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On July 30 2019 18:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 18:49 Pandain wrote:On July 30 2019 18:45 Holyflare wrote: If you think I'm anything but town now, Pandain, I don't know what to tell you. I've already explained I was trying to make a parity cop play. Your play is townie and I'm nowhere near lynching you, but after what happened with Rayn last game I'm giving anyone with a lot of experience a more reserved judgment before any "definitely townie" reads. I don't get it. So if Chezinu was town you would ...what? Well: A) I didn't think he was town B) Even if he was I'd pretend to be parity and get shot letting our actual parity get off a check C) If I didn't get shot I'd know mafia was full of baddies D) If I didn't get shot and someone else that wasn't a lead vet got shot after I basically claimed parity then I would of rampaged on bugs/koshi
Don’t ever try this again.
Seriously, if you’re town this plan is selfish as fuck and awful to boot.
From the poor townie PC perspective they have no idea whether you’re mafia trying to bait a claim or whether you’re a townie fake claiming. Ordinarily you could apply the logic that no scum would ever trade 1 for 1 in that situation, but it isn’t true here because:
1. A veteran scum player trading 1 for 1 for the real parity cop is actually a solid play there. The PC, if they believe you are scum, has a strong chance of counterclaiming before day 3 which allows scum to shoot on n2, because in the moment they will think you are the best lynch. This is especially true for someone like me where I will be wondering why the fuck you hijacked a lynch of Koshi to kill an afk vanilla townie.
2. You should have already known mafia were full of baddies when they fucked up the mason hunt on n1. Anyone who was reading the game should have known that tube was rayn’s partner essentially within minutes of his flip by reading the vote count & who sheeped rayn and said they’d tunnel us forever for no reason at all (hint: TUBE)
3. Your last statement proves that scum kills (except when shooting confirmed townies) don’t really matter all that much.
I think the Vivax kill was bad because there was a confirmed town after day 1. Otherwise, any kill would have been fine, because people read all sorts of weird shit into scum kills, as proven by the fact that people tried to read into the tube shot anything other than “oh, they figured out tube is the mason, finally”
If you’re town I seriously implore you to stop trying to pull plays like this. They don’t win games, and they make it harder for your teammates. Maybe they sound fun to you but it is decidedly not fun in the moment to try and figure out what the fuck you are doing when it causes so much chaos. This is precious time lost trying to piece things together as proven by the number of times you are being asked to explain yourself.
As scum you are an experienced enough player to do it and use it to your advantage even if you haven’t been brave enough to try it till now.
-wherebugsgo
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On July 30 2019 22:45 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 22:42 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 22:38 Eywa- wrote: I mean, FF is scum, you think he cases me on day 1, pushes me all of day 2 and eventually cases me on Day 3 saying he was OK with my day 1, but now he's not? I mean... It's just inventing for the sake of creating a read. No read. Just your bad posting that is counterproductive. You need to go. Strong defence. I wonder how I'm going to counter that. No need to bother with defense. Even a quick skimp of your filter reveals that nothing you do leads anywhere. Youre hiding behind fake activity with nothing more than unsubstantial accusations wherever thrad sentiment points towards.
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On July 30 2019 21:31 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 19:03 Pandain wrote: Mz has made long posts that I really don't want to read. I know that's a terrible reason. Why are you so scummy? Since when do long posts indicate alignment?
can you not read? I never said you were scummy for making long posts
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On July 30 2019 23:01 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 21:31 Eywa- wrote:On July 30 2019 19:03 Pandain wrote: Mz has made long posts that I really don't want to read. I know that's a terrible reason. Why are you so scummy? Since when do long posts indicate alignment? can you not read? I never said you were scummy for making long posts I never said you did. You said you think MZ is town, but mostly because you didn't read his long posts.
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On July 30 2019 22:51 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 22:45 Eywa- wrote:On July 30 2019 22:42 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 22:38 Eywa- wrote: I mean, FF is scum, you think he cases me on day 1, pushes me all of day 2 and eventually cases me on Day 3 saying he was OK with my day 1, but now he's not? I mean... It's just inventing for the sake of creating a read. No read. Just your bad posting that is counterproductive. You need to go. Strong defence. I wonder how I'm going to counter that. No need to bother with defense. Even a quick skimp of your filter reveals that nothing you do leads anywhere. Youre hiding behind fake activity with nothing more than unsubstantial accusations wherever thrad sentiment points towards. So you don't think either FF or MZ are scum ducks?
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Eywa why do you think MZ is scum?
Like really I don’t know if anyone else actually thinks that at this point and you literally never explain your read.
-wherebugsgo
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On July 30 2019 23:05 NoSmurfHere wrote: Eywa why do you think MZ is scum?
Like really I don’t know if anyone else actually thinks that at this point and you literally never explain your read.
-wherebugsgo I think he slipped early on, made some bad cases, then made some better cases, and now somehow everyone thinks he's town because goldfish memory doesn't go back as far as day 1.
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I mean, in a game that's this hard to read and this tight, I think it's important to not give passes for anything. Like, we're all pretty much scum reading Branch due to his terrible entrance, but if that was day 1, I bet you all would have forgotten about it. He can't play the card of "Well, everything has been kosher since then".
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Slam, HF and nosmurfhere are always town, so we should be able to figure this out, we just need 2 more solid reads.
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Then, we can POE this hard and lock it in.
