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On July 30 2019 09:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:I read Branch first, I'm not gonna go over the debate that we had about Koshi and the logic behind Smurf's Koshi push. I still believe Branch was being obtuse and not fully thinking through the implications of their reads. Furthermore, as many people have pointed out, this vote was trash: Show nested quote +On July 28 2019 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Cutting it very close to deadline here.
I dislike this Chezinu Lynch sinze it's 8/11 just bad. Voting him anyway because of town And just because Branch acknowledges it does not exonerate him from making it. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 00:35 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 00:12 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2019 00:04 Branch.AUT wrote:
Why does Holyflare think all of this qt paraphrasing makes hydra town? All it is is sentiment towards players and expressing frustrations. If you do not town read them after that QT paraphrasing I dunno what to tell you. If they're mafia with a QT for the hydra I expect there to almost be nothing in there, in which case Jock managed to fabricate 90 posts of conversation between them in a very short space of time and kudos to him if he did. It looks natural and from what I can see, aligns with their thoughts throughout the game in a fluid way. Unless youre scum with them, and this was a planned set-up. This right here is reaching to make connections in the extreme, which is funny because that's exactly what Branch accused me of doing when I tried to walk them through the logic behind his reads. The best thing HF has done this whole game has been to pull those logs from the Hydra. Since I townread the Hydra, Occam's razor says that HF is also town and simply looking to get a clearer picture. And Branch is trying to throw doubt on that. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start. Calling me scum entails coagulation claiming scum with first post and actually being scum. I don't know the man but I'm quite certain hes not that much of a cretin. Yes I do believe he could be. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:53 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 03:41 Alakaslam wrote:On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start. See I am pretty sure Eywa has something to offer Your suspicion of me for a horrendous vote is warranted. As mentioned earlier this stems from me voting very rushed because I was short on time before deadline. If you read my filter you will realize that my entire game has been applying logic to finding scum. And see this is something I've been having a problem with throughout Branch's filter. between his declaration regarding his lack of meta as well the extremely robotic tone (someone actually used this word to describe him and I agree), it feels like Branch is trying super hard to put up a facade of controlled logic and reason. Slam talked a bit about emotion earlier and it honestly would be a fun postgame discussion to get into in the Community thread about the role emotion plays in forum mafia. I personally believe that attempts at "Pure Logic & Reasoning" serve more as a hiding place for scum rather than a bastion of good town thought. Townies do stupid illogical things, too dumb to be scum is a phrase for a reason no matter how much I hate it. Scum is more likely to post in a controlled manner imo. That was a lengthy paragraph about meta on a player who has already reminded us he has none so it's kinda useless to overall scumhunting but in the interest of transparency that's where part of my gut scum read of Branch comes from. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 04:49 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 29 2019 12:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm back home from the weekend. Kinda demoralizing to see both koshi and slam escape the noose. Idk though, the tube NK is making me have some doubts about the hydra.
I'll need to reread some filters tomorrow and reevaluate where I'm at. Gonna take a closer look Branch and Eywa as well as flesh out the hydra/slam/FF/koshi knot. I like your approach to the game. HF seems convinced the Hydra is town, based on the amount of posts that Jock produced from their qt. Koshi and Slam I am not brave enough to take a close look at, but if you arrive at something I am willing to cooperate with you. This was a funny post to me because it sounded odd and I couldn't place it until I realized; it's a copy of a post in my filter: Show nested quote +On July 24 2019 21:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Tubesock, people wanna kill the hydra and I don't buy it, you're one of the few people critically thinking this game and you've scumread them. Spell it out for me like I'm stupid. Part of me can't help but wonder if Branch has "logically deduced" that this is how I like to communicate as mafia and is trying to head off me scumreading him since it probably wasn't hard to deduce I was suspicious of him after our initial interaction. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:14 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 30 2019 05:06 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch who's your top scum read right now?
