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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 09 2019 03:00 GMT
#6261
On March 09 2019 11:55 Mocsta wrote:
The other problem i have is

If town has delayed role
Lurker vig
Delayed vig
Backup cop

Scum needs compensation

Im concerned about rels role

Who did he mason n2?

At first i assumed he was a JOAT hence why i immediately wrote off tumbelweed
But now im thinking rels is a scum delay role


I asked Rels about his role function yesterday. I didn't get the idea that it was mod confirmed Town Mason. I remember the point about rsoul outting his role (usually is a scummy thing) but I also don't recall her saying she thought Rels was scum. If he's scum Mason I think he's easily outed next night cycle.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 09 2019 03:01 GMT
#6262
On March 09 2019 11:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 11:57 Mocsta wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:51 Mocsta wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:43 Mocsta wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Day One Final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

EoD1 votes with conrfirmed flips and claims so ya BC wasted his vote on a throwaway on iamp and town was scattered all over the place on the two lynch wagons Day 1. Ace,Pandain,MZ, Chezinu, and Onegu wasted their votes Day 1. might have a scum within those throw away votes since town was so scattered it's a safe play to do that.

Both wagons were town. I don't think just from the votes you can make any inference about where the scum are.

Scum know who HF is. If he's one of them it doesn't really matter who the mayor is between him and Palmar to scum because a townie gets lynched either way. If he's town it doesn't matter either but scum would have to take him at his word that he wants to lynch Palmar. Even if he did follow through on the BH lynch that's also a townie.
good post. Written as matter of fact

Concerning..

Why concerning?
its written factually

I.e. scum mentality recap

Why you think the bolded out of curiosity?
because its written like a guy going on his first date who didnt warm up before hand

My vibe reading that is its like a post game summary

How do you warm up before a date?
sure u want me to send through that gif?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 09 2019 03:05 GMT
#6263
On March 09 2019 12:01 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 11:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:57 Mocsta wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:51 Mocsta wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:43 Mocsta wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Day One Final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

EoD1 votes with conrfirmed flips and claims so ya BC wasted his vote on a throwaway on iamp and town was scattered all over the place on the two lynch wagons Day 1. Ace,Pandain,MZ, Chezinu, and Onegu wasted their votes Day 1. might have a scum within those throw away votes since town was so scattered it's a safe play to do that.

Both wagons were town. I don't think just from the votes you can make any inference about where the scum are.

Scum know who HF is. If he's one of them it doesn't really matter who the mayor is between him and Palmar to scum because a townie gets lynched either way. If he's town it doesn't matter either but scum would have to take him at his word that he wants to lynch Palmar. Even if he did follow through on the BH lynch that's also a townie.
good post. Written as matter of fact

Concerning..

Why concerning?
its written factually

I.e. scum mentality recap

Why you think the bolded out of curiosity?
because its written like a guy going on his first date who didnt warm up before hand

My vibe reading that is its like a post game summary

How do you warm up before a date?
sure u want me to send through that gif?

If you jerk off before a date you're doing it wrong

Do you think I'm scum?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 09 2019 03:21 GMT
#6264
I have no valid thoughts

Need to do a reread
My recollection of 315p is probably not as accurate as i think

Stupid me thinking i coukd be a nk

Will truly stop posting now
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 09 2019 03:44 GMT
#6265
On March 09 2019 11:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Going to watch a movie. I've got to re-evaluate my reads after, but I'll be around to talk for a while.

I lied.

Hitting up a bar now with some friends. You guys will get either the drunk or morning edition of the Dead Zone Show depending on your luck. Remember to send in those letters!
you gotta dance
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 09 2019 04:39 GMT
#6266
On March 09 2019 11:57 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 11:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:51 Mocsta wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:43 Mocsta wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Day One Final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

EoD1 votes with conrfirmed flips and claims so ya BC wasted his vote on a throwaway on iamp and town was scattered all over the place on the two lynch wagons Day 1. Ace,Pandain,MZ, Chezinu, and Onegu wasted their votes Day 1. might have a scum within those throw away votes since town was so scattered it's a safe play to do that.

