EPTAssuming I'm town Bugs/J, who would be mafia outside Pandain then?
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Assuming I'm town Bugs/J, who would be mafia outside Pandain then? | ||
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 !! I'm not going to fight this much though. I lose hotspot soon unless I can renew and I won't know that until Monday morning. I'll try to prove myself town but if everyone wants to lynch me anyway just lynch me before Pandain because at least then new games can start. If my post make me look worse then fine. I don't care. at least post-game I can say I tried to tell you people! I roll over for no one hehe ! | ||
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You over estimate how fast I read, and as much this sounds like excuse (you can choose to call me a liar, I'll call you trash later); I'm working from home which doesn't mean I can just fuck off and not accomplish things. What conclusion was I suppose to come to here? I think Koshi has been pfft all game. Giving benefit of doubt on Branch (because I can't meta him though he's lying about certain things) I ask who else I should be looking into. I explain these things because in that time after when I said my activity falls right off cliff. Town lynches me we freakin' lose. So of course I'm going to try to argue with you. Because you have main thread support (Meaning your my best hope at avoiding ML on myself, assuming I can get you to not scum read me zz) otherwise, mafia kill you, town lynches me, and we lose! Wth is so hard to understand about this?!? | ||
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I'm go take care of previous stated responsibilities now. I'll check back in in 45-hr but otherwise I'm just going to toss the towel in this game.. Sorry town. | ||
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 . They really do become part of your family eventually and losing them sucks super bad r.r!! | ||
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Koshi putting in effort on D4 should never give him free walk for how he has played until now. Ever. If you think it does then my goodness, Koshi if your town I'm super disappointed here :'(!! Even on D4 he hard changes his read on me to 'confirm scum' when admitting he's not even reading my post. What the actual ****! And Koshi/ Branch acting together to swing NSH to push onto me (you can say you lead NSH, but Koshi OMGUS m!ES long before you did it during last day cycle..) Giving one of the two out of Koshi/Branch a pass here, I would say Koshi is the mafia. I think it was yourself that said Eywa/MZ didn't make sense but Eywa hasn't done anything worth mentioning since D1. That Rayn push could of come from town but analysis says he just pushed Rayn out of the game, ghosted (whether wedding was real/not), and continues to not contribute much of anything. This is scary because it's been very well establish that t!Eywa can be a royal pain in the butt! But assuming I'm wrong on one in between Koshi/ Branch it leaves Pand/ Eywa. Since I'm pretty sure the rest are town as of now. With the exception of Pandain but I always waffle on Pandain....... So lay out a good case on him because I can't digest his play either way ever. I'll sheep that vote if it happens. | ||
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 .. I'm dead though so I'm sleep soon. | ||
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On August 03 2019 23:24 Branch.AUT wrote: What makes me scumread you the very most, is that, same as MZ did, you go out of your way, to misunderstand und reframe statements to fit your narrative. This happened when we talked earlier, and also with bugs the following hours. You can call it that if you want, but you should read some of my past games, I can be dense as a blackhole sometime, it causes me problems most of the time. Saying I'm going out of my way to misunderstand is just wrong. Why would I intentionally throw myself under a truck when I have absolutely no reason to as m!ES? | ||
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#2161 Makes sense if mafia thought they could maintain lynch on me. They can't because anyone voting where your not voting is just outing themselves. It looked like they tried to push me through but you screwed there plan there when MZ became lynch.Pandains throwaway vote (you already mention this so I won't re-hash) looks bad because he 180's his perspective for apparently no reason at all.. So I can totes see bus here. It's just lack luster because they don't want to hard stance on it. Eywa would be the exception for pushing MZ D1 I think? But Eywa never does anything more with MZ after that. Answer your post under that about Pandain: I waffle Pandain every game! He always manages to look mafia to me somehow so I try to to emphasize on it too much but he's been toeing dirt for a while now. He comes around and puts up some easy case (town playing like trash makes it easy for scum to make legit sounding case against), or spouts some useless conversation, then he goes back to afk land.. Which is problematic. I already said I'd lynch into him if someone can make a viable case because I can't because I just honest can't read Pandain better than a feather stands it's ground in a hurricane .. | ||
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You point on Pandain is exactly why I'm more leaving it up in the air to let others read Pandain. Pandain's play style just looks dirty to me all the time. I can't read him well ever so I just end up tunnel on him or I ignore it. That's bad of me here I know, but it's true :/.. Like every other game I find Pandain very questionable. If someone else can lay out analysis on him that would be great because I always fail to get it .. | ||
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.. I do think it's more likely that Koshi is just mafia though, but I'm willing to hear other sides right now because I don't want to lose! | ||