-J I am going through low activity people at the moment. Don't have a good scumread but these are my thoughts. Im cautious about HF because of the weight he carries in thread. Fecalfeasts opinions seem to line up with mine a lot, but his filter is filled with garbage posts. Who are yours? Again, people have already pointed out how bad this post is but since I'm here I'll throw in my two cents. For someone who has talked about the importance of voting your scumread (which I agree with!) Branch's hesitancy to say anything at all about HF is very strange. When responding to a post asking for reads Branch proceeds to throw out names with no reads. It goes back to the earlier questions I had for him in regards to his opinions of Koshi. He talks about how Koshi looks "guilty as hell" but then when I pushed him on it, he came back to say that he had never called Koshi scum. Branch likes to hide behind the technicality of never calling anyone "scum" (except for the hydra which at this point I think he's backed off of) and merely saying "suspicious". This is all worth remembering because the last bit from Branch I don't like is his big list of reads: Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 05:46 Branch.AUT wrote:
1) NoSmurfHere - Reacted very poorly to a scum accusation. seems town because of qt
2) Holyflare - suspicious activity timings throughout the game. probably town for establishing hydra as town
4) Alakaslam - Have not read thoroughly. dislike amount of posts.
5) Fecalfeast - reads align with mine on previous days. lot of offtopic. doesnt seem to interested in solving game. suspicious
6) Eywa - Posts very little substance. Suspicious
7) Pandain - seems interested in solving the game through reason and logic. town on a half hearted read
11) Koshi - havent read his filter since start of d2. suspicious
12) Meapak_Ziphh - reasonable and logical arguments. town
14) Eversince reasonable and coherent. Very little initiative. town This post takes no responsibility for the reads within it. Does he actually believe any of the suspicious people are scum? Who knows. Hell he even calls HF suspicious and then gives him a townread. This post and his play so far during this day cycle scream attempts at dodging responsibility. I don't have a problem with the questions that he's asked people in a vacuum, however when there is no follow up to the questions and seemingly no coherent push being made based on information gained from asking them, this falls under what I used to call "contributing without contributing" i.e. creating seemingly town content without actually having to make a stand on anything. I didn't really come into this post certain one way or another of Branch's alignment but it was something that was bothering me yesterday before the lynch. Having had some time to sit down and go over things I'm fairly comfortable calling Branch scum. This also reinforces my scumread of Koshi because of Branch's chainsaw defense at the end of D2. TL;DR If you don't want to read all of the post, my biggest and strongest argument for Branch being scum is the incredibly careful way he goes about avoiding making any real scumreads. Not only that but his attempt to lynch the hydra looks very much like a chainsaw defense of Koshi imo.
This is a great post. Why would we assume branch to be town?
But I think the points on Koshi to be stronger and he was so weird with me. How the hell did he know I was being a badass?
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On July 30 2019 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:It's actually incredibly hard to do an honest analysis of someone who has been calling you scum with literally nothing to back up the claims since like D1. I've kinda been ignoring most of what Eywa has said because I don't feel like giving the time of day when he doesn't have any reason aside from his gut (which helped get rayn killed). It's very tempting to OMGUS a case because this dude seems like a real asshole (hate when people talk about their home sites). But I agree with a couple points he's made today: Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:15 Eywa- wrote:You guys post too much... Holy fuck. FecalFeast has to be the lynch today, I mean... His filter is terrible, just keeps pushing random reads off of the main wagons, but doesn't actually push them hard enough to push them through. Then he calls other people scum for pushing mislynches. On July 26 2019 12:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
i still think mason should claim because if mafia shoots mason that's a probable guaranteed cop check unless they hit the RB and or the miller Also, this feels a lot like PR hunting. WHERE DID THAT GUARANTEED COP CHECK GO? Oh... Y'all lynched it. This is correct. Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 03:18 Eywa- wrote:
Branch is scum too, I think it was around page 33 where he was randomly trying to throw a few names into the barrel who weren't currently causing havoc in the thread. Reads like a player who came in and is like, damn, my ISO sucks, let's create some chaos right off the start. This is correct. As long as Eywa is gonna vote people who are scum and not me I'm not gonna scumread them for being a douchebag. I think his reasoning for not voting koshi is stupid because we really need to be lowering scum numbers ASAP but as long as we vote for one of Koshi or Branch I think we should be good. I need to really reread FF now because he's come up several times in other filters.
I wanna read your filter next rest stop and try to find who thought you were mafia and why.
There may be scum in that pile, too many people did but it may shed some light.