Both wagons were town. I don't think just from the votes you can make any inference about where the scum are.

Scum know who HF is. If he's one of them it doesn't really matter who the mayor is between him and Palmar to scum because a townie gets lynched either way. If he's town it doesn't matter either but scum would have to take him at his word that he wants to lynch Palmar. Even if he did follow through on the BH lynch that's also a townie.
good post. Written as matter of fact

Concerning..

Why concerning?
its written factually

I.e. scum mentality recap

Why you think the bolded out of curiosity?
because its written like a guy going on his first date who didnt warm up before hand

My vibe reading that is its like a post game summary

I see. Kinda interesting metaphor there XD
Well since the thread had died down for the night I will retire to my bed and when I wake up I will try to look deeper into MZ Cheznu and Onegu!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 04:50 GMT
#6267
On March 09 2019 09:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
rsoultin, the Vanilla Townie has been killed.
Damdred, the Vanilla Townie has been killed.
BloodyC0bbler, the Mafia Roleblocker has been killed.
WaveofShadow, the Vanilla Townie has been killed.
raynpelikoneet, the Vanilla Townie has been killed.

Yeah for the scum death! But there goes my town circle

And lol @ 3 townies hard townreading HF + 1 scum hard pushing HF dying. HF is town and scum are trying to ML him again
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 04:53 GMT
#6268
On March 09 2019 09:13 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 09:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 09:09 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck yeah das me baybeeeee

You claiming the shot on BC?

oh whoops, i meant to post my celebration of killing town in my scum QT, not here
+ Show Spoiler +
yes i killed BC

WP

Just so that is clear: if you are a vig that shot BC, you counterclaim NOW. Any counterclaim later than today will be met with an immediate lynch.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 05:07 GMT
#6269
On March 09 2019 11:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Wake up Rels it's time for the Ace DD

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On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else.

Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you.

So no I am not down for lynching him -_-


If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison.

We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing.

So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game.


How about instead we look into this pool.

Onegu
Why?
1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt.
2) Reads currently given have no substance to them
3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements
4) Basically just has posts with 0 content


Iamperfection

I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it.

On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question.

i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow.

i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment


Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons.
He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players
Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum.



This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here.


Knowing now BC was scum, it's important to point out Ace was the second one to have a problem with this post, after iamperfection. But iamp was mad about BC's reads on him and Onegu. Ace's main point is that BC is scum.

His initial attack on Holyflare seems honest enough on the surface. He attacks him after the D1 lynch, then comes back two days later with more reasons

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The nightkills - 3 dead. All Town. I refuse, literally refuse to think a vigilante shot any of them over Holyfield. Like it seems unfathomable that the targets would end up at Marv, Iamp, or Koshi (lol wut?). Especially with one being Vet and dying (maybe Rb + shot). If there's a third party out there, I think it goes without saying you should start shooting scum or clashing flips from now on

Lastly, I saw something about marv playing cop wrong. I actually think he made himself "obvious town" or whatever you want to call it and should have drawn night protection. Especially since he was a replacement with fresh eyes into the game. Maybe we have no more docs or the kill went through somehow. Either way I think it's worth backtracking him and iamps posts (-2 nightlife means very desperate kill) especially.


including this extrapolation. If it's town Ace it's pretty insightful because I learned something new. It could be scum Ace in which case he's got the benefit of hindsight (and knowing exactly whether or not a vig shot those players). The other thing I notice here is that if I were vig and I didn't know BH was town, I'd probably shoot BH at this point in time (as in, N1). It's a compelling case Ace makes but I'm not sure if it would've been enough to make me shoot Holyflare Night 1.

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On March 07 2019 14:38 Ace wrote:
On March 06 2019 18:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 06 2019 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him.


