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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:29 GMT
#592
Have you just realised that with 3 CONFIRMED blue roles in this game that having a lynch pool of 5 people makes it incredibly hard to be mafia and now you need to open it up?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:31 GMT
#594
On June 24 2019 04:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
Day 1





Announcements


There is a total of three (3) town roles in this game. This number does not include any Unaware Wandering Millers that may or may not be present in this game.

HolyFlare is an Innocent Child! There's no way they could be guilty!




The game has begun!

the voting thread is --HERE-- please remember to vote in that thread or it won't count.

until deadline. (Tuesday, Jun 25 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))

voting is mandatory.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:41 GMT
#602
On June 26 2019 06:28 Pandain wrote:
Dude stop pushing that I only became active when slam was up for lynch.
I was pushing for KSC for a while.


I had to re-read your filter to double check in case I was mistaken and I am absolutely not.

This is a summary of the entirety of your page 2 filter which starts 6 hours ago (narrative while I go through it because cba:

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/548937-minifeast-i?user=Pandain&page=2

6 hours:

grack would not throw away his role if doctor, should be lynched for anti town

don't understand rayn's posts

don't think rayn is scum - hf's case is that he disagrees with rayn's reasoning

summons jock to vote grack


5 hours:


more talking about how grack wasn't under pressure and it's a mafia ploy (even though he said he could be town before)

disagrees about someone scum reading rayn

more grack

more grack

disagrees with rayn points again

4 hours:


agrees there's not a doctor aka more grack stuff

jock town read

think kelsier IS A GREAT VIG SHOT

3 hours:

complains how nobody is voting and anyone could be lynched


2 hours:

rayn goodbye post comment + random number post

talking about rayn living 24 hours

dunno why eversince thinks he's scum

------- INSERT TRFEL VOTE ON SLAM TO MAKE SLAM 3 AND LEAD ------------

hf if you want to lynch random, lynch kelsier - slam can spam later - kelsier always just the same and be lynch bait even if town (weird phrasing - even if town)

grack lynch kelsier

we get nothing out of a slam lynch

there is no world slam is mafia here, mafia would bandwagon (i explained why that shouldn't be true in pandain world)

would rather lynch rayn than slam????????? (but he defends rayn repeatedly etc......)

re-quote post

hf plz lynch rayn









At no point do you individually EVER ask for a kelsier lynch UNTIL slam is in the lead. At no point before slam is up for lynch do you EVER proactively push anyone else. You even say kelsier is a good VIG shot, not even lynch.


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:42 GMT
#604
On June 26 2019 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier is not my strongest town read. Youre fucking annoying, dont read, and twist words into your own delusional narratives. Like just fuck you i am done talking to you.


I have reported this post. Please don't needlessly insult confirmed town people because you have a problem keeping your emotions in check in a game of words. I'm asking you simple questions that warrant simple answers and you can't even do that at any single point in time without a "fuck you" or some other baseless insult. I genuinely, from the bottom of my heart dislike playing with you, even though you're a great guy out of game because of this. I can't play mafia with you because you simply just don't play with me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:45 GMT
#607
On June 26 2019 06:43 Eversince wrote:
Pand's filter does not start 2 hours ago HF.


The only thing that's relevant to pushing something for a lynch at deadline is the posts near-ish to deadline. Anything else before that is baseless posturing. He was absolutely content sitting there 6 hours ago to 2 hours ago (deadline) when the votes were 2/2/2/2 saying Kelsier was a good vigilante shot and not actually pushing any lynch at all while complaining that people weren't voting.

It wasn't until trfel put a vote on slam and made slam a majority that Pandain actually started actively campaigning for someone to lynch (rayn - who he town(???) read - I'm not actually sure if he has town read rayn but he defends rayn a lot).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:48 GMT
#613
I won't let it fall into pieces, I just don't want to be insulted or sworn at for trying to play the game and asking questions (even if they're wrong questions??). I come here to have fun with some friends and figure out the game while doing so. Not to be in some hostile environment because somebody can't take a simple question or two.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:50 GMT
#615
On June 26 2019 06:48 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 06:47 Eversince wrote:
Still on my scum radar though.