You’re making great points rn afaiac
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On July 30 2019 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 09:38 Eywa- wrote:
Soo... Anyone seeing this FF and MZ scum theater unfolding? Jesus christ dude get off my nuts and scumhunt.
Frankly I feel like M_Z is shooting really straight. I’m not even worried about being his alternate as I’m pretty sure he is right.
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On July 30 2019 09:59 NoSmurfHere wrote:
tl;dr:
Koshi
FF
slam/eywa/branch figure yourselves out but right now I’d kill branch
-wherebugsgo
I think it’s just Branch man.
But I do deserve the coin flip rep even this game lol considering as scum I will go to any lengths to win (assuming I have internet) and could totally pull this look off. Have done before in fact.
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On July 30 2019 10:28 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2019 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 30 2019 09:38 Eywa- wrote:
Soo... Anyone seeing this FF and MZ scum theater unfolding? Jesus christ dude get off my nuts and scumhunt. eywa is scum
I don’t think so man.
You’re my biggest question mark of the three I most think are scum (in that I think MZ is on a roll) in that an alternate could be Eversince.
I don’t think you should martyr if town because I am confident Koshi will be lynched today.
Do you think he is town? If so, defend why you think so and thereby defend him.
If not, vote him with us.
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On July 30 2019 10:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
Also was considering making a QT and showing how easily I could fake 10 QT posts because I have like 100 qts with everyone's qt usernames and shit to reference but I am far too lazy
Oh
Jock posted all 90 man.
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On July 30 2019 12:37 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Branch shading me on my Coag replacement reaction of “Game is harder than it should be” had a really convenient timing now that I went back and looked at it again.
I’ve committed a cardinal sin and reread something for only the 2nd or 3rd time this game but that one might have been worth it.
Right at that time was when I had a post to eversince about needing time to understand why slam would martyr in that situation, in the way he did, as well as getting cold feet on FF purely on tone-basis (and secretly, because we were getting 0 traction on FF)
As an alternative to slam/FF I proposed Koshi. Right around that time branch starts flinging poop at us.
Hmmm....
-wherebugsgo
Man alive bugs I owe you an apology.
You’ve been on fire this game and I suspected you for it, slung shit at you for it, and got petulant for it.
I must seem like the fatass playing Warcraft at home to you. Man alive but I do feel marginalized in here when I finally find something. I gotta learn communication skills.
I also realized not everything is implicit and punctuation is important in English, period. It suddenly dawned on me with this weird idea:
It is hard being a man, child.
It is hard being a man child
One is a warning the other is a pathetic statement.
I gotta de-lazy myself with punctuation.
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On July 30 2019 18:41 Pandain wrote:
Slam what did you mean when you said you "catastrophically misread" rayn?
It’s in my filter but,
I transposed Vivax’s reads onto him.
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On July 31 2019 04:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
SWITCHAROO
-J
Why FF vs Koshi?
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On July 31 2019 04:35 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2019 04:33 Holyflare wrote:On July 31 2019 04:30 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 31 2019 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
There's been a fuck tonne of words the past few pages but no compelling sentences on why we should lynch anyone's favourite target over anyone else.
Why? That’s literally been the theme of this game. I’m tired of explaining why we want to kill Koshi. You’re not reading so I see no reason why we need to explain things again. You weren’t reading when I was telling you why I think Koshi was a better kill than Chezinu so you getting worked up now is starting to rub me the wrong way On July 31 2019 03:40 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 31 2019 03:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful? You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone -wherebugsgo Holyflare has been doing the same exact thing with me. You never once called him scum. How come? If you meant this, branch, then I think you aren’t reading properly. I indeed have thought HF was scum at various points in this game and honestly even now his behavior is strange enough that he might be scum here. However he simply is not the best lynch. There are enough reasons to call him town and not enough to call FF/Koshi town that it makes no sense to discuss him now, 1 hour before lynch, when we are not going to lynch him. It bothers me that we have 30 minutes to go to deadline and you are trying to distract from the lynch at hand. Why is it important to discuss, at this very moment, my opinion on HF? Are we killing HF? No? Then why?? And this is coming from someone who called us out on supposed whataboutism earlier in the game. You must be scum here. -wherebugsgo I mean you're mistaken if you think I'm not seeing the case for Koshi. I'm pretty certain I said I don't care which of the two die and I'd vote for either. I'm just seeing a distinct lack of push in any direction other than branch onto shitty eywa lynch which is strange considering how close the lynches are. Not really getting worked up about it so go bark up another tree, my friend. FF is certainly scum, literally the only person who was annoyed by us being townread on the basis of being able to paraphrase QT posts and it lining up with our in-thread opinions. Koshi is certainly also scum. I personally don’t give two shits who dies between the two of them. -wherebugsgo
Ok but why did you bother to switch?
