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On March 05 2019 05:19 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 05:13 Blazinghand wrote:On March 05 2019 05:11 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2019 05:08 Blazinghand wrote:On March 05 2019 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Bh is unacceptable and he has had plenty of time to do something productive he is scum Well, my lack of activity being unacceptable? absolutely. If you think that "BH is inactive when he is scum" is even close to a correct heuristic you must have never played with me, or seen or hosted or observed any game I'm in. Come on, dude, you know that isn't true. Be a man and vote me on policy. Don't make false statements about my meta. I don't give a shit about your meta. You somehow mayor vote palmar when you haven't read at all he didn't play untill page 40 It's a policy vote and you know it. Admit it. Be a man. I looked in the vote thread and saw someone had voted for him for mayor, and Palmar's a decent player, so I voted for him too. I figured it would be productive. I don't even know why i'm arguing, I'm fine dying. I just hate people saying wrong things Why are you complaining about policy votes when your first pick for mayor has been a guy who's exclusively promised a policy vote Why are you misrepresenting Palmar?
At what point in time did Palmar change his opinion
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On March 05 2019 05:23 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel rsoultin and BH need to go
I can get behind the first one
##Unvote
##Vote: Trfel
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On March 05 2019 05:22 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:21 Vivax wrote:
What's hilarious is that I'd bet that if Palmar is elected mayor, he'll lynch BH who supported him.
I'm fine with that. But I want the majority vote on Trfel. I too am fine with that! I'm explicitly ok with being policy lynched here. If that's actually his plan I'm gonna stay on him with my mayor vote, in case we actually find and lynch scum instead of me
So why repeatedly defend yourself rather than find some scum in the next three and a half hours?
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On March 05 2019 05:28 Trfel wrote:
@rsoultin, I disagree, but fair enough, thanks.
I've posted a quality scumread on Fecalfeast and a quality scumread on [UoN]Sentinel. The longer I think about it the more I like those reads. Both reads show original thought. Please don't just write me off as mafia for being suspicious of someone else earlier and then being busy for a while, but actually look at what I've written and what those two have written and think about their alignments. Then come back and let me know what you think. But don't dismiss me before taking a look for yourself.
quality fucking scumread lmao
Okay I'll bite
On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it.
If I don't know my alignment there's a >50% chance I'm town, otherwise this game would be over.
If you're saying I was lying about not reading the PM,
On February 28 2019 10:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I will be here but I probably won't get around to reading my role PM until N1
I was planning to do it before game start.
Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment.
Maybe LS was an easy tunnel because he fucked off after I made my case but I didn't see anyone else use that information to help find scum by association. I'm still not sure if Palmar is scum or not because a huge part of my problem with him is that he wants me dead and I'd rather elect a mayor who would lynch scum, i.e. not me. My other problem with him is that tons of people I think are scummy are voting for him with little to no evidence. But of course if he's town and I'm town scum would do that anyway. Anything else you could accuse me of after my big post (i.e. after I knew I was town) is taking one of two sides on any argument. Unless it's 1v34 by your definition that's thread sentiment.
His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another
I'm assuming you're talking about my case on you in the big post. Your read on SL was correct. In a vacuum it would be a decent post. But you were accusing him of doing things you yourself were guilty of. Combined with other scummy behavior my conclusion was that you are in fact scum.
and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads.
I'm not lamp I don't reply to every message with "vote LS". If people disagree with my scum reads I'll defend them. Unless I think they're right in which case I'll drop the issue. That's all the investment you should expect.
If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken.
See above
It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.
It's definitely a selfish play but I think not reading my PM has been a net positive for my scumhunting abilities. That said, it's a selfish play. So clearly the best way I can convince others I'm town and help town is to find scum. Which I have been doing.
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I'm really curious about that null read on Palmar Trfel. You think I'm scum. Cool. So you vote Palmar "because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most". So how does this work if Palmar is scum and I'm also scum? Why would Palmar not be green in your eyes?
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On March 05 2019 05:49 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm really curious about that null read on Palmar Trfel. You think I'm scum. Cool. So you vote Palmar "because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most". So how does this work if Palmar is scum and I'm also scum? Why would Palmar not be green in your eyes? I don't do association reads. And I'm not going to try and convince you that you are mafia. I stand by what I said, everyone else can read your posts and decide for themselves.
I'm not asking you to stop believing I'm mafia. I'm just questioning the validity of your read on Palmar
And by association your other reads
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Driving to class, will be around 25 minutes from now
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Back, in class atm
My closing statement is: I've done more to help town this game than Palmar
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On March 05 2019 08:54 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:52 Palmar wrote:
ExO_ you still haven't explained your 100% scumread on me? Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:30 ExO_ wrote:On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. @Palmar, let's assume Acro is the leading lynch candidate but your vote could choose somebody else to lynch. Who would you lynch instead of Acro, that isn't Sent? Palmar's entire post history seems to be super focused on this policy lynch of Sent -- that's it. Town Reads HF, Town Reads Acro. He's not wanting to scum hunt on day 1, but go all in on a policy lynch. I don't think I mind having a strong conviction about the policy lynch, but I think I do mind only green reading other people and only pushing your one policy lynch. I think Palmar is scum.
