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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 14:45 GMT
#368
How about you post some reasoning onto anything you say? You can start with why Pandain is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 14:52 GMT
#375
Well Eywa is mafia most likely too. This is the annoying type of scumplayer (Conversion looks the same usually) who are not considerred scum because they are "too abrasive to be mafia" when in fact nothing they say pretty much makes sense, and just get ignored. Furthermore waayyyyyyy different from last game where she actually tried to play and figure shit out (until we got onto a shitfight).

Pandain my best bet for third scum just for calling Grackaroni mafia (or a lynch) for a claim that doesnt make any sense in his mind from mafia perspective, like basically he wants to lynch a townie and paints it as a "mafia read".

Those are my reads, if i am wrong on something get slam in there, most likely everyone else is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 14:53 GMT
#378
Oh yeah Pandain also made a comment on me that should never make any sense to him if what he has said before in the game has made any sense to him so that's why he is mafia too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 14:55 GMT
#381
Well i need to make dinner and shit. HF will probably lynch all the townie players and lose this shit, i already give him bugs award for his start of D1.

good luck, listen to dead people since i have a feeling HF is gonna lynch me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 15:01 GMT
#385
Don't care. I have reads on all the people in the game except for slam already so i don't care. Do what you do and go lose.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 15:02 GMT
#386
I can say bullshit = bad cases though, i think the case on Kelsier is a bad case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 15:03 GMT
#387
Let it also be said that there is three mafia in Shapelog/Eywa/Pandain/Slam. Final words.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 18:55 GMT
#465
Grack, Trfel and Kelsier. You gyus need to get your shit together. Also please do not vote for eversince. Shes not mafia. Please read the stuff on shapelog. Also please read the stuff eywa said around the time i left. There is no reason she should have a scumread on pandain early on. When asked about it she conveniently left it unanswered and used my post on pandain to jump on me. The reasoninh is plain out retarded. Pretty much nothing she says at that time makes any sense from town pov. Then please read the post i quoted about pandain. There is no reason pandain as town says what he said there because at the time he thinks kelsier is mafia and i am mafia wirh kels, so my post on shape should just be bs. Not any convoluted read as he says. Way to not actually take any stance on a case. I am pretty sure those three are mafia.

I am sorry i couldnt be around more, but i think i played one of my towniest D1's ever. I really tried explaining my reads other than scumreads and diacuss studf with people. I still dont answer hf's stupid questions because the answers are in my filter. At least this game proved to me i am better going back to doibg what i have done past year, aka playing the game for my own amusememt. No use to try talk when people dont even try to listen. Good luck.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 19:07 GMT
#477
Oh right. Eywa saying i am mafia because kelsier is town at the time when there is a real chance kelsier is easily the d1 lynch is almost the most retarded thing i have ever heard in a mafia game. Sounds like a mafia game plan.

Grack; you have a minute. Where do i put my vote? Noone outside the four ppl i mentioned i will vote.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 19:11 GMT
#485
So grack. Who?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 19:15 GMT
#489
On June 26 2019 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn what was the bullshit in the thread that you needed to stop?

You also said you town read kelsier for pretty much activity and playing proactively rather than reactionary but literally 0 of your case highlights ANY of that train of thought. It pretty much shows kelsier sheeping and responding about his jock read?


^

answer

I answered the first one already

Yeah my case doesnt. That doesnt mean thats not what i thought earlier because i already called him possibly town befote that.

Thats all in my fucking filter you [redacted]....

Okay times up my vote stays on shape. Gotta work.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 20:58 GMT
#563
Good job.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 21:00 GMT
#564
I need to revisit Kelsier. Pandain actually looks more townie to me than before. Ironically for his eod and not for stuff after lynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 21:09 GMT
#573
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 21:32 GMT
#595
Kelsier is not my strongest town read. Youre fucking annoying, dont read, and twist words into your own delusional narratives. Like just fuck you i am done talking to you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 21:34 GMT
#597
I am pretty certain Pandain would have bussed based on his earlier comments on slam. He's good enough mafia to know thats correct play.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 25 2019 21:37 GMT
#599
On June 26 2019 06:34 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier is not my strongest town read. Youre fucking annoying, dont read, and twist words into your own delusional narratives. Like just fuck you i am done talking to you.


Rayn I'm pretty sure your town by now. Please stop talking to HF. He is prodding you. I don't know why. Can we be friends yet?

Ofc. You lynched mafia. I have had a town read on you since forever. I told grack to not lynch you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 26 2019 00:01 GMT
#696
On June 26 2019 08:53 Eversince wrote:
Only if I track the right person. So who if not to confirm you?