I'm town


I believe it. Loosely.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:52 GMT
#618
Pand/Shape/Slam makes sense. Why doesn't Pandain just switch to shape (who has 2 votes) over Rayn (who has one vote)?

I don't think Pandain town read Shape, whereas he did to an extent on Rayn as far as I can see.

Pandain, please answer why you didn't vote Shape?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 21:58 GMT
#625
On June 26 2019 06:28 Pandain wrote:
Dude stop pushing that I only became active when slam was up for lynch.
I was pushing for KSC for a while.


Can you outline where this was the case? All I've found in reference to Kelsier near deadline is that you told Jock that Kelsier would be a good vig shot? Where do you feel like you've pushed Kelsier and have been active doing so in comparison to your vigour at deadline for slam?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 22:23 GMT
#645
On June 26 2019 07:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I also wish hf would stop prodding rayn. I think he's trying to get him to go off the rails like he sometimes does early on.


How can I treat someone I think is mafia seriously if they won't answer my really simple questions? That's literally the game. He would do exactly the same reaction if he was mafia or town, and blow it out of proportion even more so if mafia. I don't think my questions are even inflammatory and he's just taking it that way?? Do you not think my questions are valid?

The only way I can make people lynch rayn is by pointing out bad rayn logic and forcing him to answer it so other people realise he actually is mafia. Which he's cleverly avoiding doing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 22:24 GMT
#647
On June 26 2019 07:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:10 Eversince wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I also wish hf would stop prodding rayn. I think he's trying to get him to go off the rails like he sometimes does early on.


I already knew Rayn could get haywire. I made a post about it already. We'll see if it happens


Here's my version of hf's thought process:

"Shit everyone knows i'm town I can't fake claim or act anti-town so how can I have fun? OH RAYN'S PLAYING"


I would never intentionally make someone feel bad for my entertainment like that, ever. I really just want answers to my questions!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 22:25 GMT
#648
I am the veteran though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 22:25 GMT
#649
Sorry, Veteran.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 22:37 GMT
#657
On June 26 2019 07:28 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I also wish hf would stop prodding rayn. I think he's trying to get him to go off the rails like he sometimes does early on.


How can I treat someone I think is mafia seriously if they won't answer my really simple questions? That's literally the game. He would do exactly the same reaction if he was mafia or town, and blow it out of proportion even more so if mafia. I don't think my questions are even inflammatory and he's just taking it that way?? Do you not think my questions are valid?

The only way I can make people lynch rayn is by pointing out bad rayn logic and forcing him to answer it so other people realise he actually is mafia. Which he's cleverly avoiding doing.


HF give him half of day2 ok? I think you both just need a chance to cool off. Or go just in a lake. That would do too.
Fighting between eachother is useless though. Since I know for a fact your town. Believe Rayn is town.. Just stop for that time please !.


I would absolutely be giving him space if I had the time but I am going to die so can't and he really should just answer my questions. He's stalling because I am going to die and then he doesn't have to answer them when I'm gone.

So, promise me when I am dead you will ask him:

A) What bullshit was going on in the thread that made him want to make a town case on Kelsier. <-- he said he said it in his filter but I can't see where

B) Why was his later reason for town reading Kelsier based on him being proactive rather than reactive but nothing in the case he made earlier ever alluded to that reasoning? <--- he's already admitted that he didn't write it in his case, ask him why

C) Why has he said that he needs to revisit Kelsier when Kelsier has not returned since Rayn made the town case on Kelsier, Kelsier did not vote so is afk, rayn scum reads the people pushing Kelsier?

D) Why does Pandain look townie for eod pushing away from Slam after everything I've said?

As long as these get answered without some hissy fit then you can let him play however he wants.

C) Why
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 22:40 GMT
#660
On June 26 2019 07:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I also wish hf would stop prodding rayn. I think he's trying to get him to go off the rails like he sometimes does early on.


How can I treat someone I think is mafia seriously if they won't answer my really simple questions? That's literally the game. He would do exactly the same reaction if he was mafia or town, and blow it out of proportion even more so if mafia. I don't think my questions are even inflammatory and he's just taking it that way?? Do you not think my questions are valid?