A) I actually have not asked to be lynched today
B) the only extra information I have is that I'm town, and presumably people fall into two categories:

1) people who think I am town and so have just as much information as I do
2) people who think I am scum, and i'm not sure i'd convince such people that I have "more information" than them just by asserting I am town


I just caught this, and I feel like this is a needle in townish direction, especially since I read it after the post I made quoting this from HF. Could be scum BH but way more probable a Townie makes this most post. Fuck, I feel like most of my posts are anti-HF and I'm tunneling too hard and looking for confirmation bias :/

*sees HF reply to this post*

So much WIFOM spam, Town hero fallacy, and guilt tripping. Nah fuck that. Keep the lynch train going. Just too many things that push HF into obvious scum.

I had the opposite take on that BH post.

Suppose for a minute Ace is scum. I don't think the bolded is enough of an out in case he gets Holyflare lynched and has to justify his actions somehow. At this point I'm certain they're not scum together, but just off of the Ace-HF dynamic alone there doesn't seem to be anything that would disqualify scum Ace coming into the thread to tunnel town HF. It's entirely dependent either on how you view Holyflare (him scum -> Ace town) or potentially by taking into account Ace's other posts.

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On March 06 2019 18:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On March 06 2019 18:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 06 2019 18:37 Acrofales wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:31 Holyflare wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:29 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 02 2019 10:27 Holyflare wrote:
On February 18 2019 06:38 calgar wrote:
+


I feel like this guy wanted in and was abandoned.


He had to drop out.

Trust me, if I abandoned somebody it would be Koshi.


Well at least he's confirmed town now

This?!

Thanks for pointing it out. I don't understand the jump unless you already know koshi is town. I thought it was a joke being returned at Kita. But you were serious? TMI shining through.

Add it to the many small reasons you a re mafia and we really need to kill you.


I think he's town and just doing some little anti-town things.
Seems like the kind of guy who has to be the centre of attention and that would fit.


Please for the love of god explain to me how lying multiple times is only a little anti town?


Legit LOL. I know for a fact BC nearly slammed his skull into the computer. Even if he's scum writing this he's like WTF?

Prescient

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On March 09 2019 00:57 Ace wrote:
There are follow ups to that plan. I've explained it - the Mayor vote was just a way for me to tie any of the candidates to a strong stance and on whom to lynch. Whatever action they took or wouldn't take after making that stance clear determined my approach to them.

Once I found HFs reasons for killing Palmar ridiculous he was Scum for me. Day 2, even when forgetting all of Day 1 also read Scum for me. Middle of Day 2, let's say 8 hours or so before EoD HFs wagon is getting derailed. It's not even just the moronic votes for BH either. You have people making cases as reasons to vote for anyone but HF lol. While it seems easy to say Blazinghand was more probable to flip Town than Scum, I can somewhat see people thinking he's a good lynch if they are to totally lost on to what's going on. However, some of that lynch BH stuff came from people active in the thread. Which shows that they are reading the thread but not for comprehension . And you don't need to check the voting times to see it either. But killing HF is step 1.


I'm actually curious about this as someone who was totally lost during those few days. And the quoted post actually acknowledges it but I don't think it's possible to get an answer that isn't clouded by hindsight. Why exactly was BH more probable to flip town?

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On March 09 2019 04:45 Ace wrote:
Well I can't do what I want correctly and may not be around before EoN so I'll try and get everything out now 😋.

First just some general thoughts. If we do not see a Scum death tonight and the 3KP holds up, we are starting Day 3 with at most 26 alive. Looking at it that way my previous post about KP is easily incorrect 😁. They really do probably need that much KP or 3rd party to wittle down 19/20 remaining people (doubt there are more than 6 scum in this game). That's in addition to town KP.