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On July 30 2019 23:17 Eywa- wrote: Slam, HF and nosmurfhere are always town, so we should be able to figure this out, we just need 2 more solid reads. We should start by eliminated the most obtuse and hard to read person from this game. Lynch Eywa
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On July 30 2019 23:18 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 23:17 Eywa- wrote: Slam, HF and nosmurfhere are always town, so we should be able to figure this out, we just need 2 more solid reads. We should start by eliminated the most obtuse and hard to read person from this game. Lynch Eywa You're right, we shouldn't eliminate our scum reads, nor should we try to expand the town circle for a hard POE, we should fucking wing it by lynching someone we don't understand.
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On July 30 2019 18:32 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 18:21 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 24 2019 06:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Hi I'm back, I wanna lynch Coag because I fucking hate stupid fucking scum claims.
Give me like 20 minutes to catch up and digest. That didn't take long to find. Does this still affect your read on me? It seems to me that this is the source of your cognitive bias against me. Please reevalute with this in mind. I don't think it looks like cognitive bias. People were generally willing to townread you when you first subbed in to the thread, but the way you have posted has led to you being one of the main scum candidates. You aren't doing town things right now, your end of day was panicky like you wanted to look like you were voting in the 'right' place and you took ages to update how you were thinking about the game when things changed, as if you were waiting for town opinion to shift before you would shift your own opinion. You pushed us hard when you first came in to the thread and that's why people were null-townish on you. Who are you going to push now? How are you going to figure the game out? It looks like you're just coasting to the next lynch but its urgent that town figures the game out quickly and doesn't mislynch any more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 10:42 Fecalfeast wrote: Also was considering making a QT and showing how easily I could fake 10 QT posts because I have like 100 qts with everyone's qt usernames and shit to reference but I am far too lazy Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote:On July 30 2019 10:44 Alakaslam wrote:On July 30 2019 10:42 Fecalfeast wrote: Also was considering making a QT and showing how easily I could fake 10 QT posts because I have like 100 qts with everyone's qt usernames and shit to reference but I am far too lazy Oh Jock posted all 90 man. oh Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 10:45 Fecalfeast wrote: I will save my thoughts on that for post-game FF complaining (or insinuating that he had complaints at least) about the QT thing is pretty much a scum claim, no? -J How many times am I going to scumclaim as town lmao
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You know how you beat people you can't read BRANCH? You POE them, since you have no interest in working on actually identifying who is scum and who is town, I don't see how you can possibly be town.
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On July 30 2019 23:21 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 23:18 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 23:17 Eywa- wrote: Slam, HF and nosmurfhere are always town, so we should be able to figure this out, we just need 2 more solid reads. We should start by eliminated the most obtuse and hard to read person from this game. Lynch Eywa You're right, we shouldn't eliminate our scum reads, nor should we try to expand the town circle for a hard POE, we should fucking wing it by lynching someone we don't understand. You ARE a scum read. Eliminating you MAKES process of eliminiation easier. I will keep pushing you till you get lynched or start posting meaningful contribution. Lynch Eywa, lynch scum.
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On July 30 2019 23:18 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 23:17 Eywa- wrote: Slam, HF and nosmurfhere are always town, so we should be able to figure this out, we just need 2 more solid reads. We should start by eliminated the most obtuse and hard to read person from this game.Lynch Eywa
On July 30 2019 23:24 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 23:21 Eywa- wrote:On July 30 2019 23:18 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 23:17 Eywa- wrote: Slam, HF and nosmurfhere are always town, so we should be able to figure this out, we just need 2 more solid reads. We should start by eliminated the most obtuse and hard to read person from this game. Lynch Eywa You're right, we shouldn't eliminate our scum reads, nor should we try to expand the town circle for a hard POE, we should fucking wing it by lynching someone we don't understand. You ARE a scum read. Eliminating you MAKES process of eliminiation easier. I will keep pushing you till you get lynched or start posting meaningful contribution. Lynch Eywa, lynch scum.
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The push is getting harder, maybe I just started making sense
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On July 30 2019 23:14 Eywa- wrote: I mean, in a game that's this hard to read and this tight, I think it's important to not give passes for anything. Like, we're all pretty much scum reading Branch due to his terrible entrance, but if that was day 1, I bet you all would have forgotten about it. He can't play the card of "Well, everything has been kosher since then".
That’s not why I’m scumreading branch. I’m scumreading branch because he has had a long time to make sense and still doesn’t. All of his pushes are just reasons pulled from thin air and his logic makes no sense (+ he’s ultra-defensive of his pushes right up until he’s not). It’s like he’s making up reads. I actually gave him a pass all of yesterday because he was a replacement.
As for why I don’t scumread MZ, I never saw his entrance on day 1 as bad and I still don’t see anything wrong with his posts. In particular I have no idea how you can think branch and MZ are scum together unless MZ is next-level bussing because MZ was basically the only player who straight up called out branch on his bs yesterday. He tore apart his logic, in a situation where he could have just sat back and watched Chezinu get lynched.
-wherebugsgo
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Day Three Vote Count
Koshi (4): NoSmurfHere, NoSmurfHere, Alakaslam, Meapak_Ziphh, Pandain Eywa (2): FecalFeast, Branch.AUT Branch.AUT (1): Eywa Holyflare (0): NoSmurfHere NoSmurfHere (0): Holyflare, FecalFeast, Alakaslam FecalFeast (0): Eywa
Not Voting (3): Koshi, Eversince, Holyflare
Koshi is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Tuesday, Jul 30 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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