16:40 GMT

#1218

He never explained why he knew that he claimed ignorance and just sort of said...

That someone had mentioned it before...

But he said it in such a townie way lol

On August 24 2019 05:47 reps)squishy wrote:

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I literally had no idea what I was talking about. I read your if there is 2nk post here:

https://tl.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=1033&topic_id=550431

And I took it at face value to why no lynch would be good.

I am vanilla town. Remember reading this would be a VERY vanilla game because it is vaporwave. Well I am the third vanilla towny. I may have just thrown this game for town because I did not know what I was talking about.

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 17:29 GMT

#1231

On August 25 2019 02:19 CopCake wrote:

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No...

I have to keep it simple.

He didn't use "IF" like the second sentence.

He was sure.

Besides he is against the no lynch, which is like... give us one town member alive to avoid the misslynch.

Arg.

I don't know maybe you're right?

His explanation makes sense kind of though. I can see a scenario where he doesn't use 'if' but isn't confirming it, he's just repeating what he saw from holyflare.
Tbf squishy has been quite scummy imo and i was townreading him because of the FF night kill but maybe I'm just wrong about that instead.

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 17:30 GMT

#1232

On August 25 2019 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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lies

OK but I really don't want to argue about the last game anyway I just gave an answer to the question i was asked.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 24 2019 18:21 GMT

#1254

I like it copcake. I think chez is the best lynch anyway.
So you think mafia is chez+squishy, yeah?

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 19:00 GMT

#1305

On August 25 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
we need to kill hf, then squishy. ggnore.

Wait has everyone been in the thread since rayn claimed?
No counter claim?

On August 25 2019 03:39 Holyflare wrote:

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You are fake claiming then?

HF you'll have to help me out i don't understand. Why is rayn fakeclaiming?

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 24 2019 19:04 GMT

#1313

On August 25 2019 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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yes

In that case I'm voting for squishy if we're different. Squishy is mafia.
My vote stays there unless someone counters the cop claim. I would encourage everyone who believes i'm town to join me unless you have a reason to doubt rayn.

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 19:06 GMT

#1319

On August 25 2019 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
never ever let HF live after, please.

Rayn if you are telling me that squishy and i are different i have no choice squishy is 100% mafia you 95% on holyflare doesn't do it for me.

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 19:09 GMT

#1328

On August 25 2019 04:03 CopCake wrote:
I am here too Jock

What do you make of all this?

Squishy has to be the lynch, right?

Jockmcplop

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August 24 2019 19:49 GMT

#1355

On August 25 2019 04:39 CopCake wrote:
@the others

What are the probablities of HF being mafia?

The question is mostly for you Jock.

I don't know.

Squishy
Chez/hf

I think you and rayn are town. The lack of a counter claim means rayn is cop. You are approaching the game pretty town-like.

Between chez and hf its the hardest pair for me to judge. I've never been able to read either of them. I was getting town vibes off hf earlier but I don't think anything he's done is outside his mafia range either. His reaction to rayn's claim was puzzling. I put value in rayn's opinion on hf because he is town and has played many, many games with hf.

Chez is more obviously suspicious to me though. His constant blue hunting isn't even subtle and i disliked his posting yesterday.

Once again if hf is mafia I'm going to kick off massive after the game about his no lynch plan.

Maybe 80% chez 70% hf chance of being mafia.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 24 2019 19:54 GMT

#1359

On August 25 2019 04:51 CopCake wrote:
Ok so let me get this clear

6 players.
Chez * Cake * Rayn * HF * Squishy * Jock

If we dont lynch at night have

2 dead persons, lets say Jock and Cake who are town reads

That would leave

2 mafia vs 2 townies

Isnt it End game either way if we misslynch today?????????

Yes this is lylo, so we have to lynch squishy unless there's a counter claim

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 24 2019 19:56 GMT

#1360

ie anyone who isn't voting for squishy right now is mafia.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 24 2019 20:14 GMT

#1369

Given that he just went to bed, yeah.
If he was gonna be around till end of day he should have waited to see if we vote squishy anyway.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 25 2019 05:17 GMT

#1455

gg everyone!
Thanks for hosting slam

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 25 2019 05:42 GMT

#1463

On August 25 2019 14:32 reps)squishy wrote:
Frustrating... gg

Go jock for picking on me from the get go

Haha sorry about that dude. Planting those seeds early on day 2 paid off though. I almost backed myself into a corner with the townread on you on day 3 though because rayn wanted me to keep pushing for your lynch at that point. I wanted to lynch chez. I had to figure out a way to get back to scumreading you and luckily copcake made a case on you at the exact right time, but the rayn fakclaim made sure of it anyway.

Copcake just had unfortunate timing with her reads. We had already decided to kill FF when she came with 'jock and ff are communicating' which really helped me out to be honest, then when she went back and scumread squishy for the 'scumslip' it was perfect timing again it just allowed me to switch back to squishy without it being too jarring.

Eywa and Vivax both had great reads early game so well played those two.

Mafia DID NOT KNOW about the 2KP on night 3, everything I posted in the thread was genuine about that. I literally just remembered what rayn had said before the game.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9675 Posts

August 25 2019 05:58 GMT

#1467

On August 25 2019 14:51 Chezinu wrote:
I'm curious. How did HF know Copcake was the cop?

I would guess that its because copcake seemed extra paranoid about people blue hunting during day 2 when the no-lynch scenario was discussed.

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