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On August 04 2019 14:07 NoSmurfHere wrote: I don’t fucking understand what conclusion you are drawing. Like ever. Can you actually take a stance?? From your perspective it seems like you think we are town. Do you think Koshi is scum or not? Work with me here, seriously if you are town this waffling is not helping. You look like you are the only person putting any effort in besides us at this moment and I can’t tell if it’s because you’re scum and about to die or if it’s because you’re town and you’re genuinely confused. Pick two names right now. Or assign percentages. Or just pick one person. Idgaf. Right now you’re giving no indication on who you’d actually vote and that’s the only thing that matters. You have one vote. If you can’t put down thoughts on the other 3 all at once then everything else and pick the one person you would kill at this very moment. -wherebugsgo I can't pick just two because of reasons I just said (I am confused because none of this play makes sense from town) But three; Koshi: Same reasons as I hasted out in detail many times before, won't rehash unless you you want short sum. Ontop of those his 'going to read ES' -> never reads ES -> 'ES confirm mafia' is so nitpicking that it's so terrible in lylo I can't see town doing this ever. If you admit to not reading my post, say you will go back and do so, then label me mafia WITHOUT doing that in freaking LYLO then you are 1) super trash tier town and I'm going to rage at you so hard post game b) mafia. Eywa: Pushed Rayn super hard D1, ghosted D2, promised activity after returning from wedding (cause absent D2), never did that, be comepletely irrelevant rest of game to date. Not the egotistical brute that I played with before. It was there on D1, and it's been fain after, like nothing Eywa does is solidifying into anything. Where did that fire from D1 go? It's just completely gone. Pandain: Mostly useless this entire game. He puts easy cases on easy shit town. It's easy to put together a case on a town (IE look at MZ FF case, completely reasonable, because FF town play this game was garbage and everyone wanted to lynch) It looks really wierd to me because he just goes with what looks to be thread sentiment says 'this guy could be easy kill' -> 'case' -> 'Oh look how useful I am!!' When he really hasn't put anything new he's just running town sentiment and putting us to do mafia's job for him. MZ did this same thing. | ||
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.. I only pointed to past games to show I can be low active and I don't lie about not being able to play. People were using that as a point against me and it's super bad. If I had to choose right now, It's probably Koshi/Eywa. Pandain is rather useless but he's not driving factor. Also when I tried to move lynch away from Chezinu Pandain was only other that was with me in that. Even though I was still scum reading him at the time, I think I have to give him some lead way because of it. I could call it TMI but unless it's just m!Pand trying to score town points (obvious failure) then why did he not just push into it? And Pand didn't jump on me either iirc when I was for lynch and mafia could of just tried to hard push me and won last cycle. So that's where I am at. Hopefully this makes sense :d.. | ||
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Ok, I'm tired so apologies in advance if this seems short. Literally any of the people I town read on right now would help my Pandain read. I've said 65536 *crash* number of times I can't read Pandain. He's always scum looking to me. I want other people to lay out what they see so I can judge based on more than my 'Goodness Pandain look like mafia like he does every game to me'.. MZ not interacting with me I can't answer. I'm not MZ, I'm not mafia, I don't know what they were thinking. Best I can come up with off top of mind is I came off town enough early game ( but super low activety, so easy ML later), so mafia ignore me early. And if they tried to hammer me, HF literally saved me by pushing onto Chezinu. Which sucked for town but it gives us a chance still at least. Mafia team gave the lynch on me away because of HF, now with MZ flipping I look terrible and they'll still win if I get pushed through. Which is easy for even bad scum to get, I'm lose hotspot tomorrow night (unless I get lucky can renew) Which means I'm not even going to be around to defend myself. Just lynch ES and win the game which mafia cares losing MZ if it guarantee town lynch? I've had mafia reads on tons more than Koshi -.-.. FF, Chez, Koshi, Pandain, MZ, etc. I can't park my vote on Koshi if the rest of town isn't. It's better to consolidate than be out in the bleacher for nothing. And I DID filter Pandain. I made a post about it. I filtered MZ much later but now I get flack for re-evaluating reads. Lots of good that did me huh? And just to make sure I got this right.. You're going to lynch me because Pandain/MZ/ES didn't 'interact'? What the actual fuck man. I already said I wasn't posting things that I didn't have much original thought to contribute. How is me spamming up the thread rehashing BS crap a reason I'm mafia here? I want an answer because this is just such BS.. If mafia don't interact with me (they don't have to. I'm stupid busy, and everyone has been poking at it early on anyway. So just ignore and then lynch t!ES for game) I can't do a damn thing about it!! Keeping you alive only makes sense if your going to push their lynch through. Which you are currently doing.. Otherwise why would mafia leave a basic 'lock t! NSH' alive in this long? Unless you are just mafia. I don't think that is true but if it is, my goodness man excellent play because you are never getting lynched this game ! | ||
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Ok, you are right.. I mix D4/ D3 My fault there. We agree on Pandain then. Yes I have been m!Koshi for past few cycles really? What's there more to say about Eywa? I did comment on his play and what I thought about it several times?? Did you miss it? I'm not sure where you get I'm super confident either.. I wouldn't be asking for opinions if I was super sure on my reads. I've been wrong literally this entire game. So I'm trying to use others as sounding board to re-evaluate reads.. Eywa I was saying it's very wrong that he came in, pushed Rayn to death, went afk (for wedding), and fell off a damn cliff for rest of game. What has Eywa done since Rayn lynch? Not a darn thing. I'm not scum, I'm doing my damn best to try to show it to you. you're being as dense as me here.. I've said before I don't vote for pressure! You can read my post, what the actual muck does a bolded vote mean anything 20 hr out from deadline? (hint: not a darn thing). If you read through my older games like you said you where tempted to do you 'd know this already. | ||
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