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On July 31 2019 04:36 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2019 04:35 Alakaslam wrote:On July 31 2019 04:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
SWITCHAROO
-J
Why FF vs Koshi? They both deserve to die. We get slightly more information from doing it this way. -J
Well then
I won’t move so town still has options.
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Yep I lost track. He answered, thanks!
Lol playing with a hydra has been hilarious at least twice in the last 15 pages
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If FF is town I Lynch into Eversince.
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On July 31 2019 04:40 Eversince wrote:
..why?
I feel like you’ve been lurking and it would mean we are all wrong and have to rethink.
I wouldn’t be too worried frankly.
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Like imagine it isn’t
Oh by the way. Branch goes first.
But if FF isn’t, who is third? That is my point.
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On July 31 2019 04:42 Branch.AUT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2019 04:30 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 31 2019 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
There's been a fuck tonne of words the past few pages but no compelling sentences on why we should lynch anyone's favourite target over anyone else.
Why? That’s literally been the theme of this game. I’m tired of explaining why we want to kill Koshi. You’re not reading so I see no reason why we need to explain things again. You weren’t reading when I was telling you why I think Koshi was a better kill than Chezinu so you getting worked up now is starting to rub me the wrong way On July 31 2019 03:40 Branch.AUT wrote:On July 31 2019 03:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:On July 31 2019 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can the people on me at least mention what they'll do when i flip town. Please?
Someone determined that it's not mylo right Why do you keep asking this instead of doing something actually useful? You’ve been asking for thread sentiment the whole game (like how you asked how people are reading branch) instead of actually forming your own read or opinions and it’s scummy af It’s also always somehow really meek when at least some of your pushback when the game was less clear, especially when pushing back against people who were clearly going to die (like rayn) had a much different tone -wherebugsgo Holyflare has been doing the same exact thing with me. You never once called him scum. How come? If you meant this, branch, then I think you aren’t reading properly. I indeed have thought HF was scum at various points in this game and honestly even now his behavior is strange enough that he might be scum here. However he simply is not the best lynch. There are enough reasons to call him town and not enough to call FF/Koshi town that it makes no sense to discuss him now, 1 hour before lynch, when we are not going to lynch him. It bothers me that we have 30 minutes to go to deadline and you are trying to distract from the lynch at hand. Why is it important to discuss, at this very moment, my opinion on HF? Are we killing HF? No? Then why?? And this is coming from someone who called us out on supposed whataboutism earlier in the game. You must be scum here. -wherebugsgo You've called me scum at every point in this game, no matter what I did, so I no longer care about your opinion. Green flip, best defense. If the Koshi lynch was as certain as you want it to be, we wouldn't be havin this conversation. Your reasons for voting Koshi are weak as garbage. And the only reason Koshi has so many Votes, is because your Hydra is supposedly confirmed town.
So you think it is Eywa, who and who?
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On July 31 2019 04:43 Koshi wrote:
you people realise that this is the last lynch right? You got that far?
It isn’t though.
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Koshi since you’ll live.
Why was I badass? How could you possibly know?
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On July 31 2019 04:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2019 04:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Koshi since you’ll live.
Why was I badass? How could you possibly know? Slam. Please. Just kill me.
I am voting you
They have FF in the lead.
Since you’ll live, why was I badass? How could you possibly know?
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On July 31 2019 04:46 Koshi wrote:
I have 0 interest in playing another day.
Oh no fefe is town. Who could be mafia. Must be Koshi for sure now.
Hurr durr
Not necessarily.
Koshi
Why was I badass? How could you possibly know?
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