I'm with you on the reasoning but I don't see how this is enough to call him scum
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My explanation of why Trfel is mafia:
1. Everything in my case still stands
2. His more recent case on me felt like a desperate sheep given how many holes were in it
Trfel is scum
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On March 05 2019 09:39 marvellosity wrote:
didn't actually see what Sentinel did
TL;DR
1. I didn't read my role PM and promised not to read it until N1
2. Palmar pressures me and several people vote for me
3. I read my role PM, see I'm VT, make cases on people
4. Palmar doesn't believe me and says he's going to lynch me anyway
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On March 05 2019 09:00 Holyflare wrote:
lol I didn't kill palmar
What's the context of this
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On March 05 2019 09:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 09:46 Mocsta wrote:
marv,
Palmar also wanted wiggles dead.
Im finding this play frmo you weird. I get you probably want to wrestle for thread control, but, you self admittedly havnt even verified if palmars claims on sentinel are true.
I wasnt a fan of conversion, and unlike palmar, dont find replacing out to be a townish!tell.
Its weird to me, you *appear* to be using town!palmar read as a motive to wrestle against HF.
I will have absolutely no thread control I will have very limited time to post at work, I have company tomorrow night. So all I can do is say what I saw in the run up to the lynch. Who needs to verify what Palmar said? The net of it was Sentinel made some dumb play based on his role PM and then he backed down from it like a pussy Anyone who played with Sentinel a bit would know he would continue being a total asshat about it if he was town, I don't need to read exactly how it went down
Wrong
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Back from a trip to the consulate and finishing a 17-page homework assignment.
If anyone wants to know anything about CIR models I'm your guy. Maybe if Europe makes its interest rates positive again they'll even be useful outside of the classroom.
Anyways, catching up about 25 pages worth of thread.
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On March 06 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:43 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2019 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone explain why sentinel is mafia other than using the words he didn't read his role PM? Look at his big post and try explaining to me what happened to his Oats scum lean, or how even what he wrote about it makes the slightest sense. Show nested quote +
1. I lean green on Tictock
2. I lean red on MZ
3. Jock had a bad post
4. Acro had bad posts
5. Chez has bad posts and is running interference
6. Sentinel's town read is prescient of his role. The man in the gif holds up 5 fingers which means it's a 5/5 play
7. Actually Tictock might be red
8. Oats is bad but not red
This is literally at the bottom of his reads list. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum.
That was my summary of iamp's reads, not my own takes. The oats take was my take.
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On March 06 2019 09:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 09:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 06 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 02:43 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2019 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone explain why sentinel is mafia other than using the words he didn't read his role PM? Look at his big post and try explaining to me what happened to his Oats scum lean, or how even what he wrote about it makes the slightest sense.
1. I lean green on Tictock
2. I lean red on MZ
3. Jock had a bad post
4. Acro had bad posts
5. Chez has bad posts and is running interference
6. Sentinel's town read is prescient of his role. The man in the gif holds up 5 fingers which means it's a 5/5 play
7. Actually Tictock might be red
8. Oats is bad but not red
This is literally at the bottom of his reads list. On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. That was my summary of iamp's reads, not my own takes. The oats take was my take. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 09:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 06 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 02:43 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2019 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone explain why sentinel is mafia other than using the words he didn't read his role PM? Look at his big post and try explaining to me what happened to his Oats scum lean, or how even what he wrote about it makes the slightest sense.
1. I lean green on Tictock
2. I lean red on MZ
3. Jock had a bad post
4. Acro had bad posts
5. Chez has bad posts and is running interference
6. Sentinel's town read is prescient of his role. The man in the gif holds up 5 fingers which means it's a 5/5 play
7. Actually Tictock might be red
8. Oats is bad but not red
This is literally at the bottom of his reads list. On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. That was my summary of iamp's reads, not my own takes. The oats take was my take. Ok, but there's more then. You didn't specify your Oats lean in the post, it looks like you missed out a word like scum lean. Then you come out with: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. Your oats summary is in direct contradiction with what you said after it with nothing else changing in between. Why?
Oh I see what you mean. Here's the paragraph
I think if you lean red on everyone it's only slightly better than leaning green on everyone. I'd almost call it a scum play Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean Oats because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.
There's actually two parts missing. "I'd almost call it a scum play [but] Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean [red on] Oats because even with..."
That being said, it's the slightest of scum leans and I never grouped him in my lynch targets like Trfel, LS, etc.