The only way I can make people lynch rayn is by pointing out bad rayn logic and forcing him to answer it so other people realise he actually is mafia. Which he's cleverly avoiding doing.

I don't think your question about what bullshit he was trying to stop was unreasonable.

You could be on to something with why he was so quick to shut down pressure on Kelsier and doesn't want to talk about him doing that.

I don't think you've ever given a conclusion on Shapelog though. You wrote a post saying that Rayn's argument was bad but nothing really about what I said or Shapelog's filter in general.

I could very easily be wrong but I think he has a good chance of being scum.


I can't be bothered, he's posted almost nothing noteworthy but that doesn't make him any alignment. Unless you posted something amazing about Shape it's just a coin toss to me. I'm not going back on my phone to check so better get quoting :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 25 2019 22:41 GMT
#662
On June 26 2019 07:40 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:28 Eversince wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I also wish hf would stop prodding rayn. I think he's trying to get him to go off the rails like he sometimes does early on.


How can I treat someone I think is mafia seriously if they won't answer my really simple questions? That's literally the game. He would do exactly the same reaction if he was mafia or town, and blow it out of proportion even more so if mafia. I don't think my questions are even inflammatory and he's just taking it that way?? Do you not think my questions are valid?

The only way I can make people lynch rayn is by pointing out bad rayn logic and forcing him to answer it so other people realise he actually is mafia. Which he's cleverly avoiding doing.


HF give him half of day2 ok? I think you both just need a chance to cool off. Or go just in a lake. That would do too.
Fighting between eachother is useless though. Since I know for a fact your town. Believe Rayn is town.. Just stop for that time please !.


I would absolutely be giving him space if I had the time but I am going to die so can't and he really should just answer my questions. He's stalling because I am going to die and then he doesn't have to answer them when I'm gone.

So, promise me when I am dead you will ask him:

A) What bullshit was going on in the thread that made him want to make a town case on Kelsier. <-- he said he said it in his filter but I can't see where

B) Why was his later reason for town reading Kelsier based on him being proactive rather than reactive but nothing in the case he made earlier ever alluded to that reasoning? <--- he's already admitted that he didn't write it in his case, ask him why

C) Why has he said that he needs to revisit Kelsier when Kelsier has not returned since Rayn made the town case on Kelsier, Kelsier did not vote so is afk, rayn scum reads the people pushing Kelsier?

D) Why does Pandain look townie for eod pushing away from Slam after everything I've said?

As long as these get answered without some hissy fit then you can let him play however he wants.

C) Why


I'll stick my nose to it. Answer me one question. Last point "C:why": what you mean?


It was just a copy paste mishap. I think it's quite poignant though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 26 2019 00:04 GMT
#699
On June 26 2019 08:53 Eversince wrote:
Only if I track the right person. So who if not to confirm you?


Track rayn or shapelog or pandain. Random between the three of them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 26 2019 08:45 GMT
#852
Just lynch who you think is mafia dudes. Stop this pointless shit. I don't think you can confirm anyone on any wagon at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 26 2019 08:45 GMT
#853
Even the slam one.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 26 2019 08:58 GMT
#859
On June 26 2019 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 17:45 Holyflare wrote:
Just lynch who you think is mafia dudes. Stop this pointless shit. I don't think you can confirm anyone on any wagon at all.

yeah lets not make reads based on what people did


Confirming people for arbitrarily voting slam who would have been warned and was just a goon when mafia need to make a play against 3 confirmed townies and possibility of saves and cop is quite possibly the dumbest thing to do. I would most likely be bussing 100% of the time if my mafia partner posted one post and disappeared.

Pandain has done the most mafia things in the game and has motivation to perk up at deadline if his mafia partner is being lynched compared to being complacent beforehand. He even said he was fine lynching slam if he didn't know who to lynch but then he wanted to kill you because of information instead of the guy he said he was ok killing or convincing people to lynch the guy he was originally voting.

Then he tried to convince his big mafia read grack to vote his town read rayn for more information over a guy he was fine killing.

If he tried to convince me to kill you and you are town what info is he gaining other than the confirmed town killed rayn?
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