You shut up about ot rn and rrack whoever you think will send in the night kill. Grack flips a coin between you and HF.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 26 2019 00:03 GMT
#697
Oh well w/e then.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
June 26 2019 04:46 GMT
#718
So i can say almost undoubtedly that the following players are town:
Holyflare
Grackaroni
Trfel
Eversince

Hopefully i dont need to go into why Trfel and Eversince, but i will explain it in case someone demands it. "Ofc they could bus" is not a legit argument because it doesn't make any sense for either of them.

That leaves the following players possible for scum:
Shapelog
pandain
Eywa-
KelsierSC
jockmcplop


Let's start with the fact that it's extremely unlike that there is 2 mafia outside of Shapelog + Kelsier duo. I have yet to check how likely it is that they are mafia together or if it makes sense (i think someone said something along the lines that it's possible). At least one of them is pretty much always mafia in this game because any other 2 player duo from eywa/pandain/jock/(me) can always turn the lynch away from Slam onto a townie.

So basically at least one of Kelsier and Shapelog has to be mafia.

I don't have anything new to say about either of them because they haven't posted since i have laid my reads on them. I am especially waiting for what Kelsier has to say now and i will make my decision on him after he comes back and plays.

I think postwise D1 jock looks the best of the rest. Idk, i am still to check what Trfel said about him but i am not gonna do that before sleep. anyways for now i think he is town, technically i guess it's possible he is mafia. Unlikely still.

I don't really think Pandain is mafia (and don't fucking come now and say "you're now saying you think pandain is more town than jock while you just said the other way around" -- because yes, that's exactly what i am going to say). Here's why: Actually forget the whole fucking thing Pandain can easily be mafia, just not with Kelsier. I completely missed the fact he tried to switch the wagon to Kelsier before trying to switch the wagon to me, while earlier calling me town. Dude actually looks fucking terrible on every front.

Eywa- possibly mafia for what i said earlier. She hasn't explained a single read whole game. I'm just gonna ignore her until some actual explanations come out of her keyboard. And that's DEFINITELY NOT how she played last game ffs....




HF's questions:
A) What bullshit was going on in the thread that made him want to make a town case on Kelsier. <-- he said he said it in his filter but I can't see where

Apparently i was not clear enough when after your post where you origginally ask about it i made a post that literally says "I can say bullshit = bad cases though, i think the case on Kelsier is a bad case.", i am sorry i don't know how i could have been any more clear on that.

B) Why was his later reason for town reading Kelsier based on him being proactive rather than reactive but nothing in the case he made earlier ever alluded to that reasoning? <--- he's already admitted that he didn't write it in his case, ask him why

Because the case on Kelsier was not about Kelsier being reactive. The case was about stuff i talked about in my post and the read from his tone was early on and not even that strong. People questioned - or scumread him for his posts and i went over the posts and explained why the latest part (when keelsier has said X and Y before) doesn't make sense to me as him being mafia. I thought i was was very clear about what i was saying yet you turned it into some weird "rayn is calling Kelsier mafia here". My tone read on him early on doesn't convince anyone 100% so what's the point adding it on there? I was simply just responding to what he was being accused of and telling why it doesn't make sense in my eyes.

C) Why has he said that he needs to revisit Kelsier when Kelsier has not returned since Rayn made the town case on Kelsier, Kelsier did not vote so is afk, rayn scum reads the people pushing Kelsier?

What is this question even? I don't know who is mafia, my mafia reads pushing Kelsier has nothing to do with him being anything at that point. I even told someone, i think ES, that i agree Kelsier had disappeared for certain amount of time and if he doesn't return then i am possibly wrong, because that's how i perceive his scumplay to look like over his townplay. Like, holy fuck, i agree that i can be wrong on something!! Here's what irritates me HF; I have tried my best to read Kelsier during the game and whetever i say about him at any point during the game you call me scum for it. You think that's fun? Why am not allowed to change my opinion on someone (not to even mention in your eyes it's a BETTER opinion)? You still call me mafia for it. I think i have been perfectly reasonable with my posts and opinion on Kelsier and you call me scum for everything i write about him.

D) Why does Pandain look townie for eod pushing away from Slam after everything I've said?

You're right this is a legit question and i retract from my statement because i didn't have full information at the time i wrote the post. I didn't read your post, i just chacked quickly who got lynched and who voted for what when i had a minute at work. If you want to know what my original thought process was please do ask.

As long as these get answered without some hissy fit then you can let him play however he wants.

C) Why

just because
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