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On August 05 2019 03:53 Eversince wrote: You are proving my point! town stacks on MZ, I was around I don't know what the fuck your talking about. You literally are contributing my late vote style into your scum read on me! Mafia can't sway off MZ so obvious result..
Thank you for confirming that town stacked on MZ 
If it were only two townies on MZ, then the three scum could have voted you.
There are maximum two scum in the MZ voters, because by definition there are only 3 scum, 1 of which was MZ himself. The MZ voters, as I may reiterate, are the exact same as the Eversince voters.
The first two voters on MZ were Eywa and us. Which essentially confirms us as town.
You all did us the favour of confirming branch. Which basically means only Koshi by VCA has the chance of being scum with you or Pandain.
However on paper Koshi looks much better than either of you, and Koshi didn’t waste his vote either.
Which leaves you and Pandain as scum by POE 
-wherebugsgo
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But your point is invalid because you're NOT and that is what I'm saying. I've been high on your lynch list for a while now. I'm trying to explain why it doesn't make sense because YOU'RE NOT DOING IT SO MAFIA WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG HUH?! Fucking christ. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall!
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You have ES high on lynch. Mafia play 'change your reads' card, not expecting you actually will because of reasons you've plastered all over thread, I die and mafia wins. You got gamed. GG. FUCKING SEE IT.
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On August 05 2019 04:05 Eversince wrote: But your point is invalid because you're NOT and that is what I'm saying. I've been high on your lynch list for a while now. I'm trying to explain why it doesn't make sense because YOU'RE NOT DOING IT SO MAFIA WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG HUH?! Fucking christ. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall!
What point?
Please, spell it out.
Surely if you are town and you see that Pandain also wasted his vote, Pandain is confirmed scum to you?
I don’t think you are completely pants on head as town. It’s actually a compliment for me to call you scum here rather than town.
But, you want to keep your vote to do a repeat of yesterday, where your vote didn’t matter. You look like scum, act like scum, and talk like scum. That makes you scum!
-wherebugsgo
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MZ yesterday:
On August 02 2019 02:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh here comes the counter push from Koshi and Eywa. Right on cue when I push Branch. You're getting played Jock.
ES today:
On August 05 2019 03:59 Eversince wrote: I will say though that if you're not mafia then you are probably getting played .
-J
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On August 05 2019 04:09 Eversince wrote: You have ES high on lynch. Mafia play 'change your reads' card, not expecting you actually will because of reasons you've plastered all over thread, I die and mafia wins. You got gamed. GG. FUCKING SEE IT.
Nope LOL
Your play didn’t work because we’re not that retarded. You can WIFOM is but the facts are facts.
But keep talking like we are town, as you have done for the past idk however long. We are not moving our vote from you.
So again, either kill us with your scumbuddy Pandain, or vote Pandain. Those are your only two choices. Talking this out with us is not helping you at all.
-wherebugsgo
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OH NO BUGS WE'RE GETTING PLAYED AGAIN LIKE LAST TIME
-J
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On August 05 2019 04:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2019 04:05 Eversince wrote: But your point is invalid because you're NOT and that is what I'm saying. I've been high on your lynch list for a while now. I'm trying to explain why it doesn't make sense because YOU'RE NOT DOING IT SO MAFIA WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG HUH?! Fucking christ. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall! What point? Please, spell it out. Surely if you are town and you see that Pandain also wasted his vote, Pandain is confirmed scum to you? I don’t think you are completely pants on head as town. It’s actually a compliment for me to call you scum here rather than town. But, you want to keep your vote to do a repeat of yesterday, where your vote didn’t matter. You look like scum, act like scum, and talk like scum. That makes you scum! -wherebugsgo
1) You are so wrong. I already said MULTIPLE times I waffle on Pandain LITERALLY EVERY GAME. I don't hard stance on him anymore or I just tunnel him ALL game, bad for town.