Anyone who is saying they think Holyflare is scum but won't lynch him because it's going to be too difficult and should be saved for LYLO is pretty much not worth keeping around. Cops and vigis should get their utmost attention. For whatever reasons that Holyflare will be alive Day 3, this support block needs to be eradicated. At this point I literally do not care that HF can possibly flip Town - he is detrimental to our win condition. Of course I find him funny so I would like to keep him around but I also want to win.


Consistency

Show nested quote +

Additionally for cops, it's about to be Day 3 which means if you live you got off 2 investigations. If no Scum are dead going into the Day I think you should consider revealing results. Especially true if you've found scum. If you can clear Town that's also just as good. Some ppl would say hold your investigation unless your check is being lynched and you can't save them through discussion. There's also the belief of waiting till near deadline or late into the next night to reveal stuff. Whatever path you want to take do not let a known innocent die, a known scum escape the noose, or die without revealing your stuff. We've already lost 6 people as of this post and based on the discussion going on I'd only trust maybe 3 people to figure shit out.

Now as for what I'm going to do. Check it out:

Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, AMG, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood

I've already said 2 of these people are scum. This is the BH wagon. Now we obviously know some townies are lazy or were duped into thinking this was even a good idea. I doubt anyone seriously reading this game would think BH was ever a real suspect. Myself and others echoed this during Day 2. On Day 1 I prodded BH to stay in the game not only because I have good memories of him in past games and iirc modding, but I know scum would just pile on the easy mislynch and misguided townies would follow.
I would expect BC to pick up on this because he's a very good player and of course he did. Doesn't mean he isn't scum but someone caring about the nature of the lynch is probably Town. Of course I've currently got a Town read on Vivax too. Fuck me if either of them are Scum 🤦🏼‍♂️.


See above

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Oh shit I was rambling whoops. Back to that BH wagon. I'd cross reference it for the HF vote wagon but I think that should be the last thing to do. Instead I'm going to check the timing of their vote, look at where they showed reasoning for the vote in the thread and see what was going on in the thread at the time. For example that one scummer that showed up, said he read 2 of BHs posts, would be gone, and just voted and really did lay low. Some will say that's just bad Town play but I dont think all but the worst players couldn't be bothered to read more than two posts from someone they suspect.

So that's the way I'm going to go about this. Deadline is in about 4 hours so hopefully I'll be free to get this done. If there is anything you can take from this post if you can't read: vote Ace for Mayor 😎


It's a good case. I can imagine a scum Ace making the case but I don't see any prevailing evidence over town Ace making it. But really the thing that pushes Ace into a green lean for me is that first post where he called out BC.

So to answer your question Rels, I don't see anything wrong with Ace, or any reason I would intentionally avoid him.

WP

From what I remember I disagree with him attacking BC making him town. The scumread went nowhere and changed into a townread later, during D2 maybe ? He's the first person I want to filter tonight so I'll check the timing
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 05:10 GMT
#6270
On March 09 2019 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:
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Day One Final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

EoD1 votes with conrfirmed flips and claims so ya BC wasted his vote on a throwaway on iamp and town was scattered all over the place on the two lynch wagons Day 1. Ace,Pandain,MZ, Chezinu, and Onegu wasted their votes Day 1. might have a scum within those throw away votes since town was so scattered it's a safe play to do that.

the D1 lynch vote is useless since it was TvT. The mayor vote might be mor einteresting, I owuld imagine scum would very much like HF mayor lynching Palmar and being a target when Palmar flips town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 05:14 GMT
#6271
On March 09 2019 11:52 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 11:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Day One Final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

EoD1 votes with conrfirmed flips and claims so ya BC wasted his vote on a throwaway on iamp and town was scattered all over the place on the two lynch wagons Day 1. Ace,Pandain,MZ, Chezinu, and Onegu wasted their votes Day 1. might have a scum within those throw away votes since town was so scattered it's a safe play to do that.

Both wagons were town. I don't think just from the votes you can make any inference about where the scum are.

