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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:44 GMT
#876
You're claiming that you want to be recruited by Rome, but do not have a wincon that involves killing Arabs?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:45 GMT
#877
On April 08 2019 03:44 Eywa- wrote:
You're claiming that you want to be recruited by Rome, but do not have a wincon that involves killing Arabs?

I'm calling bs.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:46 GMT
#879
On April 08 2019 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do but i am not trying to fulfill that.

So me calling you out was accurate... Why did you argue it?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:48 GMT
#883
On April 08 2019 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said i dont have that, i said i dont need to kill townies in order to win which is what i thoguht Damdred was originally saying, that he ONLY wins if certain townies aka me die.

I'm thinking (based on the familiarity between you and some other players) you play too much mafia for that to be a legitimate misunderstanding between you and damdred.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:49 GMT
#884
On April 08 2019 03:48 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never said i dont have that, i said i dont need to kill townies in order to win which is what i thoguht Damdred was originally saying, that he ONLY wins if certain townies aka me die.

I'm thinking (based on the familiarity between you and some other players) you play too much mafia for that to be a legitimate misunderstanding between you and damdred.

Again, this is with the assumption that I know the wording in the role PM that you both received based on your claims.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:50 GMT
#885
On April 08 2019 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:46 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do but i am not trying to fulfill that.

So me calling you out was accurate... Why did you argue it?

You called me out on something i NEVER FUCKING SAID. Why are you so terrible at reading?

This rage is fake right?

I am putting the vote in now though.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:53 GMT
#889
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.

Obviously he's reading that he needs to kill Romans and you are Romans... You also have to kill Arabs, so where is your confusion? Is it the use of the word town? Your role PM doesn't say you have to kill mafia right?

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Confusion is fake?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:54 GMT
#892
On April 08 2019 03:53 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.

Obviously he's reading that he needs to kill Romans and you are Romans... You also have to kill Arabs, so where is your confusion? Is it the use of the word town? Your role PM doesn't say you have to kill mafia right?

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Confusion is fake?

Well... OK, your "optional win condition... Jesus Christ, you're not actually arguing that you don't see where he's coming from if you're claiming same role opposite faction...
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:55 GMT
#893
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

Are you picking up what I'm laying down?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:56 GMT
#896
On April 08 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's not cult, but if he recruits certain people they win and i think leave the game which will reduce town numbers even further which is why i dont really feel like playing because it's a retarded role list, considering there are two of those.

Your departure can be arranged.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:56 GMT
#897
On April 08 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

I know but back then i didn't realise it.
Whatever i am not really interested in arguing about this. Do whatever you want, i am going to bed.

But then why do you argue your point if you no longer believe in the point you made originally? O_O
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:58 GMT
#901
On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

Are you picking up what I'm laying down?


No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town.

This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions.

Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 18:59 GMT
#903
On April 08 2019 03:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Eywa I like most of what you've posted over the last couple of pages so I don't want to have to kill you. However I need to know why you think scum can recruit you otherwise it just seems like we should lynch you now to avoid you being recruited.

Well, I don't really see the point of this game having a subset of town that can be recruited by masons, so logically it's either cult or scum...

You know... Just by process of eliminating what doesn't make sense.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:01 GMT
#905
Also, I think we should lynch either Rayn or LS, I am not going to claim what faction I represent. I do hope to be recruited though But in the meanwhile, I think we should all agree to lynch a recruiter.

LS is the only claimed recruiter, so I'm OK with going there first.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:03 GMT
#907
On April 08 2019 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 03:58 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.

For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.

But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.

LS I do t want to ever die.

I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly.


That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you.

Are you picking up what I'm laying down?


No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town.

This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions.

Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position?

Because yourt argument is not correct. I literally never said "if you have alternative win conditions you are not town" which is what your argument boils down to.

Clearly my argument was about your wincon saying you have to kill Arabs IF you have the role you're claiming... The fact that you don't see that is such a misplay that I don't see how it can come from anyone who plays mafia even semi-regularly.

Please accept this as a fair statement because I think this argument has run it's course, is now pointless and anti-town, I don't think I could muster enough votes against you D1 even if I wanted to.

I think LS is the better lynch anyway because he actually seemingly claims recruiter, where as you just seem scummy to me which are differing levels of certainty.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:06 GMT
#910
KelsierSC (1): Vivax
Vivax (1): Mocsta
Eywa- (1): raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (1): Tumblewood

Not voting (5): Damdred, Mig, Meapak_Ziphh, [UoN]Sentinel, LightningStrike

With 3 hours left? Come on guys...
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:07 GMT
#911
On April 08 2019 04:05 Vivax wrote:
I hate games with recruiters, the better you play the more likely it is they just change your alignment and reverse your progress.

Eywa how does it make sense for you to win just by being recruited by scum? I have a hard time believing that a role would work like that.

How does it make sense for there to be two identical factions with identical and opposite win conditions?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:07 GMT
#912
On April 08 2019 04:07 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:05 Vivax wrote:
I hate games with recruiters, the better you play the more likely it is they just change your alignment and reverse your progress.

Eywa how does it make sense for you to win just by being recruited by scum? I have a hard time believing that a role would work like that.

How does it make sense for there to be two identical factions with identical and opposite win conditions?

Ugh... Why am I even engaging scum..
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:10 GMT
#916
On April 08 2019 04:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 04:01 Eywa- wrote:
Also, I think we should lynch either Rayn or LS, I am not going to claim what faction I represent. I do hope to be recruited though But in the meanwhile, I think we should all agree to lynch a recruiter.

LS is the only claimed recruiter, so I'm OK with going there first.

hmmmmmmm

This post I don't like. And I don't like it a lot. afaik LS has claimed he wins with the town.

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 23:29 LightningStrike wrote:
So ya my role is actually kinda shitty but I can deal with it because I only get to recruit Arbic/Hindu mathematicians into a qt.


This role does not seem inherently anti-town, and idk if the whole roman/arab thing is necessarily alignment indicative. Getting invited into a QT doesn't seem like it changes whether you win with town or scum. I'd rather lynch people who are acting scummy.

You're joking right? Everyone is claiming (including myself) that this is an anti-town win condition.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 07 2019 19:11 GMT
#917
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM
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