2) Thanks I guess? But since I'm not mafia this game I'm kind of disappointing. Either I really suck, your just tunneling me, or you are scum lynching me.
3) I said I wasn't repeating this. Look at my filter I've explained this twice. There will not be a third time.
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On August 05 2019 04:11 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2019 04:09 Eversince wrote: You have ES high on lynch. Mafia play 'change your reads' card, not expecting you actually will because of reasons you've plastered all over thread, I die and mafia wins. You got gamed. GG. FUCKING SEE IT. Nope LOL Your play didn’t work because we’re not that retarded. You can WIFOM is but the facts are facts. But keep talking like we are town, as you have done for the past idk however long. We are not moving our vote from you. So again, either kill us with your scumbuddy Pandain, or vote Pandain. Those are your only two choices. Talking this out with us is not helping you at all. -wherebugsgo
I beg to differ. But lynch me. So I can re-iterate this post game Mr. 'best mafia player ever'.
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On August 05 2019 04:13 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2019 04:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:On August 05 2019 04:05 Eversince wrote: But your point is invalid because you're NOT and that is what I'm saying. I've been high on your lynch list for a while now. I'm trying to explain why it doesn't make sense because YOU'RE NOT DOING IT SO MAFIA WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG HUH?! Fucking christ. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall! What point? Please, spell it out. Surely if you are town and you see that Pandain also wasted his vote, Pandain is confirmed scum to you? I don’t think you are completely pants on head as town. It’s actually a compliment for me to call you scum here rather than town. But, you want to keep your vote to do a repeat of yesterday, where your vote didn’t matter. You look like scum, act like scum, and talk like scum. That makes you scum! -wherebugsgo 1) You are so wrong. I already said MULTIPLE times I waffle on Pandain LITERALLY EVERY GAME. I don't hard stance on him anymore or I just tunnel him ALL game, bad for town. 2) Thanks I guess? But since I'm not mafia this game I'm kind of disappointing. Either I really suck, your just tunneling me, or you are scum lynching me. 3) I said I wasn't repeating this. Look at my filter I've explained this twice. There will not be a third time.
Right, you still waffle on the guy who literally wasted his vote just like scum did, trying to kill Koshi yesterday. Who the fuck cares who that person is, that action should auto-confirm them as scum to you.
The difference between you and me right now is that you are pretending to be town and I am not. The facts don’t change and because you don’t know how to play properly you can’t move on from the logic and resort to just yelling the same things louder and louder
-wherebugsgo
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You're saying Pandain should be confirm scum to me because he "wasted" vote on MZ? Alternative is "wasting" vote off wagon also confirming him as scum? What is this circle logic?
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Ack, I need to go clean something. Arguing with you is leading in circles so bad we are digging holes in the ground. I'll try to be back around if I can work from home. Or I'll try to post before I leave. Otherwise I lose hotspot if I can't renew in the morning. GG either way. Else I'll see you friends in a little while when I cool off !
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On August 05 2019 04:17 Eversince wrote: You're saying Pandain should be confirm scum to me because he "wasted" vote on MZ? Alternative is "wasting" vote off wagon also confirming him as scum? What is this circle logic?
Oh you haven’t had enough of scum claiming yet? LOL
Yesterday was 4v3. 4 votes to hammer.
Pandain left his vote on Koshi ALL DAY.
He moved to MZ when it was clear MZ was already dead, then afked. 0 impact on lynching MZ.
For the record that equally applies to you.
And it applies to MZ too! Cause he voted branch the whole time. Literally the reason we switched to MZ in the first place.
We could have switched to Pandain instead of MZ and I bet we’d be having this exact same conversation with the names swapped, with Koshi night killed instead of branch.
-wherebugsgo
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I left my vote on koshi because I was afk not because I thought he was scum at that point
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On August 05 2019 04:37 Pandain wrote: I left my vote on koshi because I was afk not because I thought he was scum at that point
And you shared your secondary read of Branch with MZ.