Scum know who HF is. If he's one of them it doesn't really matter who the mayor is between him and Palmar to scum because a townie gets lynched either way. If he's town it doesn't matter either but scum would have to take him at his word that he wants to lynch Palmar. Even if he did follow through on the BH lynch that's also a townie.

Throwaway votes is usually scum indicating though in a TvT wagon though but I think scum is also within those 2 wagons since it's easy to blend in when it's TvT. Ya fair play about HF I wish we had a cop check on him >.<



I'm thinking a cop has investigated HF by now and hasn't gotten a scum result so feels no need to claim.

What kind of a reasonning is this? We had 2 cop roles flipped already. Is this the only reason you're not pushing HF anymore?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 05:19 GMT
#6272
On March 09 2019 11:55 Mocsta wrote:
The other problem i have is

If town has delayed role
Lurker vig
Delayed vig
Backup cop

Scum needs compensation

Im concerned about rels role

Who did he mason n2?

At first i assumed he was a JOAT hence why i immediately wrote off tumbelweed
But now im thinking rels is a scum delay role

so you think I have a role where I can invite someone to a private QT, then they die one day later ? 2 things:
1 - that's effectively giving scum an additional KP, seems very OP
2 - most importantly, it is supposed to be a normal game. We have some delayed vig and lurker vig, but mason/vig would be very outside of normal

And I masoned rayn N2
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 09 2019 05:19 GMT
#6273
Great job vig but you missed someone important too.

##Shoot Holyflare
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 05:21 GMT
#6274
On March 09 2019 12:00 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 11:55 Mocsta wrote:
The other problem i have is

If town has delayed role
Lurker vig
Delayed vig
Backup cop

Scum needs compensation

Im concerned about rels role

Who did he mason n2?

At first i assumed he was a JOAT hence why i immediately wrote off tumbelweed
But now im thinking rels is a scum delay role


I asked Rels about his role function yesterday. I didn't get the idea that it was mod confirmed Town Mason. I remember the point about rsoul outting his role (usually is a scummy thing) but I also don't recall her saying she thought Rels was scum. If he's scum Mason I think he's easily outed next night cycle.

she definitely outted me because she thought I was scum, then reconsidered when she saw I was upset at her for doing it. I was a hard null in her last listpost
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 05:23 GMT
#6275
On March 09 2019 14:19 Pandain wrote:
Great job vig but you missed someone important too.

##Shoot Holyflare

LOL
we'll see if it's as effective as VIvax' nuke p:
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 09 2019 06:01 GMT
#6276
Announcement

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Holyflare the Vanilla Townie has been killed.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 09 2019 06:03 GMT
#6277
ggs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 09 2019 06:22 GMT
#6278
Wtf
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 09 2019 06:23 GMT
#6279
On March 09 2019 14:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 11:52 Ace wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Day One Final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

EoD1 votes with conrfirmed flips and claims so ya BC wasted his vote on a throwaway on iamp and town was scattered all over the place on the two lynch wagons Day 1. Ace,Pandain,MZ, Chezinu, and Onegu wasted their votes Day 1. might have a scum within those throw away votes since town was so scattered it's a safe play to do that.

Both wagons were town. I don't think just from the votes you can make any inference about where the scum are.

Scum know who HF is. If he's one of them it doesn't really matter who the mayor is between him and Palmar to scum because a townie gets lynched either way. If he's town it doesn't matter either but scum would have to take him at his word that he wants to lynch Palmar. Even if he did follow through on the BH lynch that's also a townie.

Throwaway votes is usually scum indicating though in a TvT wagon though but I think scum is also within those 2 wagons since it's easy to blend in when it's TvT. Ya fair play about HF I wish we had a cop check on him >.<



I'm thinking a cop has investigated HF by now and hasn't gotten a scum result so feels no need to claim.

What kind of a reasonning is this? We had 2 cop roles flipped already. Is this the only reason you're not pushing HF anymore?


That and BC flip but that means shit now
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 09 2019 06:23 GMT
#6280
Pandain day vigged him
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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