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On June 25 2019 02:02 KelsierSC wrote: I suppose if you come to it later and see people disagree with me you can try and attack me for it and say shit like "I in no way saw Jock's post as "trying to bury Grack", and I would love if anyone else commented whether they did" Looks like you are just trying to jump on a bandwagon here. I wanted someone to say this <3 | ||
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On June 25 2019 02:04 Grackaroni wrote: I filtered Shapelog. I had him as a mafia lean. Then I read your filter and liked your push and decided that you believed it so I said in thread that I was upgrading you to town. fair enough. do you understand it now though? | ||
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On June 25 2019 02:09 Jockmcplop wrote: Kelsier I didn't say I was just joking. I said I wanted to remind everyone, including myself, that he promised to post more later. That's very different, and is a much more natural explanation than either i was joking or i was scumreading him in a pile on. Actually if you are mafia it's not. If you are mafia it's definitely possible you are throwing more fuel onto the fire without sticking your neck out. | ||
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On June 25 2019 02:14 Jockmcplop wrote: OK, so just to indulge this for a short time more, please go through the following post and see if you can point out: a) Where I am throwing fuel on a fire b) Where I suggest that grack is scum, town, or anything else or give any kind of read. c) Where I am being opportunistic. Because to me, it looks pretty obvious that what I'm doing here is saying 'Hey everyone, remember when grack said he would have a filter full of content by the end of the day?" I mean really, really obvious. Maybe you are looking at the game differently than i am, but for me saying "Hey everyone, remember when grack said he would have a filter full of content by the end of the day" CAN imply throwing fuel into the fire without actually "taking the blame" of calling someone mafia. what i mean is, if i were to assume you are mafia, you would be on the both sides of the fence. I mean like you didn't actually call him mafia or anything but there sure CAN be an implication of that. That's why being clear is important. Remember that people outside mafia don't know your alignment and even jokes or however you word your posts can be read differently when people don't know your motivation behind your post. I am not saying you are mafia, i don't think you are, because i find it more likely you are telling the truth here rather than lying, but please try to understand that in a mafia game you should choose your words carefully even if you are town because some people might think you are doing things from mafia perspective and that doesn't necessarily make them mafia even if they are wrong. | ||
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On June 25 2019 02:16 Grackaroni wrote: You think he's giving a shallow read of Trfel as in "Trfel said something inaccurate about Eversince's behavior so he's scum mischaracterizing Eversince" to be able to scum read him rather than understanding Trfel's perspective. Personally I liked Trfel's aggressive posts when not much is happening in thread. I think they're not well informed but not too likely to come from mafia. I think what bothers me is that when he talks about Trfel's post on me he seems to view it from the point of view as I do, as in "this is an eager townie reading too far into Grack's post. You don't have enough evidence to make this conclusion yet" and then when Trfel makes a similar post against Eversince it's "this is scum mischaracterizing Eversince's behavior." And also Eversince was Shapelog's scum read to begin with. Holy shit this is true aswell. | ||
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Can you look at the stuff on Shapelog? If you don't agree with it, do you want to go with Kelsier or do something else? | ||
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On June 25 2019 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i am saying though is that i think i have evidence that Shapelog is easily capable of going deeper into why people post what they do when he is town and in this game he isn't showing that towards Trfel. This is what i am saying, no more or less. Grackaroni had a decent point too. | ||
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On June 25 2019 03:13 Holyflare wrote: Oh boy we're in a rayn is mafia game. Buckle down people. Because? | ||
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On June 25 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote: My main problem with rayn is that kelsier looks very bad in all aspects of his posts but rayn specifically went out of his way to defend kelsier while: I disagree with Kelsier looking bad on all aspects. My original town read on him was because of how he started the game. Kelsier has lately been playing quite actively in his town games and i see aspects of it here and he'd probably give way less shits about the game as mafia. That's my read on Kelsier pretty much. In easy words, he is playing more proactively than reactionary. Calling his posts out saying this is what mafia kelsier would do Yeah i can maybe see how you think this. That was not my point though, my point was that mafia!Kelsier could say something like that, not that what Kelsier said makes him mafia. Why would i ever post anything that you are suggesting here as either alignment?!?!? It doesn't even make any sense. Ignoring all contradictory kelsier points I am not ignoring them, i simply saw a "contradiction", if that's what you want to call it, and i outlined why i think the conclusion Kelsier finally ends up with doesn't come from mafia. Making mafia posts from Kelsier into town posts Once again this is not what i did. Maybe this is me thing and not Holyflare. I have absolutely no idea how the content of my post on Kelsier can't be clear -- i mean where i am coming from and why. It's one thing to disagree with me but to claim i did something i absolutely didn't do is another thing. Like idk, does anyone else read my post like HF did??? This happens every single game with him and it would be hilarious if it wasn't so annoying since there's usually people who actually believe in what he writes.... | ||
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Basically i think her scumread on Pandain is full of shit. | ||
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On June 25 2019 22:25 Eversince wrote: How is Kels playing active? he was. you're right he isn't rn. He has promised to look into shapelog and pandain though so i am waiting to see what he does. if he doesn't do anything maybe you're right and i am wrong. | ||
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On June 25 2019 20:54 Pandain wrote: Rayn's reasoning is convoluted enough that's it's hard to understand (and thus make judgments on) his arguments. Where are you referring here and why are you saying this? | ||
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