Cool.
Doesn’t change the fact that your vote was wasted
Both you and ES voted in the last 4 hours before deadline when we decided on MZ more than 24 hours before deadline.
But hey, afk during LYLO, apparently if scum were smart enough to not bus they could’ve just won right! Cause you would’ve voted whomever the majority was voting 
I respect your town play a lot, so asking me to townread you here is asking too much of me. I think you’re not as stupid as to really believe that in a situation where you are trying to argue that you are town, and one other player (ES) wasted their vote, you think the best lynch is us instead of auto-scumming ES.
Like ES you’ve fallen into the trap of forgetting that this necessarily implies two scum on MZ which makes 0 sense when they could have just had MZ consolidate on ES to begin with.
So why is it that neither of you have pieced that part of the puzzle together and vote each other yet?
-wherebugsgo
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On August 04 2019 13:45 NoSmurfHere wrote: This is the only game I’ve played with Pandain where I did not really townread him. This is an exception to the other two (?) games I’ve played/watched where essentially everyone else thought he was scum and I defended him. I basically had him at “wait and see” all game and he is still doing nothing, wasted his vote, had weird read progressions. I think that points to him being scum, just never seen his scum play before and can’t be arsed to go read past games ATM.
Eywa voting us is throwing me off. His vote on MZ aligns with his opinion from early game and I do think of all the bus possibilities it’s the most likely. I just saw him as townish based on the vote/unvote pattern.
Koshi you think it’s E&E, why is Pandain town here?
-wherebugsgo
I dont know. Maybe it is Pandain. The vote on you is unsettling. I thought I was his big scumread.
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I am 100 posts behind. I'll catch up later
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On August 05 2019 04:57 Koshi wrote: I am 100 posts behind. I'll catch up later
It’s okay I solved the game.
ES autolocked Eywa and us town.
Pandain autolocked you town. Pandain is voting us and ES positioning to vote us (really really insistent that voting last minute is totally normal in LYLO, even though she was happy to vote to kill you instead of Chezinu like halfway into the day on d2)
Everything points to you and eywa being town here and mafia just fucking up a winnable d4. If ES were town, MZ would have consolidated on her. If Pandain were town, he wouldn’t have flipped his reads, wasted his vote, and he would auto-scum ES right here instead of voting us based on some flimsy night kill BS.
Both of them refusing to vote the other implies they both think that two scum and not one bussed, and they both already eliminated one possibility for scum yet they are still talking as if there are possibilities left.
Occam’s razor baby 
-wherebugsgo
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On August 04 2019 10:51 Eywa- wrote: If you think I'm mafia and killed slam and HF... I mean, I don't know what to say.
I killed everyone who supported me only to leave people in the game who are pushing me.
Sounds reasonable.
I mean, I don't see how scum!eywa benefits from any of the past night kills... I agree on this as well.
I am atm willing to bet 9n Pandain + Everzince.
I dont see how the hydra 8s mafia tbh.
Too many posts I think are townie.
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On August 05 2019 05:03 NoSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2019 04:57 Koshi wrote: I am 100 posts behind. I'll catch up later It’s okay I solved the game. ES autolocked Eywa and us town. Pandain autolocked you town. Pandain is voting us and ES positioning to vote us (really really insistent that voting last minute is totally normal in LYLO, even though she was happy to vote to kill you instead of Chezinu like halfway into the day on d2) Everything points to you and eywa being town here and mafia just fucking up a winnable d4. If ES were town, MZ would have consolidated on her. If Pandain were town, he wouldn’t have flipped his reads, wasted his vote, and he would auto-scum ES right here instead of voting us based on some flimsy night kill BS. Both of them refusing to vote the other implies they both think that two scum and not one bussed, and they both already eliminated one possibility for scum yet they are still talking as if there are possibilities left. Occam’s razor baby  -wherebugsgo This exactly. Eywa. Pls. We need you.
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