On a related note, skimming LS's posts I am getting a much more town vibe than before, but I only got this vibe long after someone said "LS is looking more town now". I think at the time he was sheeping yet another read. I don't know LS as much as some of you but even though I'm not ready to tunnel him at the moment I do think some of you guys are cutting him too much slack.
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On March 06 2019 09:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 09:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 06 2019 09:32 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 09:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 06 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 02:43 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2019 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone explain why sentinel is mafia other than using the words he didn't read his role PM? Look at his big post and try explaining to me what happened to his Oats scum lean, or how even what he wrote about it makes the slightest sense.
1. I lean green on Tictock
2. I lean red on MZ
3. Jock had a bad post
4. Acro had bad posts
5. Chez has bad posts and is running interference
6. Sentinel's town read is prescient of his role. The man in the gif holds up 5 fingers which means it's a 5/5 play
7. Actually Tictock might be red
8. Oats is bad but not red
This is literally at the bottom of his reads list. On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. That was my summary of iamp's reads, not my own takes. The oats take was my take. On March 06 2019 09:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 06 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 02:43 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2019 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone explain why sentinel is mafia other than using the words he didn't read his role PM? Look at his big post and try explaining to me what happened to his Oats scum lean, or how even what he wrote about it makes the slightest sense.
1. I lean green on Tictock
2. I lean red on MZ
3. Jock had a bad post
4. Acro had bad posts
5. Chez has bad posts and is running interference
6. Sentinel's town read is prescient of his role. The man in the gif holds up 5 fingers which means it's a 5/5 play
7. Actually Tictock might be red
8. Oats is bad but not red
This is literally at the bottom of his reads list. On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. That was my summary of iamp's reads, not my own takes. The oats take was my take. Ok, but there's more then. You didn't specify your Oats lean in the post, it looks like you missed out a word like scum lean. Then you come out with: On March 05 2019 01:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oats hasn't changed much beyond the dart throwing. I still don't see how that makes him scum. Your oats summary is in direct contradiction with what you said after it with nothing else changing in between. Why? Oh I see what you mean. Here's the paragraph
I think if you lean red on everyone it's only slightly better than leaning green on everyone. I'd almost call it a scum play Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean Oats because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game.
There's actually two parts missing. "I'd almost call it a scum play [but] Oats does put pressure on HF. I'd still lean [red on] Oats because even with..." That being said, it's the slightest of scum leans and I never grouped him in my lynch targets like Trfel, LS, etc. On a related note, skimming LS's posts I am getting a much more town vibe than before, but I only got this vibe long after someone said "LS is looking more town now". I think at the time he was sheeping yet another read. I don't know LS as much as some of you but even though I'm not ready to tunnel him at the moment I do think some of you guys are cutting him too much slack. If Oats is a scum lean why do you call him town later when you say nothing has changed?
"I don't see how that makes him scum" isn't a town read. It's me not wanting to scum read him because I don't see enough evidence to do so.
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Why does marv dying make BH scum?
I'd give more of a read read due to + Show Spoiler +On March 05 2019 05:07 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:07 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Conversion seems more like busy townie with 1 scum read who tries to push that scum read as some sort of contribution to the thread rather than active scum lurker
If only because I've been busy with interviews as well ??? That's completely not my take. Vote bh On March 05 2019 05:08 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 05:05 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 05:01 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 05:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 04:54 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit Because BH is not your typical lurker. IMHO it's like foolishness or sandroba lurking. They hate playing scum, so just don't. Even assuming this is true the only way this makes sense is if we have absolutely no other candidates to lynch. BH has barely defended himself and he's barely posted in the thread which means we barely get any information when we learn his role except maybe who sheeped his vote. I'd rather lynch scum than "information". God, you're really trying to dig yourself into this hole, aren't you? :O No, you'd rather pick an easy lynch based off activity rather than trying to figure out who all the scum are. Lol. Hi pot. Here are my scumreads rn LS Damdred Tictock Trfel I'm fine with lynching any of the four and I want whoever I do lynch to say as much as they can before they die so that maybe I can learn something useful Vote bh On March 05 2019 05:25 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 05:23 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel rsoultin and BH need to go I can get behind the first one ##Unvote
##Vote: Trfel Vote bh On March 05 2019 05:48 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:47 Koshi wrote:
Voted iamp for mayor and tfrel for rip.
I only read into 10 people I think but I am happy. Vote bh On March 05 2019 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
My phone is gonna die vote bh On March 06 2019 03:11 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:59 Vivax wrote:
Basically he let BH off the hook way too easily for it to be town iamp.
"if BH doesn't get lynched TL mafia is ded"
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'"Let's vote the guy who's going to kill Palmar" Why are you misrepresenting what happened. I screamed at every player in the game to vote bh. It's clear I'm town and you not being able to see that is extremely confusing as we've played a few games together. My play is basically the opposite of my scum play in this game
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